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Welcome to Ireland! Where we'll make up for having awful roads, buses and trains by spaffing your money on heavily-subsidised internal flights for a tiny number of people, rather than invest in decent infrastructure so them flights aren't actually needed. But sure, aren't we a great bunch of lads altogether with our sky high GDP and expensive houses these days!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Ryanair Kerry flights are subsidised to the hilt and they don't pay duty on fuel...it stinks obviously...if they did Chinese style high speed rail you'd do the journey in an hour and clear the roads too
You can't have Chinese-style high-speed rail with an Irish-style population and distances. Just a vaguely normal train service would do the job. Its less than 300km, so should be possible in 2hrs/2hrs 30mins with very ordinary technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesie
Aye some price gouging there. 160 brick for a seat on the flight this morning. I went in 2023 and it was 40 return
Isn't 'dynamic pricing' wonderful. It's €56 at the moment for the next Dundalk visit in July.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Given it's subsidized that price today should be looked into by local reps, not good enough
That's capitalism for you in fairness.
Drogs 2161
Pats 4829
UCD 224
Wexford 848
Kerry 1195
1,378 in Limerick.
Are houses not cheap as chips up North with GDP not inflated by FDI. Ain't we building the A5 for yiz to scoot south in quicker times? Generous bunch that we are....if the cost of the A5, Casement money and the bridge linking warrenpoint to carlingford, sure all those yoyos could subsidise €5 train fares to all over and run free buses to kerry while bypassing a bunch of villages in the process.....Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Also not even the PD, this is FD, mental stuff, saw a few photos online, was a fairly decent size Ryanair plane too that most went on this am, at 09.05. The squad went by coach, but stayed over in Tralee on Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Def seems strange ok, flying to a LOI game.
What are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
You know they've one goes to Tibet...not known for its high population density. If you took a fraction off what's on the roads you'd easily fill those trainsQuote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
The train to Tibet is a political project though, to tie what is essentially stolen land into the Chinese state. The Chinese don't give a feck how few people live there, as that's not why they're doing it. These are the same people who are spending vast sums creating ridiculous new islands in the middle of the South China Sea, just so they can extend their territorial claims and put military planes on them. Surprise surprise - wealthy autocratic regimes don't operate by normal rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesie
And it's not about filling the trains in Ireland. It's about the crazy cost of installing it in the first place. You'd have to build an entirely new train network from scratch. Plus the fact that the distances in Ireland are so short that it would barely run at top speed anyway (so why bother?).
Holland has almost 4 times the population of Ireland and about 6/7 times its population density, over a much smaller land base, yet scrapped almost all of its high speed plans on the basis of cost. The only routes they have are the ones that go outside Holland to Belgium and Germany. And the Dutch love feckin' trains! If the Dutch can't make it work in a country with such a high population density and high usage of public transport, there's zero chance the Irish would.
Go do a government business case for high-speed rail in Ireland and see how heavily it gets laughed out of court.
Ah you know! You were talking about investment in infrastructure, te Irish Government is doing so in another jurisdiction ie te A5, a stadium and a very large bridge - that money spent on Irish infrasructure could go a long way toward decreasing travel times by road to the likes of Kerry or could increase rail capacity while reducing travel time. I really didnt think you'd need to have that cleared up EYG!Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
PREMIER
Cork City v Bohs - 5034
Derry City v Waterford - 2994
Drogs v Gamway United - 2161
Shels v Shamrock ;-) - 5214
Pats v Sligo - 4829
TOTAL - 20232
AVERAGE - 4046
FIRST
Wexford v Bray - 848
Kerry v Dundalk - 1195
Treaty v Harps - 1378
UCD v Cobh - 224
TOTAL - 3645
AVERAGE - 911
[QUOTE=ForeForeToo;2217140]PREMIER
Cork City v Bohs - 5034
Derry City v Waterford - 2994
Drogs v Gamway United - 2161
Shels v Shamrock ;-) - 5214
Pats v Sligo - 4829
TOTAL - 20232
AVERAGE - 4046
I am around long enough to realise a 4k average is brilliant....but is the Cork and Derry crowds a bit disappointing?
Mad to think crowds that size are a bit disappointing to some, but our crowds would be even bigger if not for the saucy enough ticket prices.
I know, and feel a bit stupid saying it, but you may have answered it - if it was 20 rather than 25, and so on for other categories the cross would havesold out?Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
I would say that if the ticket prices were at that level, then I'd imagine both home games would've been sell outs.Quote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
Brandywell was sold out. Has been for almost every game for the past few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ltfc
Not sure how the official figures are come to, as I think the capacity is 3.5k at present.
The new stand will add almost 3k capacity, badly needed.
684 LTFC v ATFC
On this occasion I think our attendance was higher than that, looked a lot more than the Bray game, including about 100 from Athlone.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
If Drogs capacity is now 2,300 (not sure if it is), they have still not hit this, think its 2,100 and 2,200 crowds so far, and 100 away fans Galway, think 300 Sligo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
My point is they were saying last year, its all they could get in, around 2k, but if the capacity is 2.3k that has not been reached out, so figures not adding up. I do like their new bar mind, used to like watching games from there in the 90's - pre segregation times, super view, amazed it was closed 10+ years, such a big loss of revenue.
New bar will be for hospitality only from next game on but there is a new bar behind the far goal and you can watch the game from there too.
They would need the away fans to sell out their allocation ofc, the home end could be a sellout every game otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Yeah the away allocation up there has been 600 in previous years, unless that’s changed this year which is unlikely given the vast majority of that is the away terraceQuote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Drogheda have installed 200 new seats on the far side, they will rarely be filled as a lot of people stand in the ultras section over there
I think droghedas capacity is now 2500 (up from 2300 last season with the new seats ) . the home end is selling out every week ( and in the case of the rovers game 2 weeks ahead of time !) . The attendance for the Sligo game was 2200 ish and they had 200 fans there so that would leave 300 or so unsold away end tickets – its not rocket science !Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
We will know for sure what the full capacity is when we play rovers on friday week as the away end and home ends will both be sold out . . .
4023 I think announced at the Showgrounds.
3017 at the RSC last night.
4,884 at Pats Derry
https://x.com/stpatsfc/status/1896676040019448245?s=46
A very good attendance all things considered. Monday night, lost first 3 games and conceded 10 goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
Shamrock brought good support,a few hundred.
Brilliant attendances for a Monday night all round it seems. Could be set for over a 4k average this Friday as well with Rovers-Pats in Tallaght
4,850 season tickets sold in advance of our first home match this evening - incredible
Thats an amazing figure
Amazing season ticket sales from Rovers. Any idea how much is that worth, gotta be more than 1m.
Rovers confirm they’ve cancelled over 200 tickets that Pats fans bought for the home end for tonight after the away tickets were snapped up in what’s a much smaller allocation than recent years of 950. Probably checked email addresses that bought in the away end in the past. An inconvenience for plenty but I know of lads that have just rebooked home tickets under family members details and are still heading into the home end
https://www.the42.ie/shamrock-rovers...urce=shortlink
3218 at the RSC v Bohs tonight.