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Originally Posted by the special 1
I'd have agree with him being a bit childish walking away etc.. but I wouldnt slag his ability ask him yourself he knows he isn't a "great player". The lad has a football brain that most people would kill for. Not very nice slagging behind an identity tag.
ya it was fluky guess just like knockaineys win yesterday.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by the special 1
do you know what the lotto numbers will be on wednesday night :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by the special 1
bit harsh on the lad .. he stuck with park last year when they were in the sh*T and before all the superstars arrived .. he may not be great anyway in your view... he has a good attitude to game and would always give 100% to park .. might miss players like him when away to country lads on a cold wet sunday morning on a sh***y pitch ... not looking to good after 5-6 games if trouble in camp already..Quote:
Originally Posted by the special 1
anyone got yesterdays results?
your spot on old git,but there aint no trouble in the camp,like you said mark has good attitude to the game so in my opinion he will stick with it,but i know where he is coming from,busting his nuts in training like the rest of the squad,to see the likes of rhyno and neville not training as much then starting every sunday morning,to be quiet on honest id have mark in there anyday before neville,dont rate neville at all,2 left feet if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
crazy situation asking for trouble .. if lad training and others not and getting games before him.. could cause a lot more tension & anger among players if it keeps happening... what i've seen of neville alright in air but dodgy on ground and rhyno looks totally unfit .. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by brutus
It is a situation looking for trouble,very hard to keep players interested in training and sunday mornings if they know they aint on the starting 11,after the performance of all the players sunday who started,there has to be changes involved for next game,even myself who started that game,:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
if manager deceides changes needed for next game then he has to base it on who is training at least.. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by brutus
Correct,otherwise there will end up being 6 at training weekly,with 10 players not training because they know they are walking into the team without showing for training sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
Seems to me like this could blow up soon, Finnan wont worry about picking guys who don't train, his job is to get results. I know from past teams he has managed this is his only concern. His attitude has always been Judge him on results.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutus
A manager should always be thinking of results,thats the main factor as a manager and to be successful you need good results,but to pick lads that aint training before lads who are is wrong,you might as well forget about results then because at the end of the day,if he cant keep lads happy there going to look for a transfer which leaves him in trouble with a shortage of players to try and get what you said all he cares about (results).Quote:
Originally Posted by platini
Couldn't agree more, some lads are still fuming after the Holycross fiasco. Bare 11 showed up, the lads gave it there all,and came away with a 1- nil win, then come the following Tuseday not a word was said to all the lads that didn't bother showing up.THEN,come the following Sunday some of the lads that showed up for the Holycross game were dropped and not a word said.Left a very bad taste in the mouths of alot of the lads.Quote:
A manager should always be thinking of results,thats the main factor as a manager and to be successful you need good results,but to pick lads that aint training before lads who are is wrong,you might as well forget about results then because at the end of the day,if he cant keep lads happy there going to look for a transfer which leaves him in trouble with a shortage of players to try and get what you said all he cares about (results).
he may struggle to get results if players get frustrated at lack of games and deceide to look for transfers or leave club ... :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by platini
I dont blame them for being angry,thats not fair on the players who played the holycross game,but at the same time these players with bitter taste in there mouths are just bickering amongst themselves,if a player has a problem he should go straight to peter or dermot,not be sitting on the sideline bitching about not being played,:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by ParkLife
I agree, it needs to be addressed before it gets worse. When you have the likes of Shane Mc Carthy packing it in,then there must be something wrong.
Is Shane definetely gone,or just another stupid rumour on this website,big loss if true,one of the better players at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by ParkLife
Lads don't be complaining on a forum about who is not playing. The best thing to do is for all of the side to get together and trash out what problems that all of you think exist. Whoever the captain is of the side I suggest that you all have a word with him and not be airing the dirty linen in public.
He hasn't been at training for the past few weeks, and one of the lads met him last Saturday and he said he was packing it in,cos his knees are banjaxed!!
as you said either captain or players ask to meet manager... but it seems crazy at this early stage of season that fellas are already frustrated & fed up with situation at park .. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by shanman2
Lads this is getting blown out of proportion,Park in a great position at the moment and lets just drop this subject on players not happy,if there not theyl leave,but at 7 o clock this evening we will have at least 18 training again so lets leave it at that.
Any one any fixtures for this weekend?
To be honest, I don't think too many are fed up with Finnan,I think it's the fact that they're are about 18/20 lads down at every game,and you can only play 11.I mean meeting at 8.45 on a cold and windy sunday morning away to Knockainy,you would have thought 13 maybe 14 lads would show up.there was at least 18 lads at it.So the desire to play for him is there,especially when the team is doing so well.
Probably more of an inevitability than a probability that players are going to be unhappy. Well I feel for them really if they are not wanted/needed then why tag them along. A few simple words by the manager and this would have been avoided.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
No fixtures yet. Is it just me or is the LDMC website the worst in the world. Every time I check it for fixtures I get "No report" and the tables still aren't up to date. They should take a look at the claresoccer.net website. They have the topscorers,even players that have only scored one goal!!!
dermot has a history of signing anything with a heart beat so they can't play elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanman2
Any player would not be happy to stay on the sidelines. all they can do is wait for their chance (hopefully given a fair chance) and take it. If somebody is pulling the **** he is only doing this to his fellow players.
Dermot is paid to do a job and that is get the team back to the permier. he will do that his own way. Nice guys win nothing.
What do most of these players think when they get promoted and he gets more players in as they aren't good enough for 1a or premier.... then the fun begins
Ya that was tried before at Park they ended the season after bottom of 1A getting trashed by everyone and anyone. Since then players who walked away in Parks hour of need then re-appear in a heroic fashion to wrestle Park AFC from the depths of lower league football. A man who is loyal to players will achieve much more than a man who abuses his players. Might be mistaken but I think it ended in tears at Fairview?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
he was with park before and started very well. Then after winning 7 on the bounce the wheels came off.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanman2
The team was taken over for the next 3 season by Nobber and albert and reached the 1/4 final of the fai. The next year they hung on to premier status with a fight. The club then relegated themselves. Some of the players that left had put in good time with park. Some will never return. None of the current players feel they are back in heroic form. maybe playing 1b it is a bit easier to have a drink the night before.
Now DF is back to get Park back where they belong. will he do it?
paid to do a job managing in division 1b ... f**k me i must start thinking about getting into management :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
Yes he will do it if he keeps his squad,Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
looks like he is starting to lose some of squad already...Quote:
Originally Posted by brutus
as per earlier post 4-5 newtown lads joined due to lack of games at newtown ... how long will they stay if same thing is happening at park :ball:
Old git who has left park?apart from shane mcarthy due to his knees are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
knees gone could be an excuse ,, & has mc keogh also gone as per earlier threads.. ithere is still a long hard season to come will be very intresting down at riverside park in the coming months looking forward to watching a few games to see if any furthur developments :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by brutus
In my opinion it aint no excuse because he is usually a starter for park,as for mark if he leaves i think it would be farely disappointing because its still early days,everyone is going to be given a chance,you just gotta be strong enough to stick with the trainings and wait for your oppurtunity.:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
it's a tough one for lads are you willing to keep training / turning up for matches and maybee not get a game its even harder when you have a large panel.. played long enough & stood on the line a lot longer to know players will get frustrated / fed up the longer the season goes on .. cannot see anyway of keeping everybody happy :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by brutus
plus it gets harder to keep the fitness and match sharpness going to make an impression if you are not playing regulary.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
I hope park get back to the permier with their great facilities. but their best times are behind them i think.
It is a pity that they relegated themselves for 1 season and now will pay a manager to get them back up (cost themselves a lot of money for relegating themselves). However i think they will never learn. it is not the first time they have been stung for money. After Dermot finnan leaves they may try and match 'Stans' wages when he is let go from the irish job :D
To say parks best days are over is insane,if you see the set-up down there for schoolboys,all age groups,tuesday and thursdays kids everywhere,good to see that the club are going in the right direction,all it takes is to keep the consistency going with the junior team,if lads hear park are winning alot of there games,tough training sessions,great facilities,experienced management,of course lads are going to want to join the club,the more players down the better,Its the start of a new era for park,in a excellent way.:ball::ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
Its hard ok but we seem at the moment anyway to have a fairly dedicated bunch,training hard, all travelling to the games and i can assure you all, the motivation with Dermot Finnan is not money but results and improvement, and there is a lot of that needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
Riverside there must be other people at the club capable of taking Park out of 1B. 5-0 versus Herbertstown, 3-0 vs Knockainey and some dreadful performances to boot. I will comment that soon enough Dermot is going to have to make decisions, big decisions, without the money to get a few players. IMO its in the dressing room after being beaten 3-0 where a manager makes his money. The days of using and abusing players is long gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by riverside
Some dreadful performances are you mad are ya,herbetstown match played them off the park for 80 minutes then when they scored,the lads put there heads down,you obviously dont know we won our first 5 league games of the season and are still in a great position and there is also enough players at the moment 23 signed,so shanman wake up will ya.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by shanman2
all managers at premier and most at 1A get paid - someone of his expericne would be on good moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by riverside