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Live stream of France(Ireland's last opponent) V Australia(Ireland's next competitive opponent) on YouTube at 10:30
Australia won 1-0. Meanwhile the behind closed doors friendly with Colombia was abandoned after 20mins after becoming too physical. Denise O'Sullivan was taken to hospital with a shin injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Friendly with Columbia Womens team I presume?Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Are they in WC?
Very much against the run of play, France were the better team. Australia looked to contain in their own half, and then break with Kerr, Vine, and Foord. Vine was causing problems with her pace in the first half, was surprised she went off at half time for Fowler. Goal came from a run down the right from Raso, who found Fowler in a load of space in the box to score from near the penalty spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
France had Australia pinned back in their own half for long periods, and really should have taken something from this game. When they did get forward, Australia looked disorganised in their own box, and vulnerable on the right side of defence.
Yeah, they're in Group H against Germany, Morocco, and South KoreaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...122599026.html
Is anyone else slightly embarrassed over this?
From the footage there, it looks like she gets hit in the ankle, but it's not great quality so hard to tell
It looks like there's possibly an elbow as afters too
But I agree with Diggs. It's the ref's job to ref the game. I know it was only a friendly, but you can't have players walking off the pitch at the first sight of an over-zealous tackle
I'm talking about the team walking off the pitch
The footage is fine btw
It's a strong challenge but nothing more than that tbh. Seems strange to walkout over that, would need to see the rest of the match footage to see how physical the Colombians were.
There was no attempt to play the ball, much more obvious in the stills. If it was a full friendly like last week's game vs France you'd get on with it and hope the ref shows a red card but this was just a training game behind closed doors and if the Columbians were just kicking players, they had already gotten 2 yellows, then it was the right thing to pack it in. Why would you want to keep going a risk injury to the players in a nothing game. I'm assuming that it wasn't an official game where players would have received a cap?
It's classed as a friendly on wiki anyway, same as the France game. I've seen it referred to as a training game too, but mostly by the Colombians and I wonder is that just a translation thing (after all, a friendly game is a training game really)Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
The other teams in our group now will know too up the physicality against us as we don't like it
It was an unofficial friendly using local officialw. Ireland were going to play two different lineups in each half. Nothing like the French game. It was intended as a warm up training game and the Colombians decided to take out our starting 11 with their reserve team. Dead right to walk and save the players from injury as the tournament starts on thursday.
Very funny to see people commenting about women's soccer with very little knowledge. The USA fans on the NWSL or women's soccer Reddit are still moaning about Ireland's physicality in the US friendlies. We are not a soft team at all, something was off here. Vera and the FAI decided to walk and protect the players, fair enough.
If the same thing happened for the men and someone sent Evan Ferguson to hospital 4 days before the world cup, I imagine the reaction would be different...
Its not about liking physicality or not, it's about not being stupid in a training game.
I heard Brian Kerr tell a story once about calling off a training game between The Dubs and The Culchies cos Roy wasn't happy being 4 nil down.
I wouldn't trust wiki as the source of it was an official game. I do think that if it was for official caps we'd be rightly open to sanctions for walking off
Wiki can be highly reliable in fairness.
But if, as LoIfan suggests, it was an unofficial game, then I've a bit more sympathy with it alright. But I don't agree this mightn't be used against the team.
(Though I don't agree with the Evan Ferguson comparison - Jason McAteer got a knock against a local side just before the 2002 tournament; we didn't walk off and there was no suggestion we should have)
Did the player target McAteer and go over top of ball like that? Was the rest of that game stupidly physical where the ref had already given out 2 yellows? We don't know, not all games are the same and comparing it to McAteer is just idiotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The U21s walked off against Kuwait recently too, should they have just gotten on with it cos other teams have put up with racism previously?
The Kuwait game is slightly different in fairness, though I do think it would have been better had the ref just taken action. It's what the ref is there for. (Incidentally, Kuwait deny the racism charge, although I don't know how plausible that really is).
Players reffing games themselves is open to manipulation, like that Champions League game where Istanbulspor Basaksehir walked off against PSG on a made-up racism accusation, which covered over the fact they'd been the ones making racist remarks themselves.
McAteer's injury was caused by a really bad tackle by a Cameroon player btw, so I reject your suggestion that the comparison is idiotic. Our opening game was against Cameroon of course.
At end of day this was about player safety in a meaningless training game. If the manager thought it was best not to risk her players going into a world cup then I don't think any of us keyboard warriors should even be debating it.
As for Kuwait denying the racism, Armstrong spoke about it last week. He said Killian Phillips went nuts when he heard it and Armstrong himself was almost more shocked... I believe him
As I say, I'm far more inclined to agree given it was an unofficial training game. But I generally don't agree with walking off - let the ref sort it. Ditto the racism thing - and I do reckon our guys' story is right, but the Kuwaitis will believe it was just a rough match (their FA's version) and so what have we really achieved? Just send the guy off and get on with it
But let's not pretend the Ferguson comment earlier is realistic. A very similar thing did happened the men's team, and there was no reaction or suggestion we should have walked off.
Jesus, just because there was a similar incident over 20 years ago doesn't mean anything. If we were playing a WC warm up game today and there were 2 footed challenges flying around and players risking injury the coaching staff would be irresponsible not to call it off. Stop trying to infer that men are tougher than the women so it wouldn't happen. If Ferguson got injured and missed a WC cup we'd all lose our sh1t.
I am ashamed that we have this woman in charge of the women's team.
Why? Cos she expected professional athletes to be in shape and someone got offended that she was called out for being fat? Do betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Is she the best we can do? She's banned from managing in the USA due to her well-documented abusive behavior, followed by her refusal to cooperate with the subsequent investigation.
We all know we're going to get hammered by Australia and Canada. What's the point in keeping Vera Pauw around when Alex Ferguson wouldn't get us out of the group?
Yet she was able to manage against the USA in 2 games recently. She has managed to get us to the WC for 1st time in our history and yet you want to dismiss that achievement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Her "well documented abusive behavior" sounded like just tough coaching in all the stories in The Athletic that I've read and it very much comes across that a few players who were out of team had a grudge. Let's end a person's career cos she said a professional athlete wasn't being professional enough to not be fat! Alex Ferguson who you mention said much worse to players.
The Irish players repect her and there has been zero allegations of any abusive behavior.
Course it does. Why on earth wouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
In not trying to infer anything - you're the one doing that - I'm just trying to reject LoIfan66's point. The McAteer incident explicitly does that
That tackle in isolation doesn't look like much, but who knows if it was in isolation.
We've all been at games where it looks like one team came out to rough the other up - I've no idea, but that may have been the case here, or at least, how the Irish management team viewed things.
A bit of a non-story tbh...apart from Irish people discussing it (understandably) nobody else really seems to care.
Two yellows in the first 20 minutes is the key aspect to this story, not the video. I imagine that was the last straw. If Colombia kept it up and one of them broke McCabe's leg, Pauw would be getting slaughtered for not ending it sooner.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
If Colombia came to kick the Irish players around, what would you learn? Better off having an 11 v 11 on the training ground.
To change the topic, poor Megan Campbell's column on RTE Sport is absolutely gut-wrenching. Personally, I would have brought her. If we need a point in the final game you'd love to have her throw-in at your disposal. Hopefully, we get to the Euros next so she can make for the disappointment.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/fifa-womens...f-missing-out/
To be fair it is probably the right decision. Even if she was physically for the final group game she wouldn't be match fit and chances are we are not going any further. Horrible timing for her but right decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
This has been on the front page of CNN for the last three days. It is the biggest story in world football. Not a peep on there about Messi signing with Inter Miami. This is a huge, huge news story.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Maybe in the US version, when I opened cnn.com there's nothing about it, the sports page - https://edition.cnn.com/sport - has Wimbledon, some golf, even the football only has the French viral video and an apology from the Spanish for the Haka, and MessiQuote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
This is 100% false. There's been absolutely nothing about it on CNN or any other media outlet. Seems like Colbert here is trying to take up with Mr Biesla left off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
I suspect that was sarcasm...
Poor attempt at itQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Ya know what, I apologize to Colbert. It is on CNN. I couldnt see it on the app this morning but its on the website, buried deep down but it is there.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/15/sport...ntl/index.html
It was on the front page all weekend here in the USA, no sarcasm.
Was that Hunter Biden's front page ? !Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Quick question - should there be match threads for each game Ireland play in the World Cup, or just continue with the single thread for the competition?
Been at seriously physical games, and played in them. Not once have I seen, or been on a team, that walked off.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Were they all friendlies a week out from a world cup?Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Not even just a friendly but a glorified training session more or less. England and Canada had similar in which they used roll on roll off subs like it was an u10s game.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Probably be easier to keep all the chat in one thread but I'd say individual threads for Ireland matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979