At least you will be able to concentrate on you're music career if you give up on Harps ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
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At least you will be able to concentrate on you're music career if you give up on Harps ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I'm not quite sure why you've put "league" in inverted commas there. Is it because you don't think the LOI is deserving of the name? Is it because it's secretly a knockout competition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean South
Anyway, Nigel didn't say he wouldn't turn up if the opposition were Waterford again, and again, and again, he said he'd prefer a bit of variety in the opposition. That's a fairly normal sentiment, even if you don't share it.
Just a question for fans of the clubs who would be in a position of entering a reserve team into the first division if it came to that.
As ye would now have a club with 2 teams in the senior divisions, would ye be going to see both teams play or just the 1st team?
If City entered a reserve team into the First Division I'd likely buy a season ticket - depending on when the fixtures were due to be played. I doubt I'd get to many if any away games. Perhaps Cobh but that would be about it bar maybe one random overnight trip in the summer.
Genuinely I don't think many would pay to see them play. I used to pop along to the odd A league game and even free, there were max of 150 at most of them. If "senior" season tickets allowed entry into the games, the higher profile games might do OKQuote:
Originally Posted by Terry
It would obviously depend on scheduling etc (eg 1st team away to Derry on a Friday, 2nd team at home to Galway on the Saturday might be OK)
I don't think there'd be many takers for those. If it was free, aye, or maybe a joint first/reserve team season ticket could be an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Depending on when the fixtures are, I'd make an effort to Derry ones. I couldn't see many people being willing to pay into the games though. As it is at the minute, our reserve/U21 games are free in, and get a handful of people. I'd only get to a few a season myself, though would certainly attend more if we were playing First Division teams.
Taking a leaf out of the GAA's book, having a double header (reserve match, followed by first team match) could work. Not sure how practical it would be for Friday night games though.
Went to see Basel II the other day, lucky if there were 100 at the game. Considering the first team get about 12/14000 at an average league game it was interesting to see how low the turnout was, on the same day as the first team with free entry. just imagine what it would be like in the LOI!!!
Another twist in the saga? Johnny Glynn not impressed.
http://www.connachttribune.ie/sport/...ervue-from-loi
Interesting saying that the announcement and prospective withdrawal has actually been a motivation for the players. If Mervue do reach those play-offs, it might just be one more nail in the Galway FC coffin. There must be people involved with the club who don't want to leave the LOI.
As a supporter of a club currently in the FD, and in all likelihood one that will be there again next season, I wouldn't turn up to watch us play a reserve team, irrespective of their quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
'Galling' wouldn't even begin to describe it.
I'm also delighted Glynn spoke out. Mervue have proved themselves the equal of any team in the FD this season, and I fancy them to make the playoffs. I hope they don't, 'cause if we make it as well, they'll win.
There is only one member who wants them to stay in. Their stay in the LOI has financially crippled them as it has salthill where another ego maniac is the reason they are still in the league. Last weeks game against Longford Town saw a crowd of Approx 200 to see Mervue's biggest ever game and Lonford had the majority of supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
our u19 games are a fiver. We'd get a couple of hundred some days. I try and get out to see them but Sunday afternoons usually don't suit me - I'm currently at work. I'd make an effort to get out and watch a City reserve team if they played on Saturdays.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
What's the usual set-up of B teams as in are players registered to play for one team or both? Is the B team treated as if it were a different club. If you play for the first team, you're unable to play for the B team unless you're registered during a transfer window etc.?Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
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Originally Posted by legendz
The way it works for Harps with the Ulster Senior League, is that after you make a certain number of appearances for the first team, you're deemed a 'senior player' as opposed to a reserve, so you'd be ineligible.
There is a recently setup Twitter feed about a possible team from Meath based in Navan entering the League of Ireland: https://twitter.com/meathsoccerteam
It is mentioned on they were contacted by the FAI yesterday, so maybe the wheels might be in motion?
Looks like a spoof to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Thought it was kids myself who are actually serious about it, so I didn't take the p iss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
There's two of those pages, both on Twitter and Facebook. Seems like kids who haven't a clue really. When I enquired as to where they were getting the money and the facilities, and all within the year timeframe they're giving themselves, they didn't have any answers only "we're just trying to get LOI football to Meath".
In fairness, the LOI has seen worse plans!
I suppose every team has to start somewhere. FB page says they want to enter a team in the LSL, which is probably a more realistic ambition.
No mention of Champions League group stages, 20,000 all seater stadium in Kells, full-time pros. Not even a DVD for cryin' out loud.
I want to see all of that before I start to take them seriously.
It is so hard to get an LOI team going in such an area. Even if such a project had major financial backing you'd wonder if it would ever have the local support to make it viable.
It is a spoof page set up by a group of clowns of twitter who doe nothing but talk absolute scutter. They have a laois fc one too i think.
Yeah, clearly a feeble wind-up, although the Canadian dude behind this was entirely serious, but totally deluded. Tried to enter the LSL and got laughed out of it.
How did I never hear of this before? That is absolutely hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
But Meath already have a club...
It was way before our time Charlie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Are Drogheda planning to move again?
John Caulfield hinted in his press conference this week that we might be considering entering a First Division team, he kept it vague but said the 'rumblings' were that the FAI were looking for clubs to consider it.
He mentioned cost was a factor but that he wants it to happen so the door seems to be open for it.
But I thought the FAI only wanted to help Shamrock Rovers at the expense of everybody else :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
Yes. this season. Pay attention Charlie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Ah right, mission accomplished so. Hopefully our mates at the FAI will force a couple of clubs into administration to allow us to compete.
Explain if you would. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...on-266390.html
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Caulfield envisages Cork City ‘B’ side playing First Division
By Denis Hurley
Cork City manager John Caulfield is in favour of the club following Shamrock Rovers and fielding a second team in the First Division of the SSE Airtricity League.
Keen to ensure players not in the first team retain match sharpness, Caulfield is keen to explore all avenues and believes a B team — as Rovers have this season — would best suit the club’s needs.
“People talk about the Munster Senior League being an option for us to get into and it possibly would, however that’s not the answer in the long term because you can’t play professional players,” Caulfield said.
“Even if we asked them if we could get in, we couldn’t play any of the fellas who are on the bench, so it’s not helping their situations.
“The ideal situation is either that there’s an U20 or 21 league or that we try to get into the first division. It looks as if the FAI are looking at expanding the First Division with reserve teams and if they are, that’s the way we should go. The problem is that the cost factor is huge, but in my opinion I would love it as it would be the answer to our problems.
“We could keep the U19s after their season ends and, as well, I believe that we would get about four or five hundred people at games.”
Caulfield will be forced to dip into his pool of reserves for tomorrow night’s clash with Bohemians at Turner’s Cross (kick-off 7.45pm) as Darren Dennehy misses out through suspension. The centre-back was red carded in Monday’s win over UCD, and Caulfield had no qualms with the decision.
“I had a bit of a chat with him and he thought he’d get a toe-poke away,” he said. “It was a bit of a clumsy challenge. We looked at it and he realised that it was a stupid challenge and that getting a red card put us under pressure.
“The lads know how tough I am about keeping our discipline. Darren knew he deserved it but the main thing is that he learns from it, as if you want to be competing at the top of the table you have to be able to choose from all your best players.”
Tonight’s game will be City’s fourth Friday game in a row at home. The average home gate this season is above 4,000 and Caulfield knows how important it is to continue to attract big crowds.
“I keep saying it to the lads that it’d be great for the season to stay up at the top and the crowds keep coming. As a player, you want to be playing in front of 5,500 people. The atmosphere has been electric, coming off against Drogheda last week after the late goals was tremendous. Long may it continue, but we need the supporters every week, that vocal ferocity. At 1-1 against Drogheda, the crowd sensed it was a tight match and kept right behind us. There’s no doubt that they play a huge part.”
This would be potentially bad for Cobh Ramblers no? Both in terms of attendances, loaning young players, sponsors, etc. Perhaps ideally Cobh could be a de facto Cork City B. Or maybe the plan is precisely to substitute Cobh Rambers.
Plus having 9 clubs is a quite tricky number to have a decent schedule. That leaves you with 36 rounds with each team playing 32 times which would be too much. Or 27 rounds with 24 matches in case teams play each other 3 times which might be too little. You would need one more (or, as it's usually the case in Ireland, one less) team to come up with a good schedule.
Slowly bringing the death knell to the First Division and gives more fuel to an extended 18 team Premier Division.
Single-tier LOI would be death-knell of the LOI.
Why so?
I'd imagine they'd look for at least two more reserve teams next year - out of Cork, Pats, Sligo maybe - to get an even ten in the division (if no new clubs come forward that is).
So many teams with nothing to play for, many before a ball is even kicked, realistically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
As opposed to the teams already with nothing to play for? Shockingly poor argument against it really.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufcfan