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Well in my country irish are very well received and respected like the basques are. My granny was irish. Of course in the anglophone world the irish were prosecuted systematically. Ireland used to be the Ernest "Che" Guevara Lynch De La Serna of the countries worldwideQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Well maybe the irish are forgetting they are irish. Thats globalization. The end of nations. Here you can explain Rice and Grealish and their emotional detachment. Dont think that from the previous generations. Im a plastic paddy but i feel attached to the island and its tragedyQuote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
Mods, can we nip this BS in the bud? Even better than not feeding the trolls is reigning them in.
I live the way he is breaking his a*s laughing believing we believe he is Argentinian. When he is probably from templogue
I am from Argentina and i live in Hurlingham. Actually it is William C. Morris our town. On the west side of greater bs.as founded by irish and italian and basques inmigrants. I have lived 5 years in Europe between Geneve and the french border, i worked for ITU and OMPI and i also lived in Villafranca del Penedčs in Catalunya.
i have also met Bielsa twice when at Lezama the training facilities of Athletico of Bilbao the saturday after he defeated Man. U at Old Trafford that midweek. That afternoon he gave us tickets for free when they played Osasuna the former club of Michael Robinson in El Sadar. Michael was broadcasting the game live there for spanish tv that night.
Thats why i remembered Bielsa was contacted for the irish national team back in 2013.
Where you are from, or not from, or who you have met is completely immaterial. No one should ever, ever be subject to insults, abuse, "stick" whatever you want to call it, solely because of their skin colour. Insisting they just put up with it is asinine.
I played with a soccer team years ago full of Brazilians and a few Africans and East Europeans.
The racism I heard on the pitch toward them from Irish lads was disgusting and made me ashamed.
if this is happening in lil' old Ireland well there is something strange maybe are becoming insensitive because of more money and better incomes and salaries less poverty. Fathers, mothers, grandpas, grannies, uncles, aunts etc etc should take the blame.
It is part of globalization, if a young irish thinks he is at the same level as w.a.s.p people are well he or she hasnt read history.
Irish are more related to the people in Galicia and the Basque Country than anyone in the world. Poverty and exploitation is part of history and i read somewhere that the irish population 120 years ago was like 12.000.000 or something like that.
Here we are the fifth nation with the larger irish population in the world. And with celtic background, half the country is. At least. 20 millions are celtic related down here.
hey pal isnt James McClean getting abused in England week in and out because of his irishness. Diego Maradona was the most abused and insulted footballer in football history. Do you know he has a close irish friend? Colin Farrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
For arguments sake, I’ll engage:
I’ve never witnessed more racism anywhere in the world than I saw in South America, particularly in Chile and Argentina. Was heartbreaking. These bright young Haitian refugees who were just teenagers being treated like they were subhuman. Of all the places in the world, how the **** did the end up in a place that treats them so appallingly?
Racism is mostly to do with education and up-bringing and it’s also somewhat cultural. I don’t believe for a second it’s about improving incomes and reduced sensitivity or globalisation.
From what I’ve seen in Ireland, speaking in generalisations, racism is most often found in the areas where there is the most socio-economic depravation - and also certain parts of rural Ireland where there is an overwhelming fear of the other.
For a WUM you're especially strange, I'll give you that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
It's the misplaced apostrophe that gets me.
ive met some guys from Haiti living in greater Buenos Aires province all of them they told me that they came from the upper class of Haití because only the riches can study.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Actually i play football with one of them. He is studying in one of our free universities in the greater Buenos Aires. We have a lot of students from a lot of countries because the best universities here are free of charge, which it is an achievement of peronism and its social base.
Studying and Learning at a university is a human right in Argentina.. In Argentina most of the riches, they complaint because they evade taxes and dont wanna pay what they should.
Dont know were you've been but it sounds you have been with the upper class of BS.AS.capital city, or with people from the northern corridor of the greater buenos aires, Olivos, Vicente Lopez, San Isidro, Martínez and San Fernando where the upper class live.
Working class Argentina in the suburbs is very much side by side with people from Haití.
Regarding Chile the wealthy upper class is very racist and elitist. Chile is a very uneven unequal country.
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Interesting to read but kind of Waaaaaay off topicQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
Appears to be joining Nottingham Forest - https://www.nottinghamforest.news/20...yrus-christie/
Probably for the best, he's a solid Championship performer but was going to get next to no game time with Fulham this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Was thinking the same really.
Potentially a very good move. Forest are a club on the up.
Christie's move to Forest is confirmed.
Loan until the end of the season.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54211382
Fulham have taken up the option to extend Christie's contract for another year, which was due to expire.
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2021/j...er-Departures/
Linked with a move to Bologna this morning, who've won and drawn their first two games in the new season in Italy, finished 12th in Serie A last season
Its a funny old game football, a Serie A team are after a player that is nowhere near our team! ( btw I agree with kenny on this one)
That's out of the blue. Where did you see that? Last I saw was a move to Stoke in the offing.
You can never tell with these things whether it's agent talk or if there's actually something in it. I suppose Serie A is probably weak enough outside of the top six or seven teams that it's not beyond possibility that he could go there. Probably just agent talk all the same and he'll end up at Stoke or Birmingham or somewhere like that.
Bologna target Fulham defender Cyrus Christie as Serie A side join Burnley and Stoke in transfer chase (thesun.ie)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Its the sun, so we know we are in safe hands !
I saw it on the athletic - https://theathletic.com/realtime/rCkK1kiZuaPo
Bottom half Italian teams are known to make these kind of signings as the don’t have the money to compete with the Bundesliga, PL or Serie AQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Well, Bologna have just offloaded rightback Takehiro Tomiyasu to Arsenal and trousered Ł17m for postage and packaging, and Burnley have given Welsh rightback Connor Roberts a geansai and four year deal so that means ... Stoke, yeah, Stoke. Probably. Would like to see him in Serie A all the same.
That could be a good move for Christie, if there's anything to it. Most of the players I can think of who have moved from England to Italy in the past few years have boosted their reputation of had an Indian summer. I think the level is a little lower there, but it'd be a step up from the Championship.
I see there's a Sydney van Hooijdonk in the current Bologna squad - son of Pierre.
Bologna signed Arthur Theate, a 21-year old Belgian CB from KV Oostende. Looks like a loan with an option to buy but it may be a case of Bologna boloney for Cyrus.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/arthur...spieler/368891
Did Cyrus get a move in the end?
No, he didn't. Perhaps it was just as well, given the premature birth of his daughter and illness of his partner last autumn. Cyrus Christie interview: Prematurely born daughter changed my outlook, I can’t let Fulham exile break me down | Evening StandardQuote:
Originally Posted by MylesNotMiley
Now linked with a transfer to Blackburn or Cardiff, as he is out of contract this summer -- and the Bologna rumour persists, with Elche thrown in for good measure! (The 72, 1 January).
A move to Swansea (whose right-back Ethan Laird was recalled by Man U) was being reported earlier today (Planet Swans, The 72, 12 Jan), but it seems to have collapsed during the afternoon (Wales Online).
The loan to swansea has now gone through after all.
So I see.... I wonder what the hiccup in the negotiations was about, but it's good for him and for the BIG that he will get some game time.Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
Nice move, hopefully he gets plenty of game time. With Coleman seemingly on the demise unfortunately and Doherty struggling, RB could become an open position in the coming couple of years.
Straight into the team. Right wing back. Manning left wing back. Obafemi on the bench.
Good few starts in the Championship today actually. Knight, Ebosele, Egan, McGoldrick, O'Dowda, Connolly, McNamara, Taylor, Szmodics, Shipley, Browne, Cunningham, Dunne, Molumby and Robinson.
That's on top of McGuinness, Collins, Lenihan and Travers in the earlier kick offs.
That's 20 players up for selection (excluding McGoldrick) and there's a team in that.