This could have all been so avoidable had Cork just stuck an image of Eddie Hobbs on their jersey, no matter the colour.
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This could have all been so avoidable had Cork just stuck an image of Eddie Hobbs on their jersey, no matter the colour.
There is nothing bizarre about wondering why on earth a club would chose to play in the same colours as a rival. The explination you give is that the rivalry does not run deep enough for people to care. Yet that same rivalry has driven fans that are claiming not to care to have behaved very much in a way that they do care. It is contradictory. I set out a few example of how similar the choice of shirt is to our own and your response is that of meh its a short lived rivalry so no association at all. But just have a look at the kit and the comparisons. It is actually following the leader. If Cork fans dont question the choice its because they are convincing themselves that there isnt a comparison. Cork City have not played in black and white in the past. Black yes with various trims but not in a shirt that looks more like a Dundalk jersey than the Dundalk jersey. The Oscar Wilde adage is quite apt!Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Harps released a teaser of the away jersey for next season. Looks like a return to the popular luminous yellow.
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Are we genuinely comparing Cork vs Dundalk to the likes of Rovers vs Bohs because Cork released a kit that just happens to use two colours that Dundalk use in their kits, sometimes not even in the same kit just in general? Also lads Dundalk didn't invent the concept of black and white jerseys, get over yourselves.
So we'll just post pictures of new kits and say nothing about them?
Where's the craic in that ffs:confused:
Unless it's Shams/Bohs based banter(the greatest rivalry in World soccer:rolleyes:)we should just all just zip our gobs and say nothing just to keep you happy!?
Dundalk/Cork isn't a rivalry? Airbrush out the last 5 years of LoI history while you're there.
Get over yourself lad.
It was a bohs fan that first mentioned their Green jersey being rejected due to local rivalry. I referred to a non derby rivalry. Its still a strange choice under the circumstances currently. Its not just the use of colours but general design also along with timing.
It really isn't. I don't like it as I've already mentioned. But Dundalk fans seem to have brought silly season to a new level. If it's any consolation we're not likely to wear it against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Say stuff about them but don't talk ****e about "using a rivals colours". Dundalks jerseys are predominantly white with a bit of black sometimes thrown in, this jersey is black with some white added, looks nothing like a dundalk jersey.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
It is a rivalry, but it's a temporary one, in 20 years people won't be going "remember when Cork had a jersey that looked like a dundalk jersey" because one it doesn't and two even if they think it did by then it'll be a case of "so what?" and carry the same impact as if it looked like a Finn Harps jersey. Whereas if Bohs wore a green and white kit it could be 60 years from now and people would remember it and remind them they wore their rivals colours, or to borrow another example if Dundalk wore claret and blue it would be remembered.
Dundalk don't have a claim over the colour black if you add some white, get over yourselves.
We've never played in a black and white Jersey before? Wait, you're saying it's not the right type of black and white Jersey? Come off it ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
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You seem very upset that we don't care that you have had similar jerseys before. You're very worked up that we don't care more about you, and you using the colours previously. Why is that?
City fans don't care, it's very popular. You seem to be trying to make something out of nothing to fulfil what you think the rivalry should be.
Our staff didn't think of you when picking this shirt. Our fans didn't think of you when it was released. Seriously, get over yereselves.
to the naked eye that cork city away jersey is more black than white. dundalks is more white than black. end of story. i rest my case.
As a City fan, I do think it is a bit Dundalky. I would prefer a bit of yellow and green trim in tribute to Cork Celtic, but there you go.
If City and Dundalk were at opposite ends of the table then it's a non issue. But being rivals at the moment, then it's careless faux pas that the football fans on our BOM should have been more sensitive to.
To the Dundalk fans who think it's in homage to them?? Dream on.
As I understand it, the main part of Dundalk's jersey looks more white than black, and Cork's looks more black than white. It's obviously a negative for Caulfield.
Have you looked at the series of our own away kits on the previous page. sullen has described what fan should have been in the back of the mind. Its going to have plenty of jibes at games. I am far from upset I think its a great shirt and Dundalk fans like it, it is a strange choice at this time. When it was Cork and Drogheda that were rivals for a seaspn or 2 and if claret and blue were picked as club colours it would raise eyebrows, it is the very same scenario as to now no matter how Cork fans want to dress it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
No, it's not, because we haven't previously had claret and blue and a campaign about going back to it would simply be weird. Despite your incorrect claims that we haven't used the colours before, and somehow acting as if it's irrelevant, it's not.
Again, you seem to want city fans to be annoyed, and are adamant that's how we 'should' feel. But the vast majority are not. And the idea that we should care that it would lead to jibes at games :D come off it.
for some reason on the laptop nesta all that appears is the photo of that cork city away jersey and none of the dundalk away kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Haven't read the rest of the thread but I assume the Sporting Fingal fans are out in force. You know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
When I saw it, I didn't think "but those are Dundalk's colours" and I doubt many fans at all did think that.
I very much doubt that the thought ever entered the head of those designing it either.
This thing about imitation or flattery is total horsesh!t as far as I can see, by a few posters with a long history of it.
Between 'High voltage' and CCFC 'Back in Black' this thread screams AC/DC ;-) Blow up yer VAR!
The comments on imitation or flattery were obviously tongue in cheek osurusan. Nobody would actually think that Cork were trying to imitate Dundalk. The old adage just did fit in a wink emoji way. If the jerseys on the previous page cannot be viewed that didnt help my point that this jersey and previous Dundalk ones are very similar. I was neither upset nor bothered that Cork fans werent bothered, I just found it an unusual design/colours due to similarities. People dont agree and thats fine, I will concede that I was probably projecting. I was also pretty cranky over the weekends turn of events so in an argumentative mode. I also thought that that previous Cork black strip was just black with no white stripe.
Whether directed at me or not Osarusan your final comment was unnecessary and tbh your own posts can be quite churlish and priggish. Though that is possibly your intention at times.
I originally said we've had 2, but we've actually had 4. I forgot about the latest 2 including the one micls posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
This is one from 10 years ago:
https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/fr...rt-s24630.html
And here's the other 2:
https://museumofjerseys.com/2017/01/...black-to-blue/
https://www.adverts.ie/team-sports/c...jersey/3883380
As far as I know the final 2 were throwbacks to Cork Celtic, the 2005 version marking Cork as European Capital of Culture. As for the black and red......that was from the time of Arkaga where absolutely nothing made sense so we can probably write that off.
I'm praying Derry City announce an away shirt with Lady Diana on or something - just to get us away from the mind-numbingly dull chat about whether a shirt is more black with white or white with black, and yet another thread ruined by Dundalk/Cork sniping.
Rovers are about to launch a 3rd strip with a picture of John F Kennedy on it, should sell well with the Yanks.
Its because of the obvious link with Maureen O Hara being a lifelong fan of Rovers............she acted in a film with John Wayne who was an American .....and JFK was American and an Irish American one at that and Irish Americans wear green and white......so .....bobs your Uncle.
Ah would you stop. "I was only joking; could you not tell?", followed by "Yeah? Well, you're one too"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Could we not raise the bar a little bit beyond pre-school?
Osarusan is one of the most level-headed posters on here and is perfectly entitled to point out another thread going down the Dundalk/Cork (or Dundalk/Rovers) toilet.
...and this thread is definitely on a 'Highway to hell' :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Larry 'da' Wyse
Given Dundalk's huge apparent interest in the new Cork away 'shirt' perhaps CCFC should look at marketing it in The Town.Everyone wins. kinda.
Wasn't JFK a serial cheat ? Oh wait I can see the connection now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Good man, marinobohs, let's move this thread towards a good old-fashioned Bohs-Rovers bitchfest ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Meanwhile the rest of you will miss the epic Dundalk-Cork bantz in a couple of years when the wheels have come off and we're back in the First Division.
Ah now Sean, you should know its never that black and white :oQuote:
Originally Posted by seand
Wise up Stu, for starters I didnt introduce any comment on immitation or flattery thats was someone else, what I did say was the the Wilde quote might be apt. Nobody suggested that Cork would deliberately mimick a Dundalk shirt in anything more than a mischief like manner. My question or issue was that of people not seeing the similarities until Sullen did albeit being the only one. My last post was to concede that I had misread things, over reacted, projecting on how I would feel myself etc. To quit the way I was dragging the thread in a way based entirely on my own way of seeing things. It had nothing to do with joking! and not 'could you not tell I was joking all along'. I dont get the 'you're one too' comment' as Osarusan didnt point out that the thread was going down the Dundalk/Cork (or Dundalk/Rovers) toilet. He made a sweeping comment that was snide (IMO) directed at no one in particular, am I not entitled to point that out? It wouldnt be the first time but stones in glasshouses and all that. Indeed you would have been a bit beyond preschool by not trying to make something out of nothing of my previous post above and simply taken it as it was intended. Jaysus I voiced an opinion, pushed it beyond silly, and backtracked with lightened up on it. Quote the post in full rather than edit for effect and the tone is quite obviously acknowledging that I was pushing it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
another one you heard from the sham AGM ? or is that held in Australia now so that the owner can attend :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
No, it was you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
That's not really the issue for me though, the issue for me is stuff like this absolute nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
It is a ridiculous attempt to turn nothing into something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
There isn't any mischief or banter or 'tongue in cheek' element to it, just garbage.
I'll hold my hands up on this one, I mistook you for another Dundalk poster who does have a long history of garbage wind-ups, so my apologies for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Fair enough!! I should read back before I go swinging. I cant deny I havent been in general tetchy and rant mode since the middle of last week. And yes the quoted post is bs, but it was more an attempt to stir or lash out a bit than it was some deep upset at the choice of colours. That the jersey comparisons may not have been viewable to see the similarity I was thinking how on earth the similarities could not be seen. Not that it was particularly important either way. My apologies and my excuse is being p!ssed at John Delaney, in general but more than usual after thnking we have kept an important key person to the owners money making ambitions and without that person risks them losing interest....its my excuse whether a worthy one or not is another thing.
I do still think that some of your posts can come across as priggish, so Im not all apologies, but it is foot.ie so there are no shortage of such posts myself included.
Where is Dodge these days and i'm surprised Asterix and Placid Casual aren't out and about with a smirk or two! As for Stu well if you are going to quote quote the lot, If I put a smiley at the end here does that mean I can claim 'only joking' later on:p:confused:
This should be foot.ie's version of the get out of jail card in Monopoly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I'm the only one agreeing with you and you get my name wrong!!! Tsk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
No issue with the last 2 with the yellow trim. As you said, a nod to the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
As bad as Arkaga were, at least it had some connection to our colours with the red trim.
If you remove the sponsors on the shirt that micls posted then it is plain black and white, which has no connection to us, but at least Dundalk weren't main rivals then.
I think our BOM should have been more aware, that's all. A bit of yellow/green trim would have sorted it.
Nah I thought Sullen was a better fit! I had better do the emoji now :pQuote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Oh right. I thought it was an SEN thing tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Can you boys get off the bohs rovers thread please:)
No cause when I was having a rant as a Dundalk fan about Cork, Bohs fans had the chance to explain why their players had green boots, some of them, and how a green jersey become known as jade. Think of what would have been missed without Dundalk/Cork infiltration.....
Fair point , you can stay :)
Our new merchandising guy really has gmdone fantastic work this year. It's gone from the most underutilised and complained about part of the club to the most highly praised.
The new shop renovations look fab and the new display for this Jersey has gone down very well. Good to see off the field stuff being done well. Attachment 2745