Celtic Discussion

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Originally posted by Conor74
I think the whole Celtic/Irish thing is simply great marketing

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I would tend to agree with you on that Conor. Sure they have miniscule Irish connections from their distant past but today it is no more than an extremely clever and successful marketing ploy. Celtic PLC plays on the whole 'Celtic are Irish' Irish idea and make a fortune from selling related products.
It is a shame that so many Irish people are taken in by this and pump so much money into this organisation without realising they are being taken for a ride. However, one tends to find it hard to feel sorry for these people as most Irish Celtic "fans" are complete idiots!

Celtic and Rangers have been incredibly successful in marketing themselves and playing the sectarian card. The term "Old Firm" was coined back in 1904 as the 2 clubs operated as a cartel.

The rest of the Scottish clubs suffer in a similiar way to the LoI with many locals supporting one of the big Two rather than Motherwell or Kilmarnock.

It was normally Manyoo or Liverpool here but Celtic have grown in popularity here in the past couple of years and particularly in re3cent months with the tv exposure on RTE.

Personally, i think it is really pathetic that you people support celtic as "passionatley" as you do. I mean i was talking to someone recently, who on telling him i was delighted that Porto beat Celtic, and that i hoped Rangers would win the league, he said to me "so you agree with everything that has happened up there, you agree with sectarian killings etc"


How stupid is that? Because as far as i can see, the catholic side of the divide is just as bigoted and there are as many murderous fluckers among them.

Gimmick have you been to Scotland?- Have you been to a Celtic game? - Have you been to an Old Firm game??

The media make a big deal out of it all - It's no way near as bad as made out to be!

I have friends and family who support Rangers and are Protestants - Celtic and Rangers fans mingle nae bora - Anyone who doesn't is not even worth talking about!!

I love the fact that Celtic and Rangers hate each other - Makes the games extra special - Just like Scotland V England games - Special!!

Why do you support your team??

If you wanted Celtic to get beat then that's up to you.

Personally I don't care who hates Celtic and who likes them - I know of hundreds and thousands of supporters of Celtic.

This forum talks about respect for their league and teams but don't give any respect to others.

Too many people with too many chips on their shoulders on this forum!!!

Anyway I would like to wish Scotland and Ireland all the best on their forthcoming International games.

Thanks

The Hairy Arsed Lowlander.

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You missed my point entirely Scotsman.

What i was saying, is that this guy "supports" Celtic because he is told to, not becasue of any great love for their players, fans, footballing ability. And i think that is stupid. I mean, someone earlier in thes thread said something silly like, "how can you call yourself irish if you dont support Celtic". To me that is one of the most ridiculous statements i have ever heard.

And just to say something else on the matter. How dare Englands no 1 striker Chris Sutton accuse Dunfermline of lying down. That just struck me as being a case of bitter grapes and being a bad loser. In fairness like, Celtin won 4-0 away from home against a team who had aspirations of a UEFA place, Dunfermline on the other hand were playing for very little (i think) and away from home, in a ground they apparently get very little. Makes you wonder who really lay down. I mean, at least Dunfermline scored a goal.

I'm not even going to get involved with the Sutton incident - Bit silly to say the puclicly.

The comment of supporting Celtic because your Irish is also a wee bit silly - But hey each to their own.

Don't hate Celtic because of these things.

Rangers players come out with silly statements also and so do other football personnel - They should all know better.

Anyway que sera
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Originally posted by Gimmick
Personally, i think it is really pathetic that you people support celtic as "passionatley" as you do.

I mean i was talking to someone recently, who on telling him i was delighted that Porto beat Celtic, and that i hoped Rangers would win the league,

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Is there any particular reason that you would prefer Rangers to win the league?

It's because they're not Celtic Oddboy... Surely that makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:

As pathetic as it might be to passionately support Celtic, I think it's even more pathetic to passionately hate them.

Well said bhoys.

I have to say I really enjoy hating Rangers right enough - Superb.

I also hate Hearts of Midlothian - Cousins of Rangers!!

Don't mind Hibs and a few other innthe SPL.

The opposite to hating Celtic is not supporting Rangers. Many fans lump those 2 as one and the same. Hibs have a great song that goes

"We hate Glasgow Rangers, We hate Celtic too - They're ****e" don't know the rest but you get the picture.

The Old firm get most of the money, most of the favourable refereeing decisions but are still streets ahead of the rest of Scotland. Does mean most Scottish fans don't love to see both of them come a cropper.

You're quite right they do sing that - Good for them - Rivalry.

Most Hibees like us over the Gers.

I think we will be seeing a transformation in the Spl shortly - For the better I have to add.

Hey scotsman, agree with alot your saying about celtic, but quite a few people over here support celtic cos of the whole sectarian bull**** crap. But other than that celtic are great and the cup run especially this year was great.
Hopefully next season one of the irish teams will put together a decent run in european-that would really make people sit up and take notice of our league here.
But congrats to the scots on a good result against germany, considering in fairness that the scottish teamisnt the strongest at the moment.
Hopefully we'll both be at portugal next year and then there'll will be some party!!!!

it'd be unprecedented but
Scotland, Wales and ourselves could all qualify
(i won't count england because they rarely miss out).

and Hartson is likely to be the only Celtic player in those teams.

Rab Douglas? Even Jackie McNamara at a push.

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yeah, forgot about douglas.
mcnamara though? he'd be doing well to get on the city team;)

Paul Lambert ?
He will surely stay on if they get to the finals.

Would it not be wonderful if Scotland/Ireland and Wales got to the World Cup and Engurland never.

Not likely to happen though!!

I think Scotland could still struggle - Certainly it was a great result against the Germans and I would like to see us maintain the performance.

Say Scotland did get 2nd spot - We could then get a great team in the play-offs and still not make it.

Still lies in the balance.

Read Caniggia's comments about Rangers??

Superb!!

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Originally posted by Scotsman
Read Caniggia's comments about Rangers??

Superb!!

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What did he say?

Hello all,

Just joined this site so have been reading up on this thread.
I have to agree with DJ, the main problem is not supporting Celtic but that its is expected in Ireland. I cant even tell the amount of stupid comments i have heard by Irish Celtic fans - my favorite being that Scotland was not in Britain (this was then changed to "Well they want to be in Ireland!)

It also doesnt help that i am East Irish (now there is a twist on the usual....).

He basically said that Rangers won because Celtic were tired from the UEFA run and that McLeish was not a great manager.

Please see site www.skysports.com

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HHHmmmmm Bitter grapes, i dont think so at all!

Anyways, was "delighted" to see that "awful" Arveladze booed last night at Lansdowne. Even George "I Love Cetic FC more than Ireland" described it as Pathetic. Will those muppets ever learn?

You see sdcotsman, you seem like a level headed feen, but you are defendding the indefensible when cwap like that happens.

Yep it was sour grapes - Funny all the same.

I always felt Caniggia needed a good wash - He always looked bogging!!

With reference to booing - Scotland has it's morons also.

I remember years ago some Celtic supporters being booed.

It was a section of Rangers fans.

Thankfully all that's stopped - Probarly because alot of daft Rangers fans support England.

So you see there are morons in every country - These morons make think that we are the morons.

Each to their own as they.

Celtic are trying to get a playmeker - Thank goodness as we badly need one!!

What was the Ireland score incidentally??:ball:

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Originally posted by Scotsman
What was the Ireland score incidentally??:ball:

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2-0 to our good selves.

Excellent - How are Ireland sitting in the table now??

I heard a wee rumour that Van Brockhurst (Ex Rangers player) was getting a medical today at Paradise.

I had heard weeks ago they were interested in him - That would be a good signing as he's a good player.

That'd be great getting right up the Rangers.

Don't think he'll sign though as per his allegiance to Rangers.

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Originally posted by Scotsman
Excellent - How are Ireland sitting in the table now??

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Have a look for yourself here

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Well Done - I think you'll be safe now eh.

Here's hoping Scotland can make it - I love the World Cup.

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Originally posted by Scotsman
I love the World Cup.

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Me too... but these are qualifiers for the European Championship! :D

God so it is - I'm a rocket sometimes - Honestly.

My heads wasted .

I'll try that again - I love things like the World Cup and European tournaments.

The problem is I'm at work and getting distracted - Hence making mistakes.

Anyway hope ALL the Celts make it - Northern Ireland are poor at the moment aren't they!

Excellent thread lads, took me about a day and a half to read it. I'm from the black north and have to say that i hate both rangers and celtic.

Think it's ironic that the scottish celtic supporters want to be Irish, when in fact they are more British than the Irish Rangers supporters, who want to be british. if that makes sense??

And scotsman do you follow football outside septic at all?? World cup qualifiers?? Oh and Northern Ireland played a blinder the other night, spurred on by the best player on the pitch Damien Johnson, genius, and by Andy Smith a part timer at Glentoran.

Also I think if you add the achievements of Irland North and South together, i'd say it'd be better than anything Scotland ever achieved on the international stage.

On and the subject of Glentoran, their MASSIVE rivalry with Linfield (scum) something which for once isn't about religion or politics.

Someone's took that personal eh!!

Scotland Internationally have dissapointed in the main events - Yep no-one can deny that.

Never due to lack of talent in the past.

What I was merely saying was that Northern Ireland have fell away quite badly just like Scotland.

Please don't tar all Celtic fans with the same brush.

I'm a Celtic fan - I'm Scottish - Support Scotland - Don't pretend to be Irish - Proud to be Scottish and there a lots like me who are Celtic fans.

There is an element of what you say - That's their perogative.

If we are referring to shaping football then Scotland have played a major part in this and this in itself is an achievement.

Scotland has the oldest football team in the world.

The Scots set-up the FA.

We created the current passing game.

A Scotsman started football in Brazil.

Just a pity we can't play the game!!!

ive noticed o lot of people on this board are anti-celtic. id luv to know why
firstly,celtic never asked the irish to support them
secondly, what business is it of yers if a person decides to support another club besides their el club
if that was the way, y arent ye anti man utd,liverpool,arsenal etc.....
i bet most of these "anti-celtic" fans had a good nite out for the uefa cup final
i remember almost half of the cornerboys gathered in the friars walk and we certainly had a good nite

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Originally posted by thecorner
y arent ye anti man utd,liverpool,arsenal etc.....

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I'm anti-the whole ****in lot of them British clubs...

everyone is entitled to their own opinion

To be honest I don't think that everyone really is anti-celtic. I think the problem is that a lot of people in Ireland support Celtic just because of the whole Catholic and supposedly Irish connection the club has. They don't support them because they like the football they play.

The majority of these people probably have never even made the effort to go to Glasgow for games yet they feel it perfectly acceptable to boo rangers players at Lansdowne Rd just so they can 'do their bit' for Celtic. But the main problem I have with a lot of Celtic supporters, and I'm sure it's the same for a lot of people, is that they look down their noses at us for supporting eL clubs and prob have never even been to games here either.

They sit in pubs watching games all year and claim to be experts, yet when I arrange time of work to go watch City play fellas at work think I'm mad!!! Now I'm sure there are genuine Celtic fans out there............but in a small minority I reckon!!!!!

well i support celtic and i dont supprt the premiership but city will always come first

there was a good observation posted by the dj on a similar topic. i think a lot of people assume an anti celtic stance because the assumption is that because we are irish we must support celtic. it isn't celtic themselves who apply this pressure but irish celtic fans. it's a natural instinct to want to rebel against such pressure regardless of whether you (in this case) even have a like or dislike for the club.

the only time i've ever been 'anti-celtic' (it didn't effect me for long)was about two/three seasons back for a home game at 12 on sunday against bray when the attendance was terrible because it clashed with an old firm game. i couldn't understand how a city fan could pass up a live game to watch the sanitised televised version.

personally, i love to watch football and keep an eye on lots of teams in lots of leagues but first and foremost i'm a city fan.

like myself tiktok, watched utd coz of the cork biys, kepy check on wycombe coz of paulie mac, also watched out for preston(barry-murphy), wrexham(carey), reading(gamble),leicester(delany)

so y shouldnt we watch out for healy and miller

i don't think it's neccessarily people like ourselves that give cause for the anti-celtic sentiment thecorner,

it's the lads who'll spend money going to glasgow (or manchester or liverpool) maybe once a month, but have never been inside a league of ireland ground and who never will because "the league is rubbish" (in their opinion).

on top of this, it is irish celtic fans who receive the worst negative opinion is because many of them imply that you are more irish if you support celtic than if you support an LOI side.

Lads i follow chelsea over the pond and i go to games alot but I follow city all the time I arange my games around cork city all the time. As for the celtic thing that you are on about I look out for there result on the day but my first game i will all ways look out for is city if I cant get to away games.
I am all ways out in the cross when there is a game on may it be under 17 up to the first team.