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02/06/2005, 12:07 PM
tetsujin1979

Finnan lives in Liverpool, that makes it his home.
02/06/2005, 1:01 PM
mjpcc

I know of no other country in the UEFA top 50 where all the players in the SQUAD play in foreign leagues. In our case it is even worse as they almost all play in one foreign league.

I am not knocking the EPL - it is a very good league and we would be lost without it. However, I do think it is not good that we are not able to produce some home based players. We have no excuse any more as there is plenty of money in Ireland to develop the game. :(
02/06/2005, 7:40 PM
tricky_colour

Quote:

Originally Posted by �anna

Great headline on aertel last night "Finnan returns home for treatment" Only in Ireland would an international leave the country he is representing to go home :rolleyes:

Thats not quite true though is it, what about say David Beckham or
Micheal Owen or............(lists 75% of the premiership players).
02/06/2005, 9:58 PM
Donal81

Finnan was largely raised in England anyway so I don't see what the point of all this is!
03/06/2005, 7:39 AM
noby

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Thats not quite true though is it, what about say David Beckham or
Micheal Owen or............(lists 75% of the premiership players).

In the case of Michael Owen, he'd go home to Wales.
03/06/2005, 4:21 PM
TerryPhelan

Finnan ruled out of tomorrow's game

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/06/03/story205536.html

Finnan's fate confirmed but he hopes to face Faroes
03/06/2005 - 16:02:56

Liverpool defender Steve Finnan has been ruled out of the Republic of Ireland�s World Cup qualifier with Israel tomorrow.

The player has failed to recover from a thigh injury sustained in last week�s Champions League final in Istanbul.

Ireland manager Brian Kerr is confident the Limerick born defender will be fit in time to face the Faroe Islands next Wednesday.

Kerr would not be drawn today at a press conference this afternoon at Lansdowne Road as to a defensive reshuffle.

The absence of Steve Carr and now Finnan means the right-back berth could be filled by Manchester United player John O�Shea or Steven Reid of Blackburn Rovers, with Ian Harte making a return to international duty.

:(
03/06/2005, 6:17 PM
gaf1983

steven reid's the man for the job. anyway israel don't have a right back. ireland to win 2 nil. :eek:
14/06/2005, 9:14 AM
brine3

Finnan arrested.

I hope this isn't true.

I always thought he was one of the most responsible guys in the squad, but wha t do I know...
14/06/2005, 9:19 AM
gustavo

its here too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...de/4090868.stm

we should reserve judgement at this time.
14/06/2005, 9:28 AM
brine3

I wonder is he the first player to win the Champions League on bail.
14/06/2005, 9:39 AM
eirebhoy

I remember reading this in the papers after the man died. He supposedly walked out in front of Finnan's car. I doubt he'll be charged.
14/06/2005, 9:42 AM
Peadar

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I doubt he'll be charged.

I remember it too.
I think Finnan stayed at the scene and helped the police with their enquiries.
14/06/2005, 9:43 AM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I remember reading this in the papers after the man died. He supposedly walked out in front of Finnan's car. I doubt he'll be charged.

Trying not to comment on the case, but that would depend on how fast the car was travelling....
14/06/2005, 9:54 AM
eirebhoy

The husband of that woman who was murdered in Naul was arrested because he he wasn't shown very many emotions while the parents of the woman were crying next to him. People are arrested for all sorts of things and when a footballer knocks down someone the first thing that comes into people's head is speeding or drink driving.
14/06/2005, 9:54 AM
KK77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peadar

I remember it too.
I think Finnan stayed at the scene and helped the police with their enquiries.

All this is true he did indeed stay at the scene and help. The old boy walked out in front of him but as mentioned above it now depends on how fast his car was going regardless. Happened at the Tuebrook junction on Jan 27 he wasn't arrested til April 11 bailed til June 29 when he will be told if a case will be taken against him.
14/06/2005, 9:58 AM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

People are arrested for all sorts of things and when a footballer knocks down someone the first thing that comes into people's head is speeding or drink driving.

No, the first thing that comes into someone's head when anyone is arrested for dangerous driving is speeding. It's irrelevant whether it's a footballer or not.
14/06/2005, 10:13 AM
livehead1

please god i hope this aint true...and the police said the man was "from liverpool" :rolleyes:
14/06/2005, 10:19 AM
tiktok

Quote:

Originally Posted by livehead1

please god i hope this aint true...and the police said the man was "from liverpool" :rolleyes:

I'd imagine the address he gave in his statement was in Liverpool.
14/06/2005, 10:23 AM
joeSoap

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

The husband of that woman who was murdered in Naul was arrested because he he wasn't shown very many emotions while the parents of the woman were crying next to him.

I think you'll find that he was arrested for a little bit more than that.. :rolleyes:
14/06/2005, 10:25 AM
drummerboy

Seemingly the old aged pensioner walked out in front of him. Unfortunately, Steve was stupedly on his mobile at the time. He could get a jail term.
14/06/2005, 10:32 AM
Peadar

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

I think you'll find that he was arrested for a little bit more than that.. :rolleyes:

No, the file sent to the DPP, read, "husband not sad enough, must be guilty!" :rolleyes:
14/06/2005, 10:35 AM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peadar

No, the file sent to the DPP, read, "husband not sad enough, must be guilty!" :rolleyes:

I thought it said "Herald says so, must be true"?
14/06/2005, 11:21 AM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeSoap

I think you'll find that he was arrested for a little bit more than that.. :rolleyes:

Well basically, the police don't need 3 witnesses phoning them telling them they seen Finnan speeding. They are arresting him as someone was killed. I've very little doubt he'll get off without charge.
14/06/2005, 12:34 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peadar

I think Finnan stayed at the scene and helped the police with their enquiries.

Very much hope so. Remember Lee Hughes?
14/06/2005, 2:20 PM
KK77

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Very much hope so. Remember Lee Hughes?

Slight bit different!!!!!! by about 20 pints of alcohol!!!!!!!
14/06/2005, 2:23 PM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Well basically, the police don't need 3 witnesses phoning them telling them they seen Finnan speeding. They are arresting him as someone was killed. I've very little doubt he'll get off without charge.

Sure the skid marks will show how fast he was going....

If he's charged he remains innocent until proven guilty.
14/06/2005, 2:35 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Slight bit different!!!!!! by about 20 pints of alcohol!!!!!!!

Not really. Killing someone on the roads is still killing someone on the roads. The important question in both cases is whether the driver was responsible.
14/06/2005, 2:40 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Lee Hughes got what he deserved.

True, but at this stage, we don't know what Finnan deserves... :(

I would have thought death by dangerous driving would be pretty much as serious as death by drunken driving...?
14/06/2005, 5:15 PM
sligoman

He's out!

"He was bailed pending further inquiries to appear at a police station on Wednesday June 29."
14/06/2005, 5:17 PM
sligoman

Just read a article about what happened and discovered Finnan is 29 :eek: . I could'nt believe that, I thought at most he was 25.
14/06/2005, 6:44 PM
Eirambler

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Just read a article about what happened and discovered Finnan is 29 :eek: . I could'nt believe that, I thought at most he was 25.

Ya, he went the long way around. Played non-league for a while and then for Notts County for a few years.

Even if he is charged and gets off later, he might be dropped from the squad for a while, like Graham Stack. We might not have him for September.
14/06/2005, 7:03 PM
jimbob117

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Originally Posted by Eirambler

Even if he is charged and gets off later, he might be dropped from the squad for a while, like Graham Stack. We might not have him for September.

I dont think he will be or should be. If its an accident then he shouldnt be punished. obviously if he is guilty,he deserves everything he gets but lets wait and see till the verdict is delivered.
14/06/2005, 7:56 PM
tricky_colour

Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy

Seemingly the old aged pensioner walked out in front of him. Unfortunately, Steve was stupedly on his mobile at the time. He could get a jail term.

Blimey, everyoe seems to have missed this most relevant point, was he on his
mobile phone?
Maybe they missed it because you stupidly spelt stupidly stupedly.

This seems to fit the facts better than any other explaination.

Anymore info on this?

Is it a crime to use a mobile phone in a car and if so since when?
I guess it could be deemed dangerous or careless anyway.

Also what is the speed limit in that area? I assume its a built up area.

How do they know he was on a moblie phone?
Did he admit it?

I assume if you do hit someone whilst talking on a phone the first thing you do is to let the other party know.

Also the police will do tests etc.... if there are no skid marks before
he hit the guy then that suggests he was not concentrating.
14/06/2005, 8:05 PM
tricky_colour

http://anfieldroad.com/news/2005/106...6/showitem.php

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...653741,00.html

"Lee Hughes, the West Bromwich Albion forward, was jailed for six years in August last year after being found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving. Hughes fled the scene of a collision near Coventry in November 2003 in which a 56-year-old man was killed."

I assume Hughes was suspected of being drunk at the time?
14/06/2005, 8:14 PM
Eirambler

Cant remember if he was drunk but one of the main things was that he drove off. At least Finnan didnt do that, might come in his favour
14/06/2005, 8:45 PM
Armando

Quote:

Originally Posted by brine3

I wonder is he the first player to win the Champions League on bail.

No, I know of one other - Patrick Kluivert.
http://patrick-kluivert.biography.ms/
14/06/2005, 9:07 PM
4tothefloor

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

I assume Hughes was suspected of being drunk at the time?

He was just after leaving a party when he knocked down and killed his victim. He was drunk out of his head leaving the party, and got what he deserved.

Finnan's case is very different and could happen to anyone. There is no proof he was on the phone, it's only rumour. I do know that Finnan was inconsolable after the incident and missed training and games for Liverpool at the time because of it.
14/06/2005, 9:25 PM
tricky_colour

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

He was just after leaving a party when he knocked down and killed his victim. He was drunk out of his head leaving the party, and got what he deserved.

Finnan's case is very different and could happen to anyone. There is no proof he was on the phone, it's only rumour. I do know that Finnan was inconsolable after the incident and missed training and games for Liverpool at the time because of it.

I don't know if he was using his mobile at the time either but it would help
to explain the dangerous driving aspect of he case, I assume he was
drunk at the time as that is not mentioned, neither is speeding, mind you
neither is a mobile phone. However what is certain is that the police will
be able to check his mobile phone records with the phone company
to see if he was makinig a call at about that time.
The timiing of the accident might not be certain however with the amount
of road cameras about the police will have a very good idea of whether
he was using the phone when he was driving. They will also be able to trace
who he was speaking too and that person would have a very good idea
that something unusul had happened. Indeed if you did have an accident
whilst driving using a phone it is human nature that you would mention it
to the person you were speaking too.
This is all just speculation of course but if is the sort of thing that could
happen to anyone. Thousands of people drive whilst using mobile
phones, it's just unfortunate if someone steps out on to the road at the time.
14/06/2005, 9:32 PM
Dan K

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Is it a crime to use a mobile phone in a car and if so since when?

It is here in the UK (unless you use a hands free kit) and has been for about 2 years.
14/06/2005, 9:48 PM
brine3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armando

No, I know of one other - Patrick Kluivert.
http://patrick-kluivert.biography.ms/

Of course, how could I forget, living in Amsterdam and following Ajax for 10 years now.

Steve Finnan isn't even the first player to win the Champions League on bail for a motor vehicle accident involving a death.

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