slovakia was actually good compared to this though. we had 2 sitters and should/could have won that game. tonight was hopeless stuff on the pitch and on the line from 20 min markQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
slovakia was actually good compared to this though. we had 2 sitters and should/could have won that game. tonight was hopeless stuff on the pitch and on the line from 20 min markQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I'm not taking delight at all and never do but I never understood how people saw things that weren't there to see and I genuinely want/wanted to understand that.
Basically the period when the subs came on, further questioning why they weren’t on at halftime.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
If we play the same front 3 as we did versus Scotland I will seriously question Kenny’s mental sanity because at this point it should only take common sense to see that changes are desperately needed.
And that was when we had moderately close to first team out, whereas now conveniently just like previous poor windows we’ve had a suspiciously high number of injury pull outs…if I was a cynic I’d be saying are these players getting “injuries” to get out of Ireland camp without outright refusing? I’m noticing a pattern…Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
Collins in front of two Centre halves could very well work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
We need 3 in Centre midfield for sure.
Hendrick is a good player but needs more solid player beside him I think.
Cullen is solid but they both are swamped in midfield.
I would consider maybe a 4-3-2-1 formation to tweak this team.
We do some things well but ultimately it’s not working.
Perhaps Barry’s absence is the reason we are falling flat
Well said. I have turned the corner completely. The little bit of hope i had that we had finally turned the corner has been ripped to pieces since Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
His interview was a disaster too. Before and after the game he was asked a fairly easy question during each interview and could barely answer (pre game: what do you think we need to do better compared to Armenia? He got spooked, rambled for 2 minutes, and ended up saying nothing and not answering the question // post game: do you think our players were less fit than Ukraine? He asked what is the question, got spooked, then got defensive and rambled). Not sure its the signs of a man under pressure as he has never been good in front of a camera but it doesnt help and you'd think that it might damage his credibility with the players.
only bazunu is missing? the rest are long term injuries??Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Except how many windows is that now? It’s okay if it’s one window or two but it’s got to the point where we are probably one or two injuries away from this being Ireland B…and not for the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
Was surprised anyone thought we’d win easy tonight after watching us on Saturday,even Ukraine’s reserves are better players than us and you can see that in how they pass the ball and move,I thought we noticeably went long quite a lot for the first 70 odd minutes but then it was just praying Duffy would get his head on a cross,there was zero patterns of play for the most part and it feels like the end is near for SK now,I really hoped it would work out for him but that hope is gone for me now……
I didnt listen to his interview, I had to turn it off on final whistle. Hes never been great in front of the cameras, but he did get the respect of the players. That was obvious from the beginning so I couldnt really care less how he looked with the media. Today didnt look like he lost the player or anything like that, we just looked completely disorganized and players not in right positionsQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Who are we talking about? The two lads at Norwich haven't played in a long time. Doherty has only missed this window. Coleman and Bazunu have been injured in recent days. Who's left?Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Connolly another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Another thing, the so called leaders need to be told to …you know…lead for be shown the door. Kenny got a lot wrong tonight but for the Irish defence to let that ball bounce with their experience is unforgivable, you know they would never do it for their clubs…
I thought he was just dropped, to be honest. He had a rubbish loan spell by all accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Kenny should be dismissed with immediate effect but that's gonna be a riot. His fate is after these two more games, he just can't turn the corner.
Connolly's dropped, not injuredQuote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
We've lots of problems, but lads withdrawing with fake injuries isn't one of them
But I also find these injuries also coincide with the players not really lifting a finger when they do show up, I mean the Ukraine goal tonight is case and point.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
This isnt an Ireland B due to injuries. Yes there are some important players out. Matt Doherty chief amongst them. Hes been Irelands best player under Kenny and its curious how little talk there was in any analysis before these games about him being missed. He is huge for us. I do think there are other players that make a difference. Idah for example I think is excellent, and was just getting into good premiership form when his injury hit. All that said though, you have to play the cards that you have properly and in both of these games we havent done that. Thats on the manager, not missing players
The problem isn't the defence. We'll always concede goals - everyone does - and we're not conceding too many. You can nearly always complain about the specifics of any given goal. It's just that we can't score, at all. Robinson's two-games mirabilis aside, we're depending on headers from set pieces, and desperately little else.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
That's really clutching at straws tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
This article looks even more ridiculous now than it did when we discussed it about 12 hours ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
It's gone. Was clear to see tonight, no urgency or effort, Ukraine strolled home in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamo kerry
But that’s another issue, we for the first time in awhile have a player with genuine potential to be that goal scorer for Ireland…and he’s left on the bench until the final 20 minutes…please make that make sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Just noticing a pattern, I always remember N Ireland under Michael O’Neill when they were in the 100s for instance had the same issues until ironically they started getting results…Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
we are not missing players to mysterious injuries. all are long-term bar bazunu. connolly has been shocking for the best part of 18 months now. who else is there?Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
that felt like an end of managerial reign performane to be honest. after a decent start any belief the players had dissapeared after about 10 mins
Have backed the Kenny experiment all the way. Felt it was worthwhile to change approach and bed in some new guys when we had little other choice. Enjoyed seeing us pass the ball, keep it a bit, and create a few chances per game. It was nice when we got a couple of wins last year to lift the gloom. But for whatever reason after tonight I feel I'm done with this regime now. I hate football supporters who have the knives out early and are all I told you so when things inevitably go south. We can criticise but we support first and foremost. But the time is up on Kenny now in my opinion. Not sure what the next step should be but there needs to be a change.
We were a shambles at the end - a ramshackle, shapeless mess.
Browne brought on as a wingback? What on Earth was the thinking there?
Definitely had an 'end of reign' feel to it.
Not sure what the atmosphere sounded like on tv, but there was a "there's only one Stephen Kenny" chant towards the end of the second half. it didn't last long, and there wasn't many of the singing section joining in.
If fan support is starting to ebb, we might be closer to the end than the beginning of his time in charge
Livetv.com resolves to nothing. Provide the actual site or I'll delete everything you've posted in the last 24 hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
It must end after Scotland and the other match, he did some good stuff from defence but attack is a shame as someone wrote If you can't score you can't win matches, we conceded less goals yet they are enough since we can't put it ours away. Kenny out Bring jobless Marcelo
That's the website is illegal man , do you want the links a photo?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I expected some booing at the end but there was very little, if any.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I also expected a bit of support for the inevitable "Lump it up to Duffy" conclusion, but again, little enough going.
It felt like fatigue more than anything else. An "I've watched this game before" vibe
Imagine what Ukraine’s ‘first’ team are going to do to us next week,might give it a miss tbh….
The fate is after Kenny. The whole match bar the last 15 was abysmal no urgency, no imagination no desperation for winning, crazy stuff.
DM me a linkQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
I was really close to posting something very similar to this after about 65/70 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
This might be my shortest review ever.
Collins was good at the back. Obafemi added a bit of energy when he came on. Knight was good for 5 minutes, but crap for the next 85.
Everyone else was crap. Duffy was even worse than that.
Ok i ve the photos toó of 2 websites , compañero.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
To sum this up the Rep of Ireland wins this kind of matches( again a 2nd string team full of substitutes, not playing professionally for war, beaten because last Sunday worn out because of 3 games in a week etc). You win it with desire with football with craft speed accuracy Creativity talent etc... But before anything with ball character strong personality and mentality. Put them under pressure, overwhelm them don't let them be, make it torrid for them.
For me is very easy get in touch with the guys at Leeds, offer something with professionalism and criteria to Mr. Bielsa, the name of Bielsa was rumored alongside Cuper before O'Neill I remembered. Bielsa is the right man at the right time to put this mess in order. Kenny is not the main man, sadly he doesn't even show urgency from the bench.
Travers, Collins, Egan (Duffy if Egan out), O’Shea, Ebosele, McClean, Cullen, Molumby (a bit more bite, dynamism and enthusiasm, finished season well), Parrott, Knight, Obafemi.
This is your team Stephen for the next two games if you want to try to get a performance, a result and get fans back on your side. Thank you.