I am thinking of proposing that anyone who thinks Connolly worthy of another Ireland cap be ejected from this site as would be better off moving to a putt.ie to discuss golf.
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I am thinking of proposing that anyone who thinks Connolly worthy of another Ireland cap be ejected from this site as would be better off moving to a putt.ie to discuss golf.
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On current form, who would you have ahead of him?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Keane's only just started scoring, Doyle is just back from injury, Stokes is in and out of the side at Sunderland, Clinton is back scoring for Palace (after a long period out of favor), Keogh hasn't scored since moving to Sunderland, Murphy is not getting games.
Connolly has scored a goal every other game he's played for Sunderland since November, and certainly deserves his place in the squad
In no particular orderQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
- Keane, Doyle, Morrison, Stokes, Long, Keogh, Ward, Byrne, Crowe, O'Donovan, Doherty, Elliot, Reid, Duff.
When Connolly was crap for Ireland he always looked good in the Championship. Once he moves up a level he has always been crap & always will be. He was consistently crap for Ireland excluding the odd ok game which is why managers have consistently ignored him. He gets sent off in important games & moans to the media when omitted from squads.
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Read my question again - on current form, who would you have ahead of him?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Apart from Keane, and possibly Ward, none of those are in any sort of form at the moment.
Doherty is not a striker, end of story
Elliot is out after an ankle operation
Reid is still out with a hamstring (I'm presuming Andy Reid)
Duff has been shown to be woefully ineffective up front, compared to his impact in a game playing on the wing
wasnt connolly the player who asked for keane to be brought back in saipan?
wonder does keane feel he owes him.
you should pick the form players.
connolly has done no worse or no better than robbie keane and keane seems to be totally undroppable while connolly cant make a squad.
would pick him and put him on the bench with doyle up front and robbie or andy reid playing in front of the midfield.
connolly might offer something coming off the bench. he cant have too many complaints about not starting as he has been given a lot of chances and apart from once v romania away he has never really took them.
but if he is scoring goals he should be able to make the squad. offers more than alan o brien.
stokes had a good game against Birmingham and the only reasons he has been in and out of the team have been due to injury and more recently due to a training time mix up. anyone want to offer me odds on Connolly being shipped out to Watford when Sunderland go up in the summer. And when watford go up the following season he will be sold again to whoever gets relegated from the premiership. Simply put Connolly is a genius at Championship level and a mug at any level above that.
yeah apparently they were good buds during their time with éire.
I dont agree that keane should be undroppable but surely you cant back up that claim that Connolly has done no worse or not better than Robbie Keane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
how many games has he played? or more importantly how many bad games has keane played without his place being in jeoprady...
open to correction but last two games I remember connolly playing were swiss away(collective poor performance) and spain in the WC...hardly a lot of games there?
Turkey at home, 2-2. Connolly opened the scoring, and played out of his skin.
They have the same agent (Advisor Lawyer or whatever he is) Micheal Kennedy.
A very shrewd low risk signing by Keane given his record at Championship level and Keanes personal exposure to him in squads. Nothing more, even if they are 'Buds' I sincerely doubt that would be a factor.
Connolly on form should be in the squad.
How quickly people forget. David Connolly is cr*p at International level. Always was and always will be. He was the John O'Shea of his day. Always on the teamsheet (in the early years) but never contributing anything of note to justify his being there.
His performances ranged from the inconspicuous to the plain terrible against anyone other than p*ss poor opposition. This nonsense about calling him up because we are going through a (very) bad patch is being supported by many of the same people who were pushing for O'Shea to be a mainstay of our midfield at the end of last season after Ferguson was forced to put him there due to injuries to other players. This despite his previous 36 consecutive terrible performances in an Ireland shirt. I see he has really made that position his own this season at United and again has continued in his rich vein of form for Ireland.
The goldfish brigade I call them.
Answer me this how can recalling a player who couldn't score for us when we were a better team (with admittedly poorer strikers though) who created far more chances for our strikers than we do now possibly help us in the situation we find ourselves in? And as for Connolly being on form. Anyone who knows anything about the player would realise he has always been on form playing in poorer leagues against poorer quality opposition (Wimbledon, West Ham, Watford, Excelsior) while he was always struggled when playing at higher levels (Ireland, Feyenord, Wigan). Get a clue.
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Originally Posted by youngirish
Playing devil's advocate here , but maybe because he is a better player now than he was then?
:rolleyes: O.K Young Irish
You forgot his loan spell at wolves and his time at Leicester!
We're all deluded in believing Wavey Davey Connolly is the world beater up front we've been waiting fpr aren't we... Living in the land of Chocolate on Lollypop lane!!... Following the Keane band wagon like lttle automotan droids
Or is it that he's easliy one of the 23 best performing Irish players in Club football at the moment. Or more to the point one of the 4 best performing forwards at the moment... And not just his goals.
It's nothing to do with forgetting. Connolly has been crap beside Robbie Keane and Keane hasn't been much better. When he's not partnering Keane he's far from crap. As for not scoring for us, 9 goals in 20-25 starts isn't a bad return. We bring up his goalscoring and he gets stick because he scored 3 of them against Liechtenstein. If it was that easy it wouldn't have taken 10 years for another Irish player to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
and who are Wales and Slovakia's centre back pairings? Rob Edwards? Danny Gabbidon? Hardly Fabio Cannavaro.Quote:
Originally Posted by FootballsKing
And Stan Varga and Martin Petras hardly inspire deep seated fear in centre forwards either (that said, i think Varga, training with Connolly, should be smart enough to figure out how to stop him or Stokes for that matter).
When we get drawn against Liechtenstein Connoy can come back.
A big striker of his ability would be a shoo-in. However we have a number of tricky, relatively little strikers and so I can see no benefit of having him ahead of Keane, Doyle, Stokes etc etc.
cavan_fan, you missed a glorious "insert Cillian Sheridan plug here" opportunity there...
I take this as read, in fact both Sheridan and Dixon are big lads, it's the Cavan genes.Quote:
Originally Posted by republicofwhite
Are they mean bas*ards aswell?Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
we should be playing our form strikers and connolly is deffinitely that .. And a little bit off the point but as mentioned earlier if people think Stokes was dropped just for a training mix up they are a long way off the mark. Connolly is full of confidence and on great form so should be picked end of. We dont have a wealth of choice and connolly keane and doyle should be fighting it out for the 2 striking positions.. But no lets just pick andy keogh in the squad or stokes who have not scored for their new clubs yet ..
zidane - I appreciate you backing Connolly up but you're using Stokes unfairly to help your argument imo. You're a Sunderland fan, you should know that Stokes has scored for you. You should also know he played very well on the left wing against Birmingham. You said last week that he was dropped from the squad for disciplinary reasons, that's fair enough. He certainly wasn't dropped from the squad due to form. You know that.
care to expand on the stokes discipline incident-havent heard about this
Connolly fighting it out for one of our two striking positions with Keane and Doyle? Is glue still the in thing up in Sunderland? Zinedineontour you wouldn't even utter a whisper about Staunton touching Connolly with a barge pole if he wasn't a regular starter for your beloved Sunderland. I don't remember you harping on about his inclusion in previous squads when he was playing for Wigan or Leicester. Try not to be so partisan you remind me of Phil Thompson watching Liverpool on Soccer Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by zinedineontour
As for the reason Stokes being dropped, who gives a sh*t? All he's done so far is score a few goals for a rubbish team in a rubbish league and as I said at the time I could bang in goals against Dunfermiline and Inverness if you stuck me up front for a few games. He's done nothing at a decent level yet and until that changes the fact he's been kept out of the team by Connolly should mean nothing whether it's due to ability or otherwise.
Dont be such a ****.......if u are such a great player then why arent u in contention for the ireland squad??? he was talking about Connolly on his current form....and in recent times he's shown better form than most irish strikers, all be it in the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Since when do you have to be a great player to score goals against the opposition I mentioned? I thought this was the point. I'll try to make it clearer next time. I'll stick an explanation at the bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by nui-harp
Stokes is still the 2nd highest scorer in the SPL. :D Seriously, I think youngirish just likes to troll. I've posted plenty of facts to show that only proven strikers have scored at a similar rate to Stokes in the SPL. He likes to ignore that. And it's pretty obvious to me how good, and intelligient, a player Stokes is. If a player could score around 20 goals a season in the SPL and managed 3 goals in 25 Championship games you'd be wetting yourself to mention it to me. ;) See if you can work out who I'm referring to. :)
John Hartson isn't far off that though I think he has 6 goals and slighly less appearances (but not much).Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
John Hartson might aswell be retired. :) Suprised he even has 6 goals tbh. He puts on weight 10 times the rate Ronaldo does. ;)
It was alledged he was dropped because he was late for training although Keane says this was not the case and that he chose the strike force which was most suited to the opposition on the day. Who knows what the truth is but I guess Stokes will be a little more punctual just in case ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
I agree regarding stokes and the reasons he was dropped was not for lack of form and yeah he did score against plymouth sorry .. Taking stokes out of the argument though connolly is the form Irish striker at the moment and cause i support sunderland obviously I have more interest and see him on a more regular basis but his work rate is first class and why a form striker in a decent league should not be in the ireland squad is beyond me ?? people keep harping on to his previous times with the squad but we should pick those who are full of confidence and playin well ..Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Staunton is at the match, so I hope Connolly does well
Connolly is a fat little **** who thinks he's the best striker in the world since Batistuta. The fat little **** got sent off and cost us qualification. Move on. Once keano gets them promoted Connolly's on his way to another mediocre championship side. He's found his level (and Clinton) . Full stop.
Last time I checked, not only was he not fat, hes also on the best team in the championship (certainly in the last month)Quote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic
This is a stupid post. He was a kid oin the Belgian game, he made a mistake, its time to get over it. And if you want to blame anyone blame the linesman during that game who gave Belgium a throw that resulted in Luc Nilis's goial when it should have been Irelands throw. Keane has been singing Connollys praises. Wigan invested good money in him a couple of seasons back and if it were not for injuries he might have made it with them. And what makes you think he thinks he is 'the best striker in the world since Batistuta'. Are you basing that on what the genius that is Don Givens saidQuote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic
Yeah pretty much. Givens said that Connolly claimed he was Irelands number one striker, Robbie and Clint were on form at the time. Connolly, to my knowledge, did not deny that he said this.
After early promise Connolly lost form and is now playing at the level his talents deserve. He is identical, in many ways, to David Kelly. Excellent in 'Division Two' but not good enough for the top flight. He'll be on his way in June to Watford, Charlton or West Ham.
why the **** would keane sell our best striker in the summer ? The lad has improved immensely throughout the season and has been class. Will be deffo in our team next season premiership or championship ..Quote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic
well i cant wait to see the little angry ant knocking them in at Old Trafford and Anfield next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by zinedineontour
He goes from fat and pompous to little and angry, your brilliantQuote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic