Aaron Ramsdale spent his age 20-21 season out on loan at AFC Wimbledon in League 1. There's no need for Bazunu to rush up the leagues. A #1 spot in the Championship and a new deal at City would be great.
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Aaron Ramsdale spent his age 20-21 season out on loan at AFC Wimbledon in League 1. There's no need for Bazunu to rush up the leagues. A #1 spot in the Championship and a new deal at City would be great.
I'd have no problem if he ended up at somewhere like Preston next year. As long as he's playing games the Championship is fine.
I think we're hoping he ends up being a better keeper than Ramsdale though so I would be aiming higher for him than where Ramsdale was at 20. Bournemouth fans think Travers was better this season than Ramsdale was in his last Bournemouth season incidentally.
Yeah I just want him playing. Championship would be great although if Travers starts performing as well as he has this season but at EPL level week in week out next season it will make the other thread interesting. I suppose we've already had a scenario where Travers and Bazunu were both playing well at different levels but I think it would be really hard to make Travers 3rd choice if he was an EPL starter and many would want him 1st choice.
If we think Travers and Kelleher are capable of playing in the Premiership then Bazunu absolutely is. I'd have no problem if he ended up at a Championship side next season but I think he's capable of playing anywhere to be honest.
I can't imagine him sitting on the bench at City. He has said recently that over the course of this loan he spoke with the City goalkeeper coach 2 or 3 times per week, so he's still getting the benefit of having access to top coaches wherever he plays.
To me Bazunu is like Nathan Collins, both will be top class and playing at big clubs in the next few years
Linked with moves to Everton, Southampton, and Bournemouth today: https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-41641334.html
Everton might be good, but only if Pickford leaves, Southampton would be interesting, and Bournmouth would mean that two of our goalkeepers are at the same club.
At least it would fairly well answer which one is better!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I think if Bournemouth were trying to sign him they obviously think Bazunu is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Ive seen comments in various places along the lines of "would he be 1st choice if he goes there", in regards to multiple clubs. I think a lot of people are seriously under estimating how highly rated Bazunu is. If he goes on a permanent transfer it is going to be for a very substantial fee that a club would only pay for a 1st choice keeper.
I wonder should Gavin hold back from moving this summer? Ederson looked a bit suspect at times today and from looking at City fans on Twitter today they aren’t as happy with him as I thought…
On the verge of a 10m move to Southampton according to Kenny's Kids. I think this would be a fantastic move as you'd fancy him to be challenging for the first team spot immediately.
Certainly a better shot-stopper than McCarthy, so absolutely no reason why he wouldn't be No 1 from the off.
Talk that Southampton are looking for a young no.2 who can challenge for the no.1 jersey so might not go straight in as no.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
Hopefully it works out for him because Southampton are rank, and will need more than just a keeper if they're to avoid getting sucked into a relegation battle. Only finished 5pts ahead of Burnley in the table and had the fourth most goals conceded.
Forster has gone to Spurs now I think so it'd be McCarthy he'll need to displace. Definitely capable of that.
100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Southampton do not spend 10 mill on a sub
Maybe a Submarine ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I know what you're saying but they'll sign fringy players like Adam Armstrong and Djenepro for £15mQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
As for keepers, I present you Angus Gunn. Bought by Southampton from Man City for £13.5m aged 22, back in 2018. Played 22 premier league games across 3 seasons (with a loan to Stoke in towards the end) before being sold to Norwich for £5m last summer, where he was second choice to Tim Krul and played 9 games.
After signing for Southampton, Alex McCarthy started the season in goal, winning man of the match of the first game of the season. Gunn eventually made his premier league debut in January but didn't keep the place for long.
It's entirely possible they're envisioning Bazunu being second choice for a season or two before taking over as first choice. £10m is very cheap for a first choice premier league keeper and it's possible they feel they've found someone who can play the position in the future and are acting quickly now, while he's still cheap
I think it's ten mill with add-ons isn't it?
So if he sits on the bench, then it'd be much less.
Burnley spent the same on Collins and then didn't play him for the first half of the season.
But in general, can't be a bad move at all
I had hoped Bazunu would have a season as a first choice in the Championship. Preston NE (not too far from Manchester) were definitely interested, but couldn't afford to buy him. Had he been playing weekly in the Championship during the past season, he would have faced Mitrovic (43 goals), Solanke (29), Brereton-Diaz, Piroe and Weimann (22 each). Better for his development than as a no. 2 hoping for a good cup run.
Southampton are not signing him to be #2. Bazunu I would expect has had assurances that he will be 1st choice and it'll be up to him to keep his spot.
I don't think Bazunu would be going anywhere if he didn't see himself as at least getting a fair chance at being the first choice. Hopefully this is the first a many seasons of him playing 30+ EPL games.
Could do wonders to the Irish premier league minutes played stats which have been getting progressively grimmer over the seasons.
Not too many twenty year olds start in the Premier League, but let's hope for the best. I'd much rather see him on loan playing every week in the Championship or League 1 than on the bench at Southampton. Could be a great move for him if it goes through and he gets to play. His ball distribution is something else, a real pleasure to watch.
I think Nathan Collins went for £12m from Stoke to Burnley last summer, not £10m, but I'm not 100% sure.
My guess is that he’s going there to initially be 2nd choice, but I think he’s definitely a better keeper than McCarthy and will win his place by January either way
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
No, Bazunu is not going to Southampton to be McCarthy’s back up.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...in-Bazunu.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
"Southampton wanted to sign a young goalkeeper initially as a No 2 but also capable of challenging for the No 1 spot and believe Bazunu is one option who fits the bill."
Luckily the Mail's back pages are more reliable than its front pages.
I love this move if it comes to fruition. He has a top class attitude and is destined to success, he has incredible talent but more importantly he clearly has a terrific attitude and resilience.
He has already made several mistakes (and has learned from them) and has come back stronger and has continued to improve, the natural development of an excellent young keeper. With his international experience, he certainly is ready for premier league football IMO. Alex McCarthy is an underwhelming opponent for the number 1 position. Exciting move if it happens.
It's very disappointing city are prepared to let him go for 10 million and that there are not other uk or European clubs willing to compete with Southampton and push-up that price. Are some of those bad handling and bad kicking blunders putting off clubs? What is tge reason clubs are not knocking down city's door for a 20 year old keeper who is 20?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
By some accounts, the fee is only £10m because City are inserting a buy back clause.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
I guess we can wait until there is actually something official, right now we only have rumors…
Bazunu will surely get his chance to take the Number 1 spot if he is good enough.
Maybe they’re looking for a 20 year old keeper who is 19.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Was it Nii Lamptey who was the highly-rated 20-year-old who turned out to almost certainly be a few years older?
That could be itQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
There a difference between a young player and someone like Bazunu, if this is the case Bazunu might aswell stay at City…Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Why? He wouldn't be challenging for number 1 at City. That is just the plain fact of the matter. He'd be number 2. At Southampton, the gap or perceived gap would be narrower. Bazunu can back himself all day to overtake McCarthy. For now, not even the most biased Ireland supporter should think he will overtake Ederson in the short or medium term - even accounting for the odd error by Ederson.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Wonder what City are going to pencil into the buyback option... 10m feels a little low. Whilst he has had a mixed season and a great season at League One level, he's very young and has been excellent in a lot of international games. His ceiling is very high. And even if he never got near the ceiling, he will still be a very good keeper. Southampton paid City 13.5m for Angus Gunn, for example. Gunn is English though...
I've said it so many times about him but the beauty of Bazunu is that his attitude and mentality and maturity are unwavering and he's 20. You can't teach that really, can you? So combine that with the talent and, now, the experience, and 10m is such a safe outlay.
With Forster (19 league starts last season) having left, that leaves Southampton with the unconvincing Alex McCarthy (17 starts) and Harry Lewis (Never started a league game) as their only senior goalkeepers. 40-year-old Willie Cabellero (2 starts) has also been offered a new contract.
So it seems reasonably clear that Bazunu would have an excellent chance of establishing himself as number one were he to join the Saints.
At this point in his career, though, I see no reason why he would be in any huge rush to leave City permanently. A well-considered loan move would perhaps be his best option.
Opportunity knocks on those goalkeeper appearance figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
10m seems very low to me. He has 2 years left on his deal at city which isn’t a huge amount of time, which probably knocks a few mil off the final price - but they could obviously renew and send him out on loan to the championship if they weren’t selling.
I get that the buy back clause is worth something but I don’t see why they wouldn’t prefer to sell for 15m with a 20-25m buy back if they could get it, rather than say 10m with a 15-20m buy back clause.
From Bazunu’s perspective, he’s got the choice of moving to Southampton and challenging for a jersey and hopefully breaking into the team sooner rather than later and hopefully keeping the jersey, as good as he is, he will make bad errors over 38 games and the premier league is far less forgiving than league 1 would be. Or he plays a season in the championship on loan and assesses his options in a year’s time. Might end up being about contracts - like for example, city only offering him a loan if he signs a new contract at X per week, or if he’s willing to move to Southampton permanently
Buybacks kill the initial value. Its like huying a 33 year old who has no onward transfer value. Southampton would know they are paying for a player and taking a 10m risk (if that's the number) with limited upside if he works out. Without a buyback he would be worth a lot more as if they butba 20 yearbold league 1 player and he plays well in the Premier he is an instant transfer target for big clubs at a potential massive profit. Think. Van dyk signed from celtic for 12m (I think) and sold to Liverpool for 80÷ (again from memory) As a rovers fan I'm thrilled for him if it happens and also for the club between the initial fee plus add ons plus the sell on we will have banked best part of 3m
Buyback is £40m apparently, so Southampton look like they're doing well out of this deal either way.