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On a totally different point altogether, has anyone any clips of the penalty shootout as when I recorded the highlights on Eir Sport it only recorded till 118th min and then the shortened highlights didnt show the penalty shootout at all!
I'm not long back from Derry, watched some of the game and McGrath did the right thing, he didn't dive, he jumped out of the way to potentially avoid a broken leg. The intent on the challenge by the Derry lad was enough for a straight red on its own. Reckless stuff and he knew it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
You sound almost obsessed by this incident Sullanefc.
I saw the clip of that incident on Eirsport and Gillespie thoroughly deserved to go.. His lack of discipline was shocking to say the least!Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
I'd love to see McGrath try the 100m hurdles. It would be so funny seeing him fall flat on his face at the first hurdle.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Obsessed? No. Fascinated by the refusal by many on here to see the bleedin obvious.
Yes he has to hurdle the challenge, but he dives to the ground to sell it to the referee. This conversation would have ended hours ago if some of ye came out and admitted it. And I'm fascinated as to why ye won't. It's part of the game.
City got a schooling on it against Larnaca a few years ago as I'm sure Dundalk did last year, but there is no doubt in my mind that Dundalk are the best at it in this league. There were plenty of other minor bumps in the Derry game where Dundalk players "won" frees.
I wish City would do it more often being honest. I know Bohs fans were screaming blue murder when we scraped a win im Dalymount earlier in the season. And while I didn't see that game, I was delighted we did a bit of it. But believe me, as much as Bohs fans might think otherwise, we don't do it half enough.
With the Cork never tackle policy I can understand your general difficulty around all this. There are a lot better example than this one of players from Dundalk or otherwise exaggerating contact to try and influence the ref. In this example McGrath hurdled the wild tackle and landed on his front. He didnt go clutching at a foot or rolled around. He got up straight after and it was the Derry lad that stayed on the ground in a heap knowing that he was getting a card.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
On the general soft frees that get given in football these days, it's a frustration at times but it seems to be accepted that when a player feels contact or a hand on the back then its ok to go over and win a free. The continental sides are the experts at it although they call it game management- breaking up play, taking momentum out of the opposition's attacks etc. It is something that Long, for example, has said that his young players need to get cute at it even though he doesnt like it. It is up to referees to toughen up but if it is technically a foul what can they do as while a player can stay on their feet if there is a shove or any contact even if minimal and a player hits the deck then it is often a free. Hard to watch especially when its your own side that's chasing a game and this is eating in to time and momentum.
By and large the principals of the point you are trying to make have validity when a player overreacts to get a fellow pro sent off but your choice of example on ths occasion is a poor one!
Thanks Sully, fixed up a bit of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
You've had a long day now, get some rest.
Fair enough post but I disagree with the last paragraph as I think McGrath doesn't need to go to ground in the way that he does. He does it to sell the foul to the referee. He of course could have gone a step further by holding his leg and rolling around a bit but he knew that would be over egging it and everyone knew that the card was coming anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
He didnt need to sell the foul. He hurdled the challange and went to gound and got up. If he had stayed upright to jump the tackle he probaably would have trod on the player. Ifs, buts, maybes, and maybe he ended up on the floor after both avoiding the tackle and to avoid catching the player with a knee etc when sliding through. You are pusing the wrong example. We could do with some of RH's detailed analyisis to help clear this up.
I am also dismayed by the lack of intervention from hoops fans on this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Gillespie deserved to go. He should have been sent off six times over for braindead stupidity, whether McGrath turned into Greg Louganis and gave it a 6.0 from the top of the Southend Stand or not (and he didn't).
What a brilliant, brilliant game. What an occasion. Sometimes when you lose, you still win just cause you get to see something so class. Derry going toe-to-toe with one of the best domestic teams of my lifetime with a man down for an hour - pure magic stuff. Thought the officiating was poor, Gillespie sending off aside, with some icky decisions either way but you can't have everything. Just a great, thrilling bit of football theatre.
Dundalk are infuriatingly good and cute-hooringly infuriating, just like you have to be. I admire them about as much as I dislike them. :)
Am I right in thinking that the only games Dundalk have failed to win domestically since mid April are 4 2-2 draws with Derry?
Anybody with a link to a highlights package that includes the red card?
Not sure if this has the full penalty shoot out, but it has the re card and goals anyway
https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/...erry-city.html
Almost- but just 3 draws (we beat Derry 3-2 in the FAI Cup). Lost back-to-back league games at Pats and Sligo in April. There were some calls for Perth's head. Since then we've played 27 games domestically, 24 wins and 3 2-2 draws with Derry (counting the EA Cup final as a draw)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
They are waiting on the fuzzy photograph 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Ah yes - it was 2-2 after 90 minutes, so it's kind of four in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
I really hope that the club identify all those involved!
https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-statement-sep-2019/
A possible cup final V Bohs or shams should sort them out. 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Can't see why anyone would say McGrath was cheating. He was lucky to be able to avoid the challenge and it was at least a yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I know plenty of Dundalk fans, who would like to see them get their heads handed to them by Bohs fans or RoversQuote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Have to commend DFC on a pretty straightforward condemnation ,
The problem is and we have seen this at Rovers the kind of Muppet's involved seem to enjoy the publicity and notoriety.
Stadium bans and there have been plenty handed out don't stop some of them traveling to away matches and also sneaking onto some home matches.
Its hard to weed people out but it starts with outright clarity that the behavior is unacceptable.
Let's be clear about the behaviour involved -
There are the pitch invaders and then there are the scumbags who were involved in fighting or goading home supporters.
The attitude as displayed in the club statement is not strong enough on the first cohort
As long as pitch invaders are tolerated, the others will get to act out and create mayhem.Quote:
The club does not condone any spectators invading the playing surface
IMO The first group need to be educated (and repeat offenders prosecuted and banned), the second group prosecuted & banned with zero tolerance.
In Dundalk’s case, most know at this stage where this nasty little group are from. They travel on an NI reg bus as not one in the town will take them to games. Avg age late teen / early 20’s, often thought that NI based bus must be desperate for business, as anytime you see it, its party central, drinking and smoking no doubt.
Some in this group ran the entire length of the pitch to provoke Derry fans near the end where the pens were taken. Their behaviour was absolutely disgraceful and hopefully all be see lengthy bans. Further, any away trip I`m on, including in Europe, one of my first port of calls is finding out where they are, then to make sure we don’t go to the same spots. They are an absolute nuisance at this stage.
Of course the worst with all this, 95% of the 800 who travelled up behaved well, and for those of us who stayed over were treated brilliantly, then this. Complete embarrassment to the club.
Derry City is a fine club / lovely spot and they certainly didn't deserve to witness this.
It is against the law to consume alcohol on a bus in Northern Ireland if you're on the way to a football match. I sh'it you not.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Maybe the next time finding out what time their bus is on the road and someone giving the PSNI a wee call might be a handy way to knock it all on the head.
ToutQuote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
;)
Call their mams
These so called Dundalk fans are they from dundalk or from just across the border? Its not the first time this has happened is it?
They are from Dundalk. No bus companies in Dundalk will take them to games, so they get a bus company in NewryQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Pitch invasion never acceptable and has crept in at some clubs, shams and Bohs now Dundalk and Sheld seem to be doing it
It is trespass and courts could and should impose a stiff sentence in ALL cases. Teach the scroats to stay off the pitch in future.
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Originally Posted by oriel
Never acceptable,The club have them on the radar,out the door.The dicks from the Cork game attack are still serving time.Dundalk have been very proactive in this regard has to be said.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
@Oriel 95% -so 5% = 40.
No more than 10,maybe 12 involved in the trouble in Derry.
Their 'leader' is no young fella or is this another group again?
He's the gaffer,plays no part but complicit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
H***y the B*****d as he is known around townQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Fcuk 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
No mercy for wannabe-English scumbags.
The Republic should do what's happened in Britain, and make it a criminal offence to encroach onto a football pitch during or around a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
It's extremely rare to see anyone going on to a pitch in English or Scottish football these days as a result. And very easy to deal with those who do, as most have the sense not to follow them.
Yes fair point TT, around 10 involved, but its still 10 too many, even if thats tiny percentage.
Making it a criminal offence is a step towards discouraging the growing issue of pitch invaders. Education of supporters as to why it is not acceptable is also important and can have an impact on the core support whose behaviour is more innocent or euphoric.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Whether it is 10 or 50 involved in the aggressive stuff, the facts are they are less likely to get involved in fighting or goading opposition fans if they are not on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Anyone involved in assaulting others etc should be arrested and charged with zero tolerance applied
Yeah we had trouble with the shels fans a few wks back. 15-16 seats broken by their away end.invasion onto the pitch. And you know what they have gotten away with paying the bill too. Will have to try that sometime!Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Bit harsh on Hoopy :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10