I think 'experience' for Trap is like 'mentalitee.' It's not really something that can be measured using stats. It's something only Il Trap is qualified to assess.
I think 'experience' for Trap is like 'mentalitee.' It's not really something that can be measured using stats. It's something only Il Trap is qualified to assess.
In McClean's case, Trap might be saying he's "too young" just to keep him hungry and make sure he keeps up his club form - what he did on the pitch the other night wouldn't really have hurt his selection chances. Haven't Given, Duff and Long all made statements during the last week or so to the effect that McClean should travel? It would be difficult even for Trap to ignore the wishes of players, fans and the media.
So, where does 'personality' fit in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I think he sends them for free stress tests on Abbey St to determine personalitee.
Interesting move by the FAI.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...312713123.html
Is the motive to ensure competition for a place on the plane remains fierce as players fight it out to keep themselves within Trap's optic over the remainder of the season or did something of greater importance necessitate this specific clarification in particular?
The media do tend to get ahead of themselves and attach whatever meaning they like to Trap's ambiguous, enigmatic or simply incomprehensible pronouncements. The media were apparently certain that Shane Duffy was to feature in the second-half of the Czech game. The information age demands on-the-spot certainty, but Trap's just not that kind of guy. He had indicated nothing of the sort in relation to Duffy; he'd just said "maybe".
Donald Rumsfeld should handle Trapattoni's next press conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk
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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I think your first opinion has merit. Trap is conservative in nature and such a statement would ensure there is no complacency. For example, while I am a big fan of Stephen Hunt. his form at the moment is pretty ordinary and he has McClean looking over his shoulder. He has now to be thinking, will I make the plane?
Just on the squad numbers thing the other night, Duffy was wearing number 14 whilst Coleman was wearing number 20: https://twitter.com/#!/FAIreland/sta...37627995279360
So not sure if we can read much into the numbers that were allocated to each player.
As far as Coleman is concerned, he only came on for the last 2 minutes today for Everton. With only a few minutes football in the past 2 months, it's understandable he wasn't brought on on Wednesday.
Duffy favours the number 5 shirt, so perhaps it's a case of 1+4=5? You know footballers and their superstitions :)
Trivia on Duffy's number for Everton: he had been allocated the number 34 the season before his injury. In a strange coincidence, he ended up with 34 stitches from his surgery.
Also, with Jagielka seemingly on the mend for Everton, is it likely that Duffy will go out on loan again?
I suppose he might, it would be better to see him at a decent Championship side if that is the case rather than back to League One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
I think he'd have more interest from the Championship now after showing he can cut it in the Premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
http://www.universitytimes.ie/?p=9048
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Good piece, apart from the anti-McGeady bias! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fionnsci
Republic of Ireland fans vent frustration over Trapattoni tactics
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17274585
Optimism and excitement in the Republic of Ireland have given way to cynicism and a hardening of attitudes ahead of the country's first appearance at a major championship in 10 years.
The national team's veteran Italian coach, Giovanni Trapattoni, has not been without his critics for his conservative tactics and regimented approach during his four years in charge.
But many have been willing to concede that it has achieved its aims by leading the Irish to a European Championship for the first time since 1988.
The past week has seen a wave of frustration, however, with fans voicing their discontent during last Wednesday's 1-1 friendly draw with the Czech Republic in Dublin.
The match - Ireland's last before Trapattoni selects his final Euro 2012 squad ahead of a final warm-up tie with Bosnia in May - encapsulated the underlying frustration in the relationship between fans, media and manager.
With a number of promising creative players - including James McClean, James McCarthy and Seamus Coleman - waiting in the wings, the 72-year-old coach opted to start with many of the same players who featured throughout the qualifying campaign, leaving the young pretenders on the bench.
The move appeared to send a clear message to supporters and pundits that there would be no room to shuffle the pack ahead of the summer's daunting group ties with Croatia, world champions Spain and Italy.
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“You can set a course and that is what I have done with this team. But if you depart from the course then you end up on the rocks” Giovanni Trapattoni Republic of Ireland manager
McClean has leapt to the front of the queue of those players knocking on Trapattoni's door, after an incredible 12 months which has seen him go from one of the most promising players in the League of Ireland to one of the most talked-about in the English Premier League, thanks to a string of brilliant performances for Sunderland.
The 22-year-old's rise culminated in a clamour for him to be fast-tracked into the Irish squad, and has given Trapattoni one of the biggest selection headaches during his time in charge.
Despite that, the Italian waited until the 79th minute to hand the Sunderland winger his debut last Wednesday, but was left in no doubt as to the fans' feelings, with supporters giving the Derry man a standing ovation and a massive roar of approval, a reception which he admitted gave him "goosebumps".
What followed was a much less enjoyable experience for his international manager, with much of the media criticising Trapattoni's decision to introduce McClean with only 11 minutes to go, while McCarthy and Coleman saw no action at all.
Veteran Irish football pundit Eamon Dunphy described the Trapattoni approach as "amateurish and arrogant", while former Irish manager Brian Kerr predicted that the current system would see the Irish "run ragged" by their Group C opponents.
The fierce criticism saw the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) take the unusual step of issuing a statement on Friday, reacting to the press coverage by defending their manager's approach.
The FAI's response followed Trapattoni's comments in a press conference the day after the Czech draw in which he indicated that McCarthy and McClean were "too young" to make the European Championship squad.
The Italian also added: "I know the way it is with the media and the people and James [McClean] is young and full of enthusiasm. I'm happy for him. But [regular starters] [Aiden] McGeady and [Damien] Duff merit respect."
Clearly sensing that the comments could further inflame the situation, his employers sought to clarify the matter by stating that "nothing has been set in stone as regards [Trapattoni's] selections, and he will continue to monitor all players during the coming months".
Whether he does finally heed the calls for fresh blood, what is undeniable is the Irish boss's ability to get the best out of his core group of players, to whom he has stayed fiercely loyal.
The Czech result, achieved courtesy of a late Simon Cox equaliser after a pretty ordinary display from the home team, extended the Irish side's unbeaten run to 12 games in as many months.
And while many agonise over the lack of adventure in the manager's selections or tactics, the former Juventus boss maintains his side's most potent quality in Poland and Ukraine will be its unity.
Trapattoni says he can "smell the team spirit" among his squad of regulars, which includes the likes of Keith Andrews, Glenn Whelan and Kevin Doyle - all of whom have become established senior internationals under the Italian's guidance.
Duff himself also admitted that the established players were happy to stick with their tried and tested formula in June.
"Ah listen, we're not going to try something different at this stage," the Fulham player said last week.
"We've played 4-4-2 for years, especially since the boss has come in, so we know which way to play.
"We're playing Spain, Italy and Croatia - three of the best teams in Europe. They are going to have a lot of the ball, so we're going to have to keep a good shape about us."
The safety-first mentality, coupled with a cast-iron team ethic, may well deny the newcomers their chance to appear on one of the biggest stages in the game, then, as it appears the man who is never short of an analogy has charted his route through a choppy Group C.
"In the past [the Irish team] had ships with sails and they had to go wherever it was the wind took them," Trapattoni said last week.
"Now, you can set a course and that is what I have done with this team. But if you depart from the course then you end up on the rocks."
Whether the Irish manager can get all of the fans and media on board with his final squad selection, before his team set sail for their group venues of Poznan and Gdansk in the summer, is another matter.
No actual quotes from 'frustrated fans' though.
We qualify for a Finals at the 5th time of asking, hip hip horray.
No sooner have the celebrations died down but thoughts turn to 'we're going to get hammered first, then hung, drawn and quartered'.
Trap is a useless, know nothing, arrogant fool, what idiots we were to think he was going to be good for us, he's a disgrace to our....(ahem) wonderful football culture :rolleyes:
I think the Irish public are embarrassing themselves over all this and showing themselves as too impressionable. There seems to be a view in Irish culture in the last decade that the alternative is always better.
How does one gauge what the consensus actually is amongst the general public? What is the consensus?
Bumping thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lctoiedOWc
Closed thread.