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Nakamura is Irish?!Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Its Macnamara, honest! and Bob O'BaldeQuote:
Originally Posted by Marked Man
I thought it was just me who felt sorry for San Marino when Ireland scored but having read the posts here and from talking to people in the pub it seems I wasn't alone.
The sad fact is that Staunton will still be here next month and even if we had of drawn the FAI still wouldn't have sacked him. Sorry state of affairs.....
Nakamura would have been like a pro in the middle of kids tonight. ;) Here's an idea of how well McGeady was performing by October:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marked Man
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=546347&postcount=227
Nakamura has obviously taken the lead by a lot but McGeady's still 2nd even though he has missed a lot of games.
Spot on. We definitely have the players, we just don't have the right manager. We can't let this go on any longer because this is going to kill our seedings in future competitions, Kerr did us enough damage on that front without Stan really putting his foot in it.
We have some really exciting prospects coming through and I'm not one to get excited about the next 12 year old who is making an impact :) I wish the FAI would go out and maybe get someone like Joe Kinnear or John Aldridge as a stop gap for the remainder of the campaign. Stan has no redeeming quality.
We just don't seem to have a shape or game plan any more, as far as I am concerned 90% of our problems since WC 2002 have been with poor management.
From Eurosport.com
Outspoken Sunderland manager Roy Keane has labelled San Marino 'shocking' as he argues that there is such a thing as an easy game in international football.
The former Republic of Ireland captain has bucked the trend of preaching the dangers of complacency in such fixtures by insisting Steve Staunton's side should pick up three comfortable points in the Euro 2008 qualifier.
"There are some shocking teams out there," he told a press conference.
"These people who say there are no easy games in world football are talking rubbish.
"Ireland should win comfortably tonight.
"San Marino are shocking, absolutely shocking so I expect Ireland to win."
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Originally Posted by clearskies
yeah well we won 2-1 anyway without you keane
you sell out traitor
On the bright side the Eircom League will be starting soon enough so we'll all have some real football to watch.
wasnt it keane who spoke out against the Farcical Apathetic Institute?Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
keane botlled it -said he hated the lack of professionalism-
this is his brave new world
Having watched Steve Staunton's interview after the game tonight, I've come to the conclusion that he looks like a potatoe.
what about the EPl \superstars -staunton or no staunton they should stroll by these players
We're honoured to have a former vice-president in our midst :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
you absolute spud!!!! we won, but god we were poor, god it was embaressing sitting there. they were tripe. against part timers ,it was horrible. keane is right, whether you like it or not, everyone would agree with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
players need some sort of direction, some sort of plan. with stauntons umming and awwwing, and robbie keane trotting out football captain clicje #22 - just go out and have fun, is it any wonder they didnt have a plan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
Honestly I can't understand why people have to keep going on about Keane, he got us to WC02. At any rate just look what he has done at Sunderland, just imagine what he could do for Ireland. Frankly, he could do the Ireland job part time :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
No disrespect on struggling past San Marino on a 2-1 scoreline and calling it three points in the bag, it is countries like Mongolia, Guam, American Samoa, Bhutan and Montserrat that should have aspirations of travelling to San Marino and achieveing such a result. For the likes of Ireland, a 5-0 win should be a mere formality. The supporters that travelled deserved better. Even Westport United could have won that game tonight.
Agree 100% With Eirebhoy. A Sound Assessment. Staunton Out. Aget Someone In With 6 Weeks To Go Before Wales - Cant Do Any Worse.
My opinion on the game is as follows, I was so embarassed and ashamed and them 2 words sum up my most postives feelings on the game. The defenders through the game were comfortable but too comfortable, their passing was not great, it was slow and predictable. The Midfield was the same, but spent longer on the ball dilly-dallying. Robbie Keane was woeful and really poor, everytime he was on the ball, he somehow lost it and took him till 85 Mins to get a shot on target.
Duff was poor in the 1st half, thinking that it would be easy for him but only really started playing well after the goal. Shane Long did not get into the game at all, so really can not say if he was bad or good. When Hunt and Stokes came on, the team looked much better and a bit more lively.
Hendo wanted to do something in the game so came out to clear a non existent ball that he had no chance of getting and did not let Dunne deal with it.
Overall, the team is to blame, in all honesty, you do not need tactics to beat San Marino, the players knew what they would do, expected a very easy win and therefore thought, easy win, no need to try. Half-time, they knew they had to do something, they did and then after that, dour again.
I know must will say, Staunton is to blame for getting into the players to perform well, I am very sure he did this all managers say to their players not to take it easy. Also, Staunton is not an experienced manager, what do people expect of him, to be like Alex Ferguson after 1 year of management. I think he should be judged after the Qualifiers, whether Ireland fail or do it. There is still a good 7 games to go.
That's a scary prospect. There's a very real possibility we could finish second-last in this group.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Bad as the situation is, most people are calling for Stan's head right now before it gets worse.
Do we really need to see any more? To hear any more? Some of his comments really defy belief.
Oh, the incompetence!
Maybe if you keep hearing the truth, it gets boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Yellow and a knock, so what? Should still get a game if he's the better player. This is just the sort of "Ah sure, he'll do" attitude that has made O'Shea survive at ManU and international level.
O'Brien - lack of form? I can think of few Irish centre-backs i'd have behind O'Shea on lack of form, in fairness.
And that's over the last 4 years. The lad is poor at football. End of.
I can't say I think Stan is doing a good job, his "I'm rebuilding for 4 years ahead" attitude is basically saying the thinks (rightly or wrongly) the current crop are a pile of sh*te, and he has given up on qualifying. How motivating is that? I can't say I find him very inspiring,he seems same type as the current England manager (well maybe not that bad to be fair).
But ultimately he doesn't have much experience in management, OK neither did Jürgen Klinsmann, but then he was managing Germanay, not Ireland!!
It's not players - it's the manager that picks them. Enough is enough. Stan OUT!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Yes - Stan's inexperienced and that's why he shouldn't be manager. He got the top job in Irish football with absolutely no experience - why? Isn't it reasonable of supporters to expect that somebody in the top job of Irish football can demonstrate some managerial skills? Stan hasn't done this in more than 13 months in the job. The only thing he has done is, with a arrogant swagger, state that he's building for the future. What worrying for me is that he's breeding a second-best mentality into our new caps - the future of our team. Is this our future - relying on luck to score against San Marino?
I'm really knocked back by Stan's aftermatch comments. Again this is the man in the top job of Irish football and he can't give a honest assessment of a match he has just witnessed played before his eyes. Stan if you are reading have a gentleman's decency to admit last night is not good enough and scoring from a goal mouth scramble is not "fighting spirit". San Marino are the worst team in Europe, after us, and they're not going to cause the other teams in our qualifying group any trouble. Be a man and admit you're out of you depth, and take John Delaney with you when you are closing the door on your managerial career.
As agreed with the fast majority stan is a muppet being employed by another muppet, muppets can not run an internatonal team ffs. Another thing all this bull that Stokes has no experience, he scored 14 goals in Scotland against players that are about 10000 times better than that shower of s**t we were up against last night. He should have started ahead of Long IMO, the grief i have to listen to from these Windsor fans, it's embrassing. Stan is a walt and his interview was a disgrace, show some accountability stan you spinless c**t.
Why do the glory-hunting Micks support Ireland? They follow British clubs because Irish football isn't 'good enough' for them, yet they folly deh boyz in gree-in when England and even Cyprus and the Vatican are far better. Is it because follying Oireland gets them away from their ugly wives and gurlfriends now and again to drink themselves sick while dressed as leprechauns?
What's this got to do with the match last night??Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Lord
Unfortunately Stan isnt up to the task. Delaney was hell bent on appointing him for some reason. Stan will go sooner than later. If he's managing us come the world cup qualifiers, even San Marino will be ahead of us in the rankings.
I feel sorry for Stan - he's like a rabbit in headlights.
Stan must go and the self-appointed dictator Delaney must go with him.
:confused: :confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Lord
We were seconds away from being the laughing stock of world football. How this gang of premiership players can go back to training with their clubs with any dignity is beyond me. The stick being dished out would be gas.
Imagine payin €200 or more for croke park tickets only to be witnessing meaningless drivel.
I am embarrassed, but relieved.
Get them all out. We have a few weeks to put a decent manager in charge with time to sort out this mess.
Eleven a Side Ratings
Wayne Henderson: 4
Steve Finnan: 5
John O’Shea: 5
Richard Dunne: 5
Ian Harte: 4
Damien Duff: 7
Lee Carsley: 5
Stephen Ireland: 6
Kevin Kilbane: 6
Robbie Keane: 4
Shane Long: 4
Subs:
Paul McShane: 5
Stephen Hunt: 5
Anthony Stokes: 7
Probably about right though I felt Finnan was almost on a par with the others on 6. Harte barely deserved a 4 as does Henderson.
Wayne Henderson: 0
Steve Finnan: 0
John O’Shea: 0
Richard Dunne: 0
Ian Harte: 0
Damien Duff: 0
Lee Carsley: 0
Stephen Ireland: 0
Kevin Kilbane: 0
Robbie Keane: 0
Shane Long: 0
Subs:
Paul McShane: 0
Stephen Hunt: 0
Anthony Stokes: 0
Would be a far more accurate reflection I feel ;)
How could you give one of those muppetts a 7 :eek:
Against San Marino :eek:
Come on. Not every ex-pro is cut out to be a manager. He hasn't got the brains for it. He doesn't notice what is going wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Is 4 the lowest rating they can give? No way did Harte deserve a 1.
I'm sitting here in work and have the feeling of having lost a game. I'm really annoyed at having watched that crap last night and have that sinking feeling in my gut whenever my team loses a game. Its like the Cyprus game all over again. And I know we got the 3 points, but points dont matter at this stage as we wont qualify, so that result last night is like a loss to me.
And to compound matters and make it worse, listening to that drivel being said by stan the gaffer after the game made me sick. Everyone knows at this stage what he said, but i would have had slightly more respect for him if he came out and said 'it wasnt good enough. we should be winning these games comfortably. We know the fans will be unhappy'. But no, Delaneys puppet comes out and talks about heart, and spirit and hard to handle teams.
Wayne Henderson: 0
Steve Finnan: 1
John O’Shea: 0
Richard Dunne: 0
Ian Harte: -4
Damien Duff: 0
Lee Carsley: 0
Stephen Ireland: 1
Kevin Kilbane: 1
Robbie Keane: -3
Shane Long: 0
Subs:
Paul McShane: 0
Stephen Hunt: 0
Anthony Stokes: 0
The worst point of last night was the fact I junped out of my seat to celebrate a goal against San Marino. (In my defence I immediately felt a bit of a prat). I think there's a lot of us who want Stan out but cant stand having a draw against San Marino on our records.
One thought I had was that this team thinks playing teams like this with no players they've ever heard of is beneath them. They drifted around in the first half thinking about their new cars. Then when they heard the booing at half time they put in a few minutes of effort and scored. But then they just went back to sleep. The fact we could have had 2/3 goals after the equaliser is not a good sign. If they had been bothered they would have played like this the whole game, only the possibility of humiliation made them play properly.
Then thing is that seemed to effect them all even guys like Shane Long. This must be the manager's fault, the team is just not in the right frame of mind.
actually thats about right - Duff though 1 ?
Wayne Henderson - could he be sued in a court of law for impersonating a professional goalkeeper ?
A half decent U 19 team even!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy