If Stoke sign him I wonder will Glenn Whelans place be under threat
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If Stoke sign him I wonder will Glenn Whelans place be under threat
Wonder if Avram's bid has anything to do with Scottie Parker's future plans.
Deal almost done - £2.5 million with Lawrence and Kitson moving to Portsmouth as part of the deal: http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...348782,00.html
If I was Lawrence I would'nt go. Is it the money or some other pressure that clubs exert to get players to take a transfer that they probably should'nt.
At least he'd be guaranteed a game and as long as he puts in the performances, Portsmouth would probably have to listen to offers for him in January anyway.
Well as he is under contract (presumably) I doubt he has little choice in the matter.
However if he was not happy to go I doubt Portsmouth would want to take him.
Also presumably it guarantees he gets to play, which what most players want to do.
They couldn't sell him in January, you can only be registered to two clubs a seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Really? I would have thought that restricting someone employment like that would be illegal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
I can't see the point anyway, why limit how many clubs you can play for in a season?
Colbert, was he ever registered though? He hasn't been in any of Stoke's squads as far as I know.
It doesn't matter if you play or not, players may only be registered to two clubs within the same one year period from July 1 to June 30. This is why the Robinho saga is so interesting.
Yes but what I'm asking is if Lawrence was even registered. I mean if he's not been named in a squad, and is presumably not named in the 25, then I think he's available to move on again in January should that situation arise.
I don't see it happening so it's all theoretical, but as far as I understand he would be able to move on.
Players can be registered to three clubs; they may only play for two. Lawrence hasn't represented Stoke this season, so he'd be free to play for two more clubs.
Thanks Charlie, I stand corrected.
Colin Healy and Gareth Farrelly were prevented from lining out for Cork City a few years ago due to this rule and both had their appeals rejected at the time. The rule (FIFA Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players, Chapter III: Registration of Players, article 5.3) stated:Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Players may be registered for a maximum of three clubs during the period from 1 July until 30 June of the following year. During this period, the player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs.
Healy had played for Livingston between March and August of 2006 before moving to Barnsley. He then moved to Cork City in February of 2007 but was restricted from actually playing for the club until July of 2007. Farrely had been with Bohemians, Leicester (although I don't think he ever played for them) and Blackpool within a similarly short period of time before signing for Cork around the same time as Healy.
There are further details here, although FIFA amended the rule after lobbying from the FAI in 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F.I.F.A._2
The rule now contains the following addition:
As an exception to this rule, a player moving between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping seasons (i.e. start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring) may be eligible to play in official matches for a third club during the relevant season, provided he has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs. Equally, the provisions relating to the registration periods (article 6) as well as to the minimum length of a contract (article 18 paragraph 2) must be respected.
What all this means for Lawrence is, I think, that he'd be OK to move on again in January and play for a third club just so long as he hasn't appeared for Stoke before making a move now. And he hasn't, so I think he'd be fine. If Lawrence had appeared for Stoke this season, however, and then went on to play for Portsmouth, the aforementioned exception would not apply to him, unless, of course, the third club he moved to in January operated within a league beginning in either Winter or Spring. I think I have that right...
Actually, that article appears to suggest that it was Healy's loan-move to Bradford City whilst he was at Barnsley that ruled him out of playing for Cork. Is that correct?
The Livingstone part is irrelevant - he left them before the start of the season. So he had played with Barnsley, Bradford and was therefore unable to play when he joined Cork City.
Wilson relishing Stoke challenge: http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...352656,00.html
The downside is of the transfer is that it may well mean that Whelan gets lesser opportunities in centre midfield for Stoke. Unless perhaps Wilson is played at centre half for Stoke.
he has a weird accent its almost dublin with a slight northern twang.
Haven't they re-purchased Salif Diao as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
It looks like Stoke, having been promoted and stayed up for 2 (or 3?) seasons, now think that they can start reinvesting their windfall rather than saving for a rainy day back in the Championship. I'm not sure of their financial situation but that'd make sense.
He's started ahead of Glen in a 4-4-2 for Stoke. Nothing of note yet. Walters playing up front too alongside Kenwyne Jones.
Stephen Ireland completes a triumvarate of Irish transfer window purchases involved tonight. However Reo Coker has been preferred to him. Dunney and Delap starting too.
Xavi would have been proud of that pass to Jones from deep in midfield, and Keano would have buried it. More of the same hopefully.
BBC matchtracker:
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2012: New Stoke signing Marc Wilson cuts open the Villa defence like a surgeon's knife with a superb through ball for Kenwyne Jones, but the former Sunderland striker scuffs his shot as Friedel's right arm averts the danger. Encouraging for Stoke, Jones is looking a serious handful.
The most impressive so far was Delap beating his man down the wing.
HE is only meant to take throw ins isn't he? :P
Great that he's being played in his preferred position but not ideal that it's at the expense of Whelan. Really hope he has what it takes to make the step up to international level there.
Wilson subbed on 65 for other newcomer Jermaine Pennant. That's Stoke second substution.
Id say they could be described as tactical, I can't say I noticed much of Wilson either good or bad
the game seems to bypass the central midfield.
Glenn's brother hits the late late winner.
Is that the Stoke manager doing a lap of honour?
How did the ref buy that dive by Pennant?
My first instinct was that it was a foul too.
It was dive worthy of Bulgaria's finest.
Wilson was strong in the first half, went a bit anonymous in the second. Don't think pennant made much of a difference though to be honest. I think on a positive, Wilson was far more offensive then expected, so it's not insane to think whelan might take whitehead's position. Wilson though looks far more interesing than Green/Andrews. I know Trap wont make changes before the russia/slovakia games, but i expect to see him introduced for Norway. Better be!!
Wilson did put in a great defense splitting pass to put Kenwin Jones through in the first half?
However I could not be sure was him at the time due to the double double dutch commentary on the blury stream.
I should mention, due my earlier reference to the Stoke manager doing a lap of honour, that Tony Pulis lost his mother - yet he attended the game. But obviously wanted to make a hasty exit from the proceedings.
Hope hes in the squad for the Russia/Slovakia double header!
Much more likely he'll be in the squad for the november friendlyQuote:
Originally Posted by stiffler
Squad is named on Monday so it'll be interesting to see how many play at the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by stiffler
Of the Irish players starting this wkend in the premier league, there will be more left out of the squad - McCarthy, Ward, Foley, Wilson, Carr (retired i know), Delap than named in the squad - Dunne, Doyle, O'Shea (possibly), Kelly. 6 versus 4. Apologies for the terrible phrasing but I think it's an interesting pointQuote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
He will name Foley so it's 5 v5 - Delap and Carr really are a moot point so in the end its 5 he selects and 3 he leaves out.
The simple point tho is Ward is a better option than Kilbane, and McCarthy/Wilson are all better options for a partner to Glenn Whelan. But Trap won't change without a friendly, no point hoping he will
Wilson and Whelan on the bench today. Walters (who according to the Sky commentators has been Stokes best player in recent games) is on the bench.
BBC R5 Live (Tim Flowers) speaking very highly of Walters.