Here is the goal itself. Redmond to Obafemi, hopefully that will also be a future thing for Ireland.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1076519534973063169
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Here is the goal itself. Redmond to Obafemi, hopefully that will also be a future thing for Ireland.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1076519534973063169
With this and with McCarthy back and maybe Rice staying onboard. Hope is a beautiful thing
O! Ba! Fe! Miiiiiii!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be keen on Redmond playing for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
100% agree. You wear the jersey your goneQuote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
I do see your point and not something I would pursue. But l doubt there’s a forum across the sea with similar sentiments about Rice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I disagree. I am of the view that the manager goes out and gets the best squad of players that are available to him. Re Redmond himself he is a good player and I would have him no problem. Thiago Motta, Nacer Chadli, Wilfried Zaha, Jermaine Jones, Diego Costa are just some names who have played for an International side before jumping to another. Sure even Alex Bruce did it. Every country uses the rules available to them to better their side.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
Wilfried Zaha made his debut against Sweden twice. Its outrageous.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
100% agree. I couldn’t care less as long as the player can potentially contribute positively to our national team. The staunch Republican attitude of many supporters bemuses me. We’re living in a much changed world and have an increasingly finite pool of players at international level. Given this paucity of talent, no stone should be left unturned in enquiring about players, without completely going down on both knees of courseQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Redmond has played for Eng against Germany and actually was on the bench for a competitive game, but was an unused sub. Its not right that he lines up for us.
While we’re on the subject, I assume Mark Noble is still eligible. Even he must now realise he’s not going to get an England cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Yep he sure is, but he has said no and he is in his 30s nowQuote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
10,000% agree. Most people have voiced that the rules need to change re: Rice and playing a friendly. Redmond played for England in a friendly against Germany...he chose his nationality and all power to him - but now Mr.Redmond, stay there please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Sorry boys, but I hope he comes on board as we are weak on the right side of midfield.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...-37657608.html
Not just because I think he would add a lot to our team but also because I’d like to stick to fingers at England and the FA after what those snakes did without Rice. If they want to give it they got to take it also.
John Fallon stating that "it's understood Redmond is amenable to a discussion" doesn't provide much base to this article.
In general I agree, except for the depiction of being staunch republican. I’d see it more as petit nationalism. I heard Gary Breen on the radio spout nonsense (in an english accent) that Redmond wasn’t irish. Quite possibly in the early parts of the 20C, there was a man named Breen who had good reason to question the national credentials of a man named Redmond. It sounded a tad ironic and fanatic to hear it from Breen on Talksport. Also Kilbane is extreme in his opinions vis a vis Rice and I’d presume it would be same re Redmond. I say let the manager do what he sees is his job and we observe and appraise the outcomes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
I'd rather hear someone like Aldridge, Townsend or Houghton give an opinion on the eligibility issue than someone who is tunnel visioned like Kilbane or Breen tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The other thing is, all southgate has to do is call Redmond and say you might still be in my plans son and i think that will be that( even if it's bull)
kilbane and breen want to see comittment thats based on a genuine connection to us and not based on playing for us being a good career move. reasonable stance imoQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Mick McCarthy won't care about their opinion though. Nathan Redmond's mother is Irish (since he is the man in question) which is a very reasonable connection. In any case, it is all very hypocritical for a men born in Preston or London with English accents to question the Irishness of a man born in Birmingham.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I think they are refering to the fact that he played for the English national team alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
both of whom jumped at the chance to play for us and didnt think for a second about who they wanted to play for.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
didnt redmond decline previous attempts to declare for us? if he declares for us now its nothing more than a career move.
Misses out today through injury.
That’s not what Breen actually said, Breen said that Redmond was not even Irish. Both Breen and Kilbane have set themselves up as arbitrers of not only who is Irish enough to play for Ireland, but who of the diaspora is actually Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
It is disingenuos for you to claim that Breen’s motivation was about it being a good career move for Redmond. As of now, I very much doubt that Breen has the foggiest notion of young Redmond’s intentions in regards to a posssible proposal to declare for the country of his mother.
The man has played for the Senior English national team. He also was on the bench for a competitive game for England. He was actively tried to be recruited by the FAI while he was with Norwich in the Championship and he said no thanks im waiting for the call from England. As they say if you dilute the mi-wadi too much you might get more drink, but it will taste like ****Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
i heard the breen interview and thats exactly what he was sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
That mi-wadi line always gives me a guilty laugh cause I'm always sure someone will disapprove cause it sounds borderline racist in this kinda context(obviously not the intention)its a great phrase thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
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Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Apologies for the late reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
The reason I wouldn't be keen on Redmond playing for us has nothing to do with a 'staunch Republican attitude'. It's due to the fact that he has already played for the England senior team. Nothing more, nothing less.
If McCarthy convinces him to throw his lot in with us then I'd hope he gives his all and performs well, just like I do with every other player regardless of their place of birth. That doesn't mean I agree with it in principle however.
Another thing that irks me on the Redmond thing is the timing of it. He was out of form last season and not on the radar for the England senior side as a result. He's hitting form now and we have a new manager who appears to be willing to be a bit more aggressive than the last in recruiting these lads. Doesn't this provide Redmond and his agent with the best opportunity possible to remind Southgate he has options?
Yep. One call from Southgate and this is all over. If Southgate said to him there was a 20% chance of being in his plans Redmond drops us like a hot rag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
England a supposed WC semi finalist team have no problem resorting to bullying a 19 year old to declare for them even when he has 3 Ireland caps, in that case I think it’s not that big a deal to at least ask Redmond if he interested in going to other way.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
To be fair the way things are going Southgate go as far as ring a league 1 player and say there is a chance. It seems he is on a mission to stop any Irish qualified player playing for us and the Wayne Rooney cap vs USA shows he has no problem de-valuing a cap just for reasons outside of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
What are people's thoughts here on Will Addison playing rugby for Ireland?
If he had played for the England Senior team. Same as Redmond no rhanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Ive 3 issues with Nathan actually
Played for Eng v Germany
Was on the bench for a competitive game Eng v Lithuania i think
Was asked by the FAI to come on-board when he was with Norwich and said no thanks im waiting for England
Why do you see the senior team as different from the underage teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I'm not sure if I'm right in thinking we've never had a former English U21 international declare for us. If so, would you have an issue with an Eng U21 player switching to us?
EDIT - I've just seen your post above.
So is the issue with the player himself or with the idea of an English international switching?
International switching, he is a senior English playerQuote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
I genuinely do they there is a big difference between underage and the senior national team. The whole country supports the national team, while its only family and nerds like us who watch the underage stuff for the most part anyway.
Addison said he was always the kid that supported Ireland growing up. He seemed to infer we were his first choice. Rugby is a bit different in that an opportunity to join an Irish province would have had to present itself before he could come on board. Kieran Marmion and Sam Arnold, for example, also had Irish blood and took the opportunity at a younger age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Little side note on Redmond since he was asked to join. I scoured his mother's Twitter for anything recent on Ireland. Nothing really. One thing I noticed is she constantly tweets Cyrus Christie congratulations with shamrocks etc. He's a similar age to Redmond and from a similar area. They weren't ever at the same pro club (Coventry v Birmingham) but they could be mates.