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Suspended by the club?that seems bizzare ,the mans a legend in local soccer circles,why would they suspend him..gives 100% to everything does Cecil,surely the manager of the club will sort it he arrived back to club as his assistant did he not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennycon
Ever been in a dressing room with him? I have and it's an experience... legend is a bit of a stretch.
Whatever about Cecil's dressing room modus operandi, the guy is one of the few genuine what-you-see-is-what-you-get individuals involved in junior soccer today.
For my money, that alone might qualify him as a legend, as guys like him are about as rare as hen's teeth in the game in this town.
As far as i'm aware Cecil was suspended by the club after an altercation he had with a referee after a game few weeks ago,i agree the man is a legend and gives his all,would be great to see him back with Carew with some big games coming up soon i'm sure they could do with himQuote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
Eugene and your relation go back a long way.If at first you dont succeed your relation will pull the strings.its a disgrace by the Editor to go over Pat Sheahan's head.Cant see you giving them the coverage Pat gives them.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanOB
Steady on Faceoff, if you think a) they didn't speak to Pat before this happened and b) that he or his reputation are in any way threatened by AOB then you really are just stirring the pot for pot stirring's sake. PS reports the way a junior game should be reported on. The other guy goes into a level of detail that it doesn't, based on the people who play it and manage it and criticises it on a level that almost mocks the same people for not being Jose bloody Mourinho or Paul bloody Scholes. I don't like it because it's not fair. But he's entitled to say what he wants.
Could you point out to me where in the post i say pats reputation is being threatened.Far from it Pat has more respect gained from junior AND youth football on his little finger than that other fella will ever get.As you say he reports on the game not personal business or any of the other crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
You said the editor went over his head
Can you not give it a rest,if you dont like what he writes dont read it anymore,all that hate related stress that you seem to be burdened with will disappear and you can get on with your life.we should be talking about teams and football ..opinions and all ..not this crap you keep going back to.Quote:
Originally Posted by faceoff
And what has that to do with his rep??Fairkop i dont read his trash.Like your good self who thrives on it.Id prefer to read a football mans reports about football and not personal snide attacks to what your pal has being doing for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
Fairkop, you would do well to just ignore what is just a bitter man spreading a rumour started by someone equally bitter, crestfallen at my recent reversal in fortunes.
As you well know, I am my own advocate, and I'm a damn good one. And thankfully, in this case, I had the ear of someone who is capable of seeing the wood for the trees. No family involvement was necessary, or requested.
As an aside, the argument currently ongoing between this guy and "Treaty Gooner" speaks absolute volumes, doesn't it? Imagine thinking, as both seem to do to varying degrees, that an editor should be in thrall to one of his writers! Absolutely amazing stuff.
Anyone like to share their experience(s) of today's Munster Junior Cup action? My report (on the Regional game) is in the other thread. Pike/Balla sounded like a tasty one, from what I've heard?
Nobody knows the truth to any of the speculation above except for Pat and Eugene so 'amazing stuff' it may be, but it seems likely that long time colleagues would have discussed new and overlapping columns. And if you were that good an advocate you wouldn't have to continually justify yourself, the work should speak for itself.
Pike and Balla wasn't a cracker, but it was a proper junior football cup tie. 90mins of end to end entertainment.
Loves blown his own trumpet Treaty.MOB did pull strokes for him too.Back in July/August he reported he had his column in the Weds edition of the leader until they ran him which is facts that everyone knows.If not how come it took 5 months for the first edition.Spoof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
Far from stressed Barnes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
Good win for the Boro yesterday, could've been a sticky one. Hard to see Geraldines picking up points but their game in hand is a must win now. You'd expect Nenagh to beat them next week.
Any link to the Leader piece ? I cant find it or maybe its still pending ?
Print only at the moment, but I'll make enquiries.
Doesn,t look good for Geraldines but plenty points to play for yet,Moyross have had a very poor league campaign,the return of last years mgt has not seen an upturn in their fortunes,looks like they will finish this season with as many defeats as last season which must have numbered 14 or so.,probably just about survive .Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
I actually liked the column. You don't have to agree with what he says but that's the beauty of journalism. It creates talking points and the reports are almost always faultless. Keep it up aob.
Fair play. Great to see someone who was very negative about me in the past come back with a more nuanced view. I appreciate it.
Defo changed my opinion. I had been influenced by a lot of negative talk but iv altered my views now. Good read again today. It provided an honest and alternative views at issues which wouldn't usually be in the local media. Keep it up aob
Interesting one today AOB,a lot of talk about this subject doing the rounds and it is good to see the named refs back doing what they should be doing at the level their talents deserve.our local fixtures sec has had a lot to do with this and of course in the wider scheme of things has continued to rule the roost ,unfortunately not to the betterment of the game in this region.
You had plenty of oppurtunities to pull him up on it when you sat with him and more than likely ran with him.Stop now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
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Pat sheehan is the best guy for junior soccer simple as, he always has the best interest of the clubs, never personal nor does he listen to rumours he just writes what he sees. The interest he has on the lower divisions are there for everyone to see. Pat always has a neutral mindset and I have never seen him take a personal swipe at anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by faceoff
Pike fans don't buy the leader today :p:p AOB goes to townQuote:
Originally Posted by AlanOB
I can't see AOB getting a Christmas card from pike rovers ouch !!!!
What an interesting piece that was in the Leader today by AOB,well written and a good angle on Pikes present form.enjoyed it.
I read the piece, thought it was ok, nothing more. I personally wouldn't have named Jason Purcell in the piece, didn't need too. Getting the best out Cian Collins, decent point but he did miss two absolute sitters last Sunday, hardly managements fault, also to be fair he has had a recent enough injury. After that there wasn't much more in it, meah!
Don't see why it's necessary to have a pop at anyone the way he did. It's junior football. What do you want to achieve AOB? What's the end game here?
His big ego.Doesn't seem to mention the UEFA qualified coach didn't win a trophy last year.How long is it since that happened???Maybe Fairkop may know.Could be another ground he will be refused entry??His agenda is personal as he has proven with POD and Mick Ahern now its Pikes turn.Who's next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
How would i know Faceoff?...and he did mention the UEFA coach ie Mick shiels several times.a lot of sensitive people out there ,but only when it suits them.where were all the concerned citizens a few weks ago when a report in the Leader suggested pikes players weren,t trying in a league game.get a grip ,AOB,s piece is thought provoking ,but hardly nuclear stuff ,grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by faceoff
A come on fairkop the report was not fair on Eddie o Donovan he is only in the job a few months it has been a difficult time for him but AOB was very personal it is junior soccer not champions league.
Fair enough point..so go on then point out where in the article he is unfair and personnal,much of it compares Sheils approach to mgt as opposed to the three lads currently over the team,as regards O Donovan was he not assistant manager who helped win leagues,cups incl the big one ?hardly a novice given his experience.he pointed out they had a great start,are wobbling now and have time to stop the wobble...its candy stuff lads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennycon
Read exactly what i said Sheils won no Trophy.How long is it since that happened.Thats what i said.Cant see the leader putting up with that tripe going forward.He slaughtered your own club and yet you condone it.Mindboggling.Will all end in tears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
i don't think o Donovan was assistant manager when pike won the fai but I stand to be corrected maybe someone can confirm ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
Comparing any new manager to a previous set up after 4 months is ridiculous, agree with the majority of the posts, its purely controversial and is not a fair reflection on the current set up, his opinions are based on hearsay, not fact, naming Purcell is poor taste also. I also agree with a previous poster, its junior soccer not champions league. its in fact a prime exactly of a good reason why a hell of a lot of people are totally fed up with junior soccer in this town. Poor article, which lacks class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
Lads, I read the article and saw nothing wrong bar the mention of the current Oscar traynor manager.
Nearly all the people who follow, support, or casually watch local football will express an opinion at some stage.
If people don't like a person or that person's opinions..... tough.
There are many an expressed comment on either FB or on many other media sites, that I would not accept or consider valid but,
one of the few freedoms that we enjoy in our country is the ability to express ourselves and or our opinions..
to quote Don Henley " Get over it"
Head's up, for those of you interested: my Leader column is back in shops this morning, dissecting the anatomy of a successful junior soccer manager -- what makes a good one tick, and what doesn't.
I'm sure a lot missed it in this Wednesday's Leader, so here -- on a one-off basis -- is a reprint of my first column of the New Year. Enjoy...
Born Offside: Clubs must tread carefully in the managerial minefield
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