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Muy famoso Roy Keane en Argentina. Le decían el guerrero irlandes de nickname. Al "canchero" ( sage-wiseguy) de Sebastián Verón, lo puso en caja un par de veces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
There are a lot of quotes from El Diego on Roy, whe was a big fan of him, specially in that game Diego watched from the stands, when refs crooked Eire one more time, they dissalowed a valid goal from Real Sociedad's Aldo in Sevilla
there are a few anecdotes from Roy one with the gringo Gaby Heinze very funny a few with argentinian-uruguayan Forlán,
Roy was also nicknamed capitan or caudillo, when he played, o simple as Roy.
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Kudos to Roy Keane. Actually he is admired in Argentina we wanted him to play for us, Diego also was a big admirer of him at Sevilla, he asked Bilardo to get him to play alongside him and Simeone and Suker
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Now there are some riots here because Los Pumas (mostly people from the richest upper class people in Argentina) didnt play a tribute for Diego and the all blacks did it
Actually Roy Keane is beloved in Argentina because:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
1)because he is irish
2)because he gets in the mould of a "working-class" hero
3)because he has flaws but he is authentic, a rebel for the establishment
4)because he was a leader on and off the pitch
5) because he got his revenge from the guy who injured him gruesomely
I think Roy was the better footballer but Javier Mascherano is one of the few footballers i can think of with the more destructive elements of Roy's gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
Yes Javier had all the assets and attributes of Roy's as a holding mid, but Roy had that thing going forward, to dribble past rivals, and a good scoring record that Javier didnt have.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Roy was world class. Javier was more of a "caudillo", the little chief, but a very solid defensive midfielder and a great leader.
the most famous irish players in Southamerica are:
Roy Keane
Liam Brady
Robbie Keane
Paul Mcgrath
Frank Stapleton
Damian Duff
question for all true irish football fans that intrigues me
Is there any feud between Liam Brady and Roy Keane?
Because Liam has always been very critical about Roy, very harsh on him everytime I read about it
I think they fell out over whether Frank Stapleton or Robbie Keane is more revered in South America.
No, it was Cillian Sheridan or Eva Perón they couldn't agree on.
Keane never forgave Brady for his constant overlooking of the multi-quote function.
Brady clearly doesn't like Keane and has criticised him on RTÉ at every opportunity.
I've never heard Keane even mention Brady but can't imagine he cares what he thinks of him
Liam Brady was the better player for what its worth ~ ~ at this stage and did go ( had the courage to go ) to Italy and do well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Bielsa, you've been warned about using the term "Eire", edit that post
sorry but as I said before was the name given in latin america by the panini albums in 88, 90. Of course we knew Ireland as the name of the country itself.
back to topic
the only coinvidence is that both midfielders with great mentality.
Liam was a classic #10, an artist of the ball, played further on the pitch in the calcio than with Ireland, Christian Eriksen reminds me a bit of him, with the right peg instead of left peg. Amazing free kicks by Brady, a joy of a footballer.
Ireland got to the euros because of Jack but Liam was his big asset to qualify, alongside Lawrenson, Tony Galvin and Stapleton, those four were great for Jack from 86-90.
Roy was more of a box to box midifielder, a modern player, who could defend and attack, Diego liked him as a `player talked about him in Sevilla, plus Roy scored over the years some very important goals for club and country
good, don't make that mistake again.
I seem to remember there being a comment of the year section on this forum in the past? I think we should bring it back just for this!Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
What’s wrong with using Eire? it is the actually name of the country (according to the constitution), I’d argue that’s as valid as whatever title the FAI registered with FIFA to appease the IFA or whatever the history was...Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
It was the term often used by British media and politicians for the Republic after partition to describe the 26 counties.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Ireland was the island and Éire was the 26 counties.
I actually like it personally, especially as we now have an all-island 32 county team.
But I guess for some it has historic, imperialist connotations. Which may seem strange as it is as Gaeilge.
My Father who is an ardent Irish speaker hates it being called Éire in this context, especially when said in an English accent ��
The name of the country is Ireland, or in the Irish language Éire. You don't refer to Norge or Deutschland in everyday talk; why use Éire? Also you then get phrases like "in Éire" or "to Éire" which don't make grammatical sense.
I always felt it (and "Southern Ireland" or "the Republic") were the Brits trying to avoid just calling the place "Ireland" because that might be seen to legitimise a 32-county state.
people still say Italia 90.
it says Eire on the jersey