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I wouldn't really think it was disingenuous, goalscoring midfielders was just the topic being discussed. I think the fact our defenders are more prolific than most of our midfielders might actually emphasise the point more in a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Is it not fair to say that a lot of the forwards with over ten goals played a lot of their time on the wing?
Walters, Long & Doyle might have played some games on the wing but more often than not were up front (usually in a 4-4-2) I would think. Here are the players with over ten goals:
Robbie Keane 68 14 Oct 1998 31 Aug 2016 Niall Quinn 21 10 Nov 1987 06 Oct 2001 Frank Stapleton 20 13 Oct 1976 02 Jun 1990 Tony Cascarino 19 22 May 1988 11 Oct 1997 Don Givens 19 08 Jun 1969 30 Apr 1980 John Aldridge 19 19 Oct 1988 11 Oct 1995 Shane Long 17 26 May 2007 09 Oct 2016 Jon Walters 14 11 Nov 2011 11 Jun 2017 Kevin Doyle 14 15 Nov 2006 03 Sep 2014 Noel Cantwell 14 25 Nov 1956 22 Feb 1967 Gerry Daly 13 08 Sep 1976 25 May 1986 Jimmy Dunne 13 11 May 1930 13 Nov 1938 Ian Harte 11 15 Jun 1996 08 Jun 2005
Crap wall really!
Keeper didn't do himself any favours either
With Brady been out of Moldova and no one of the regular starters having any ability on set plays might hourihane come into the mix with his ability to take corners free kicks?
Well it is his responsibility to line up the wall for starters and it should cover the far post, so it is no surprise he cant get to it really as it should not have been possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
to bend it round the wall. Hence he does not have to cover that post I mean if he could get there there is no point in having a wall.
As it happened he got it round the wall with a yard or two to spare. It is ridiculous!
Another man in the wall and that side is covered completely.
Perhaps they underestimated Hourihane's ability .
I do not get it, I mean the wall is supposed to be covering the keepers left post yet the keeper is standing closer to the left post anyway and still can't save it. It is just
unbelievable. Was a good kick though.
[QUOTE=tetsujin1979;1951669]Cracking finish from Hourihane against Birmingham today
Eighth of the season - great to see him back scoring again, particularly more of his special long-range strikes - could be a useful weapon in the Nations League and beyond - let's hope he makes the step up to the Prem next year.
Him and McGeady must be the top Irish strikers in Championship
Hourihane is top, with eight, followed by Daryl Murphy with seven, then David McGoldrick with six (plus two EFL Cup goals) McGeady with six, Hogan with five (plus three EFL Cup), O'Brien with four (plus two FA Cup), Maguire with four and Alan Browne with two league goals (plus two FA Cup goals).
Ninth of the season for Hourihane as Villa beat Wednesday 4-2 - Glenn Whelan got one of the other villa goals: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43093649
Delighted for them both. Whelan's first goal for Villa - happy days ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Whelan's goal at 1:47, Hourihane's at 2:26. Going by these short highlights, Villa rode their luck big time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ47-FA7wvI
You didn’t see Whelan in that sort of position very often for Ireland or for his other clubs either for that matter .Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Hourihane is a good man for those balls coming out of the box . He has a good eye for a goal in that position . The Two Lads did good .
Playing with such reckless abandonment of his primary duties, it's no wonder Villa conceded two goals. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
See ! Wheelman (misspelt , I’ll leave it ) Went Rogue and see what happens . The Football Gods don’t stand for that sort of thing .Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Glenn was really impressed with Snograss’s cross but you could see that deep down he knew the Footballing gods would get him for his impetuiosity .
I see Whelan didn't celebrate against his former club.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I saw a lot of Owls' supporters complaining about the penalty in the last action of the game. The Villa player was floored. Clear penalty.
I forgot that Glenn played for Sheffield Wednesday . That explains the muted celebrations . He did take the chance of being unusually near the goal;)
Whelan's goal made it 2-2 in a match Villa would have been thinking they needed to win. I think that might have been as much to do with the non-celebration, but who knows.
Came off the bench late yesterday to assist the winner in the fourth of five minuted added on having been dropped, (and Whelan) after a 1-3 opening weekend away win.
Late winner from him tonight v Yeovil to prevent penalties and possibly a very messy post match interview for his manager.
Great free kick against Blackburn (some swerve ignoring the dodgy wall):
It was a thing of beauty alright, nearly as pleasing on the eye as Darragh Lenihan totally clearing out Jack Grealish with a late bodycheck!
I wonder what sort of spud that was filmed with?
Probably a recordQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Nominated for EFL goal of the hear 2018: https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-the-year-2018
Vote early, vote often
He's miles behind. Good goal mind you and good press to be included. Really impressed with how he has solidified his place as they have improved. Still don't think villa have enough to go up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
He and Browne clearly most likely to get bought out of the championship but so few players make that jump these days. I wonder if there is a site that tracks transfers from CH to EPL.. I bet it's a declining number.
Dunno, I think Villas improvement under the new manager without him having had a shopping window suggests they aren't far away, not a million miles, that and 0-3 away wins at Derby and Middlesbrough suggest they have the level, or close to, Leeds on Saturday will tell us more. Hourihanes central role in the improvement is encouraging, yes. If they have a good January sales it could be on.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamo kerry
I think Robinson is more likely than either of those to get a transfer up to be honest. And plenty Villa fans looking at his form, *****d off he was their player but deemed not good enough in favour of several fancy haircut foreigners who landed them in the Championship.
The build up there is the football equivalent of setting up a drop at goal
It's a cracking goal and he really changed the tempo for villa when he came on with his passing and work rate.
They seemed to play 4 very attacking midfielders with just Whelan deep. I assume they wanted to ensure a home win to take away. Not sure if McGinn, good and all as he is, was involved in more Villa goals than Hourihane this year.
Right, I've tossed 3 pages of off topic and rulebreaking posts in the bin and I've reopened the thread. If it starts again I'll bin the rest and I'll start doling out suspensions and bans. Get back on topic please.
Gets a crack at the big time next year as Villa win the play-off final: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48331145. Brings our number of midfielders in the EPL to five - six if Glenn Whelan can defy the odds and hold down a first team place (as long as Arter re-establishes himself at Bournemouth). Also improves the chance of Scott Hogan playing in the top tier, either at Villa or through a return to the Blades
Definitely good news for Ireland and Hourihane, and as for Whelan - the comeback kid? Always thought he did a better unobserved job in midfield than a lot of his detractors did - 'marking' space, cutting off runs, the kind of unrewarding stuff that allows team mates to do their jobs. Not sure Hogan will make it into either club's 25 man squad, but we live in hope.
I was in my fcuk breaking rules. Reported for false accusations and abuse of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta