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What sort of example does it set though? Should a player expect to be called into a competitive squad if he's picking and choosing when to show up for friendlies?
I suppose one thing it can prove would be a commitment and willingness to ensure the team is properly prepared for competitive fixtures.
For someone like Robbie, he seems to love playing for us, no matter what the status of the fixture happens to be. It probably gives him an immense sense of pride to represent his country.
A perfectionism turned out-of-control-pathological, is nothing to admire.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
It's ironic that his forced departure from Man U was almost a carbon copy of Saipan, ie, story according to Ferguson.
How's Seamus Coleman doing these days?
Coleman's cutting the mustard.
It sets a good example ie that if you reach a high standard that you have more say in when you play.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
By being in a top side he is playing more competitive games at a high level so will need more rest.
Seems sensible to me help ensure your best players remain injury free, pointless over playing them just
show commitment. Keeping yourself fit for top games is showing commitment.
Robbie had the extra incentive of chasing a caps record, plus our strikers often see little game play.
Perhaps. He's a complex individual and maybe the unbowing single-mindedness of his ambitions and endeavours proved his ultimate downfall as a player. I did note the similarities between the two incidents and, in hindsight, am willing to concede it certainly does Roy's character no favours.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
But don't we all love a flawed genius?
No?...
Meh.
Good question! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
He was spotted in the crowd at Killybegs' Donegal county final game against Glenswilly over the weekend: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/s...025507350.html
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ULg...534151cd62cf3c
Quare news round them parts!
Sounds a lot like spin, that; a mere excuse for indifference. If a team's leaders and elder members can't be bothered to do the nitty-gritty without having to fear the loss of their place, what motive is that for the younger players?Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Not necessarily. Compare Wigan's workload this season to that of a Premier League club. What would you make of a fit James McClean picking and choosing when to show up for us and then taking to Twitter to criticise his later omission from a competitive squad? By my reckoning, he'd have gotten his just desserts. (Not that I'm suggesting James would ever do this.)Quote:
By being in a top side he is playing more competitive games at a high level so will need more rest.
Well, he's got that now. Yet, he still plays...Quote:
Robbie had the extra incentive of chasing a caps record
But the teams leaders have done the nitty gritty, if necessary you can show them videos of Roy playing in friendlies whenQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
he was younger and fitter.
The motive for younger players is to follow in his foot steps. I really do not see the big deal here.
McClean is playing at a lower level, easier games, he needs the experience of playing against international class players
Roy does not, he does it every week.
Older players tend to have more commitments too, you could be more forgiving of Stephen Ireland in that respect,
I think he did say something like it was easier for him to play now his children had grown up IIRC?
Yes Robbie has the cap record, but he will want to keep it, so there is still an incentive for him to keep playing.
So, you think a regular senior player would have a right to feel aggrieved if he was omitted from a competitive selection after turning down prior call-ups for friendly fixtures because he simply wasn't bothered?
Depends on a number of factors, if he was irreplaceable (ie did a great job for us) definitely not, if he was sh1te, then best not call him up anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
The only thing that really matter to me is if they help us get results in competitive matches.
So basically I think he would have a right to feel aggrieved if he was doing the business in competitive matches
I would be very annoyed too, in fact I would want the manager sacked.
Who cares? I'm all a-quiver waiting for the next exciting post about... whatever the last barrage have been about.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Gave away a penalty apparently
"Benteke, on the other hand, had been guilty of wastefulness in a lively opening first period.
Villa's top scorer, returning to the starting line-up after a hip injury, won the early penalty after being tripped in the penalty box by Seamus Coleman. The 22-year-old stepped up confidently, but Howard dived superbly to his right to tip the ball over the bar with his left hand. "
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
Here's the piece on Coleman
Another penalty?Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Well another refereeing error to be precise, the refs seem to have got it in for Coleman at the moment, dunno why.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Clearly a dive.
The ref must have watched previous games where he did pull or push like me and then not objectively seen the actual offence and just made an assumption based on previous.
Today's ref must have read Paul's post.
Coleman very lucky not to be penalised for nudging down an opponent in the box. Similar to the others, he got too close from behind and on this occasion the opponent (Vertonghen?) slowed down, Coleman ran into the back of him and pushed him down. Not a heavy contact but a definite foul for me. Lucky boy.
Only saw the first half and McCarthy looked ordinary enough, again.
Coleman should have had a penalty himself after being hacked down onto his knees from behind in the box before swiftly regaining his footing to drag a deflected shot wide of the goal. The Spurs player (can't recall who it was now) made absolutely no contact whatsoever with the ball. Coleman's honesty of effort, or the fact he got up again so quickly to get a shot in rather than make the most of it, appears to have worked against his favour.
Unfortunately for Coleman players aren't as honest as he is.they don't have that gaa background stop that soccer sh1te playacting attitude.
I do feel unless he changes he will cost us one yet. Hopefully it won't be too important of a game.
Everything I've seen so far of him has been pretty accurate.