You still haven't answered my question about the Koller goal BMC.
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You still haven't answered my question about the Koller goal BMC.
He was turned far to easily IMO. No excuses for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Fair enough, I just wouldn't consider the opinion of one fan on a letters page to be worth postingQuote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
What about O'Shea's involvement in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
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Originally Posted by BigmanCas
BMC did you write this particular letter to f365 by any chance?
That's not a fact, it's a hypothetical.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
In Summary, things are so bad now that I am in praying for Andy o Brien to change his mind... :(
I think Paul McShane is done, another Gary Breen...
might work out for some lower division club somewhere but not international level or english premiership
Honestly the same old rubbish trotted out time and time again, Breen may not have been as talented as McGrath or Moran but he gave it his best and gave us great service down the years, had a fine WC in 02. O'Brien likewise has been very solid for Ireland. Their record is good and they can be proud of what they accomplished.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
McShane is in a real slump right now, he needs to get his confidence back but he lacks height and turn of speed. But he is still young and probably has the strength of character to recover, whether his level is Premier League or Championship is tbd, though certainly looking like the latter right now.
Sorry for repeating myself yet again but lack of height doesn't seem to bother him in the slightest if he can put in motm performances against Koller, Berbatov, B.McCarthy and Davies. Put him at centre half, let him man mark a target man and he's proven he can eat them up. :)
Someone is making sense at last!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
He's still young, it's not like he's not going to learn, or improve in the next few years. Dunne played for a season in the Championship with Man City, and when they were promoted was dropped from the side. Nobody at that point could have predicted what kind of player he was going to become.
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
He will be 22 when the season starts and he won’t be any better. I think the Keane is in a better position to judge if McShane is a centre back or not and it’s quite obvious he does not think so. If he does not play him there when the regular centre backs are injured he never will.He may have played a good game there against the more recognised strikers like Koller, Berbatov, etc and done well due to they being on the bigger side, but he cant choose who he will get paired with and smaller strikers like Martins and Owen would take him apart as it proved on Sunday. He may play better when paired with Dunne but who will guide him when Dunne is injured?
He needs to get out of Sunderland and find a club who are willing to take the risk of playing him in the centre. If he proves me wrong and plays like a centre should marking all type of strikers not just the bigger ones I will hold my hand up. In the meantime though he is just not good enough and inspires no confidence in me whatsoever.
The partnership is far more important than the individual players and McShane has had some nightmares beside both Higginbottom and Nosworthy. In saying that, I'm sure he would have done well against Viduka.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
btw, if Dunne is injured we're screwed no matter who we play.
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
If this is the case then we should give Paddy McCarthy or Sean St Ledger a go. I know they play in the Championship but they are regular centres who play there week in week out. Yeah it’s frightening to have to rely on Dunne being fit or suspension free for us to have any hope in this group.
Exactly. Dunne and McShane have generally looked solid together. However, if McShane was paired with O'Shea or O'Brien I'd be very worried, but I'd also be worried if it was an O'Shea-O'Brien partnership. Dunne is experienced and has enough football intelligence to help McShane through games, the others don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
As for the F365 worst 11 of the year, F365 is a s**tty tabloid-esque site and I wouldn't pay too much attention to what people write on there. Besides, I could give you my worst 11 of the season, but I'd have watched most of the players 1 or 2 times and caught highlights for the rest of them. The only people who could properly decide a team/worst team of the season relatively accurately are people who have watched each team about 20 times during the season.
FFS! Do you even remember Gary Breen playing for Ireland? Such a stupid comparison. Despite Breen's dodgy club form at times his performances in an Ireland shirt were extremely solid-he rarely let us down and was a model pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
McShane would be doing very well at this stage to even get close to Breen's consistency when playing for Ireland.
You can’t compare Breen and McShane. Breen may have been prone to the odd mistake but he was a miles better player than McShane. He was a leader for a start and his positional sense was much better, well most of the time anyway. I wish he was a few years younger.
Not a chance mate, Cunningham told him where to go and what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
Not entirely correct. All that decision on Sunday showed was that he thinks McShane's a better rightfull than Higanbotham.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
Had it just been Evans that was unnavailabe then that would have been a true reflection on where evans is in the pecking order.
He'll be given another year at Sunderland I reckon, and rightly so. He has had more than just one good game at the start of the season as some here seem to think. I've seen every televised game this Season involving Sunderland. I dunno what the frame of reference is for some people's opinions. Paul McShane is a brutal full back is about all i'll agree with....
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
He may have but I assessed Breen as quite vocal and a good organiser. I think they both complimented each other. He wasn’t afraid to have a go at Keano either. Out of interest would you play McShane before him if he was still in his prime?
I didnt know ye guys were mates?! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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Originally Posted by dr_peepee
Higginbotham is his regular right back isnt he but played in the centre on Sunday as stand in for Evans.If McShane was good enough for the centre why was he not played there?
Its posible that McShane will stay for another season but its not going to do us any favors if we intend to use him as our centre back. He will not get a regular place in the Sunderland team and i am sure Keane will buy some more defenders.He needs to move imo.
Higginbotham is a left-full by trade and Collins and Bardsley are their regular full backsQuote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
Higanbotham started his career at left full but at Stoke and even I think Southampton before that he was played at centre half. He's only played left full this season when Collins was out.... He's defo not a right full though.
How come commentators pronounce it : HIGG IN BOTT UM instead of the way it's spelt: HIGG IN BOTH AM....Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
Just wondering...
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
Well, you’re one person on here who I would not be looking to for advice on any football related issues so I will just have to ignore this feeble attempt of sarcasm.;)
Well he was an unknown quantity when he put in those performances, he is not unknown any more and his limitations can easily be exposed by a smart agile striker. He has to improve his concentration, absolutley key for a slow-ass. And curb his inclination to commit to tackles when they're not on.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
I agree lack of height isn't a major problem, Fabio Cannavaro is a midget :)
Blackburn and Bolton were his 3rd and 4th last starts for Sunderland. The people judging the players in the fantasy football marked him down as the best player on the pitch against Blackburn and 2nd to Jones against Bolton. In fact he still has more bonus points than any other Sunderland defender which shows that he has put in a few outstanding performances. Some people may laugh that I take those bonus points so seriously but I'd trust them more than any other media source since they're judged by ex-pro's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Thats a fair point but at the moment his confidence is on the floor and he was genuinely terrible at the weekend. He could come good again but I wouldnt have him near the team against Serbia. Gotta play your form players if possible. At least he got that dulux dog fringe of his cut so that he can see properly now, unfortunately it didnt do him any good on sunday!
In fairness Eirebhoy fantasy football ratings are the last I'd trust when judging a player. For example most of the fantasy football games in the English tabloids seem to assign a mark to a player then multiply it by a factor of approx 1.5 (not sure the actual weigthed value) if that same player happens to play for England. They are generally fairly poor and not consistent with the actual games that I've watched.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
I don't know I find them very accurate. I usually agree with their top 3 players whenever I see a premiership game. I'm talking about the official premier league fantasy football though, not the ones in the papers. I doubt the tabloids have ex-pro's officially assigned to every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
btw, Dunne had more bonus points than any premiership defender last season and he's top again this season with 33 points, 6 ahead of Laursen, who himself is 6 points ahead of the next best.
And they absolutely love Andy Reid.
Thats unfair, maybe if you took the time to go to the games you would be able to make a judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
St Ledger has been outstanding all season for Preston and has already won 3 of the fans player of the year awards and tipped to win the clubs official awards as well.
McCarthy has played regularly for Charlton too, so in my opinion they are both worth giving a chance.
Considering Dunne hasn't scored this season, whereas Laursen and Lescott are the top goalscoring defenders, and Dunne was sent off against Blackburn, it's more impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Is McCarthy still getting sent off regularly?Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
I've heard that McCarthy has had a very good last third of the season. Andy Reid says he's the kind of character you'd want in the trenches with you. I said a year or two ago that I think he's decent but I wanted him to push his game on that bit extra but as yet I don't think he's done it, merly just repeating his better form at Leicester. I was surprised he didn't make the 40 man squad tbh. He was a lynchpin during Givens' most successful period in the U21s (12 or 13 unbeaten, plus a few headed goals) so I'd have thought he'd have had a good word to say about him to the new management.
I agree with the Doc here. Both St Ledger and McCarthy should merit consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
He was 3rd in the Charlton player of the year poll, Matt Holland won it
I guess my point was there are both naturally pretty slow and get destroyed by quick defenders... thats unlikely to change .... didnt mean to upset all the Gary Breen lovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Yikes! Jaysus the whole Charlton team must've been absolute much if the invisible man is still their best player!
My cab driver in London on Saturday was a Brighton fan. He said McShane is a legend down there, really highly regarded and he can't understand why he's struggling, especially as he noted he had done well at WBA too. They think Wayne Henderson is a tool.
why?!