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Well that's the understatement of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
yeah correct he was at chelsea!Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
why are cork playing the winners of that tie? I thought they were in the same round as st pats and shamrock rovers?
They are though?
Yeah, that's a preliminary tie with the winners facing CCFC.
Not the best draw as I don’t give us a chance. It looks handy enough to get to as Stockholm has three airports, one in the city two in the sticks.
Absolutely, that was one we wanted to avoid, would have been by far the worst of those in the pot. I wouldn't understimating Riga one bit,I heard they have improved a fair but, but looekd at their league table, joint tip after 15 games, but have lost 4, we should have enough to get through really. That will put us into EL r2, the journey will prob stop there in terms of the CL, as that will be up against likes of Celtic, Copehagen, Zagreb, Maribor etc would be to strong, but that would parachute us into EL r3, and thats only one round away from the play off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buller
Need to beat Riga first of course.
Tough for the rest, maybe Rovers have the best chance, usually you would always fancy an Irish side over a Lux side (have they ever beaten us ? for DFC we played them twice, 3 wins, 1 draw), this mob that Cork drew beat Rangers recently, will be no mugs.
Never beaten us. Though they've come close the last two times - 1-0 away defeat and 2-1 home win to lose on away goals - so they'll think they're due!Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Were Pats up against 10 men for a while in their game?
He was Conte's assistant at Siena, Juventus, Italy and ChelseaQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Mightn't be too long before he ditches Kilmarnock for Inter
In the away match they got a red very late on. I don’t remember much about the incident tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Our game got switched to home first , away second.
Groups for tomorrows draw
Dundalk:
FC København (DEN)
FC BATE Borisov (BLR) or GKS Piast Gliwice (POL)
FC Astana (KAZ) or CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) or PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)
FK Partizani (ALB) or Qarabağ FK (AZE)
Rovers:
FK Mladá Boleslav (CZE)
Fotbal Club FCSB (ROU) or FC Milsami Orhei (MDA)
FK Kauno Žalgiris (LTU) or Apollon Limassol FC (CYP)
RC Strasbourg (FRA)
AZ Alkmaar (NED)
FK Radnik Bijeljina (BIH) or FC Spartak Trnava (SVK)
Pats:
FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR) or FK Liepaja (LVA)
RCD Espanyol (ESP)
KF Laçi (ALB) or Hapoel Beer-Sheva FC (ISR)
Atromitos FC (GRE)
FC Arsenal Tula (RUS)
Cork:
NK Osijek (CRO)
FC Prishtina (KOS) or St Joseph's FC (GIB) or Rangers FC (SCO)
AS Roma (ITA)
Gzira United FC (MLT) or HNK Hajduk Split (CRO)
FC Luzern (SUI)
Is that Dundalk pool the worst any LoI club has ever had?
Incredible harsh on dundalk that.
Rangers would be great fun if we managed to get through. Roma would be amazing. Obviously not from a progression point of view.
If Dundalk have any designs on reaching group stages again, that's the type of quality of side that has to be overcome. It shows up how difficult the task actually is.
Dundalk: its still better than the other group I think. FK Partizani (ALB) or Qarabağ FK (AZE) would be the tie to draw. If the second leg is at home then anything can happen in a game like that. Some of those other teams wouldn't be great travellers Id say. Probably will get BATE again though.
Rovers: If they somehow get past Brann, FK Radnik Bijeljina (BIH) or FC Spartak Trnava (SVK) the tie to get. Strasbourg wouldn't be too bad, its only up the road for me.
Pats: If they get past the Swedes, not a bad draw really, best they could have hoped for, some very beatable teams there......FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR) or FK Liepaja (LVA)would be my pick.
Cork City: Tough enough, but I have been saying all month that Cork would get Lucerne, to annoy my city mate who used to live here, would be perfect chance to meet up again!
(Edit: oh yeah Basel are in it today...........get PSV then its the europa for definite)
It's been a difficult adjustment for Cork this year, but their minds must be on giving themselves the best chance of progress in the competition by progressing past Progres into the second round. That'd be a real bit of progress for them after a tough few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
More biggish teams have been pushed into the second qualifying round, so there was no easy draw really. Maribor / APOEL / Red Star in the other side are arguably easier than anything in our half, but not much! Worst group since the 2016 CL Playoff draw anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I think people are losing sight of the progress route, CL r2 (if we get there) was probably always going to be twice as hard as the first round, but the pot looks worse than I even feared. I would expect Dundalk to get past Riga, exit on the next round, then have a better chance in EL R3, that’s one round before the play off.
That will obviously all change if we don't get past Riga, then its into EL R2 and BATE / Polish side are lurking.
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Originally Posted by seand
Dundalk V AEK Larnaca 0–4, yeah.
There does seem to be general dismissal of Cypriot sides on here over the years. A very good Cork City side and a very good Dundalk side were brushed aside by AEK over the last 2 years. APOEL are a level up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
To me it looks less daunting than Dundalk's 2016 2nd round pool of possible opponents, as it turned out they got through on away goals against the weakest team.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Celtic, Bate, Copenhagen, Rosenborg, RS Belgrade and FH
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Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
They sucker punched Basel last season, was at the game, well set up team, brilliant on the counter. Knocked Basel out anyway.
Dundalk (or riga) V FK Partizani (ALB) or Qarabağ FK (AZE). That's the best they could have got.
Feck. Basel got PSV, that's the europa early again, damn
If Dundalk get through they play Partizani or Qarabag
Dundalk down to play at home first.
That's rough.
I don't think suggesting that APOEL might be slightly weaker than Astana counts as dismissing Cypriot sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Anyway Qarabag........ group stage football in each of the last five seasons doused in Azeri petrodollars- and that was probably the 'easiest' draw available.
Bate or Plast if dundalk fail to beat riga
Jeezus weptQuote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Wahey! European football! sadly none of the ties seem accessible from where I am in Austria. As always Dundalk and Irish sides generally should be aiming to be seeded in that first round and while there are no easy draws etc winning that seeded round will go a long way. As I understand it; if they beat Riga, then drop down (if they do lose), they will be seeded against the progressing CL losers:
which makes it a repeat of the first round really?
so being seeded and living up to that seeding allows for two arguably winnable ties. The third one is literally a playoff then into the group stages and obv hope for a miracle :D
Yes, Dundalk's most probable route looks like: beat Riga, lose to Qarabag, drop to ELQ3 where we'd play the winners of one of the ELQ2 ties between the CL first round losers, so possible something like Piast, Suduva, Linfield (who'll play HB from Faroes), Nomme Kalju ........Quote:
Originally Posted by sparky12345678
Win that and you're into the EL Playoff round with the CL third round losers, so possibly (going with seedings) Red Star, PAOK, Maribor, Ludogorets!
Cork and Rangers then.......
There's an incentive for Cork now
I really didn't want Rangers. Jesus. Not likely we will play them but thats some tie.
The Newco derby
Rovers vs Kauno Zalgiris / Apollon Limassol
Not the worst draw we could've gotten
It's very likely if we get through. It's the one I didn't want too. It would likely draw every cretin out of the woodwork. Turners Cross is not an easy area to police either.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Have the clubs/FAI/gardaí specifically requested that this be the case? Is the any particular reason they can't play on the same night?Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
I think its unlikely because I don't expect us to get through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Generally a UEFA rule. Can't have more than one game on the same night within a specific distance. Pats had a game moved to a Tuesday a few years ago because of somethign similar affecting their opponents. I think it played a part in our game in Estonia getting moved out of Tallinn, and our legs against Larnaca being swapped.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
"Announce cork bombing" One of the lovely comments from the rangers forum. They seem very nice
Play it at the Aviva and make a mint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar