Revenge is a dish best served cold, and we well and truly served it to them last night. We very rarely win games 5-0, enjoy it while it lasts. I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
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Revenge is a dish best served cold, and we well and truly served it to them last night. We very rarely win games 5-0, enjoy it while it lasts. I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
it really doesn't bother me playing NI or beating them.
I dont understand why anyone cares either from the republic.
It does upset me though that there were all these eejits booing their anthem and what not, especially given how well the queens visit was received.
I imagine that the majority won't be overly bothered. There may be some annoyance about the timing of him saying it but that's about it. People know he gives his all, he's one of our best players and it's no real surprise he supports the ROI anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Some may be angry with him, but I think that's more a case of being ****ed off at getting bent over and bummed like a good 'un by our "rivals" (I don't think it's a rivalry really, international teams tend not to play each other often enough for genuine rivalry's to develop) and they are just directing their anger at everything and anything.
I'd say it must have rankled quite a bit, the timing didnt help but at any time, that must have stung. I think you are being very diplomatic about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by awec
Well, in these modern times all we can be is diplomatic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Of course you are... I mean isn't that what the big hullabaloo is over on the other side whereby people blindly believe what others say without consulting the facts or experts. You and geysir have summed it up in here so succintly that really to go back to you would be an insult to your original efforts to sort it out once and for all.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Enough ego massage for today? :P
In fairness though there's a lot I thought I knew that has been cleared up by some of your postings. So yeah... screw CAS, Danny for Prez!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_btPLpTZdSH...px-Bashful.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
I have to admit, I enjoy reading Danny's posts because they at least make a bit of sense. You too BonnieShels.
There are a few people on here you just have to take with a pinch of salt though.
My irrationality started to wane once Sporting Fingal and FF went the way of the Celtic tiger.Quote:
Originally Posted by awec
I see Niall McGinn got a bit of an undeserved roasting in the Scottish Sun over the post-match "revelation" that he supports Ireland: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...5-0-Niall.html
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FURIOUS Northern Ireland fans have slammed Celtic star Niall McGinn after he declared his support for the Republic - minutes after they thrashed HIS side.
The dozy Northern Irish ace made the barmy comments following a 5-0 drubbing at the hands of their bitter rivals.
McGinn, 23 - who was sent a live bullet in the post by a maniac - also boasted about how he had grabbed the Republic of Ireland jersey of ex-Hoops star Robbie Keane.
Interviewed after the Carling Nations Cup trouncing, winger McGinn - who had come on as a sub - said: "It's always good to feature in games like that.
"I'm a Republic of Ireland fan and it's obviously good to play against them.
"I think the only good thing to come out of tonight is that I got Robbie Keane's jersey."
But last night fuming Northern Irish fans had blasted McGinn on his Twitter page.
One wrote: "Republic of Ireland supporter? Don't bother playing for NI again you f****** p****. F*** away off."
Another added: "Timing of those comments couldn't have been any worse. At least you could have said they were your second preference."
Previous clashes between the sides in the past have sparked major security operations.
But this time just 200 Northern Ireland fans made the trip to Dublin after supporters accused rival bosses of trying to poach their players.
And at Tuesday's match in the tournament, which also features Scotland, most of the 15,000 fans booed each other's national anthems.
Horrific reporting. The papers really do enjoy sensationalising things.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
errr... didnt he just say only 200 NI fans made the trip... so they boo'd our national anthem? did anyone hear them lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
It seems a lot of NI fans have formed somewhat a defeatist attitude in terms of creating a new shared identity amongst their support, and are now just happy to represent one side due to all the "poaching" as they call it that went on.
Any newspaper reporter who uses tweets or anonymous fan quotes from the internet should be immediately fired and, if possible, given a light kicking.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Here here!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
It's gutter press.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
If you go on twitter you could find angry tweets from millions of people about millions of different things and they are indicative of nothing. It's just an easy way out for journos who have column inches to fill.
Well if only some journos could find their way to this corner of the internet... I'm sure they could pick up some stories!Quote:
Originally Posted by awec
:rolleyes:
I was informed a group of them turned their backs when 'Amhrán na bhFiann' was played. But then, that was just straight after some in our support had a boo for about 20 or 30 seconds over 'God Save the Queen'.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
some of the idiots in our support did the same for GSTQ, and gave out stink to anyone who wasn't doing the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I hate it when supporters let political allegiances enter sport. This may sound naive, but such actions feed and nurture the hatred many NI fans feel towards the South Such actions are then used to reinforce the narow minded opinions these people have. I would think a thread on OWC has already been created in relation to this.
It's kind of inevitable in a sphere where disputed or contentious political boundaries dictate representative teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
To be fair gastric, even if it hadn't happened, they would have done!
Maybe the answer is to comeback with an anthem that's not so contentious.
Somehow don't think 'Danny Boy' would have provoked the same reaction....
The fact that the majority didn't boo suggests there's nothing inevitable about it. The booing reflects on those who chose to do it, not the history they might suggest made it inevitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Hmm... inevitable, likely, expected, unsurprising; more or less, they mean the same thing in this context and any could have been used as an adjective to describe why I felt political allegiances making their way into international football was, in many ways, an unavoidable phenomenon due to the inherent nature of international football itself.
It reflects on a lot more in reality; certainly not just on a minority booing from within an apparent vacuum. Why and what do you think it reflects only on those who chose to boo?
Lads, thanks for your comments. As I said it is possibly a naive point of view, but I hate the fact that extemists can use such behaviour to further their political views as there are many stupid enough to listen.
My point is that there were a majority of people at the game whose political allegiances are the same as those who were booing, yet this allegiance didn't manifest itself in the form of booing the anthem of another country. So, for some, this manifestation was clearly avoidable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I'll rephrase - it reflects badly on only those who chose to boo.Quote:
Why and what do you think it reflects only on those who chose to boo?
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Originally Posted by gastric
I don't think a bunch of youngfellas who watch 3 Celtic games a year and don't vote can be called extremists. Skangers may be a much more suitable word
Niall is quoted by the BBC last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
"...the bottom line is that I was born in Northern Ireland, I chose to play for Northern Ireland and I will always give 100 per cent every time I play for Northern Ireland. I love playing for Northern Ireland and the fans have been good to me - I have no regrets."
The highlighted bit is all that really matters.
Starts tonight v Wales.
I think people have let their imaginations run a little bit with regard to what he said. I'm sure there are plenty of players in the team who'd be NI fans first and ROI fans second, so saying he's a Republic of Ireland fan doesn't mean they'd be his first choice.
Aside from mouth-foaming keyboard warriors, what would you say the reaction to what he said has been like amongst NI support generally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
I think he was unambiguously saying he was an outright ROI fan. I'm sure Deco was an outright Brazil fan when excelling for Portugal though.
Generally, a bit naive on his timing, but so what if he supports the Republic. As long as he gives the Northern Ireland jersey 100%, that's all that can be asked of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
He's hardly the only player in the NI squad that supports us. I'm sure there's plenty of England supporters in the NI squad as well. Maik Taylor could be a massive German fan for all we know.
I'm sure players like Simon Cox and Paul Green are England fans as would others be in our squad.
That was my impression too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
What a difference a tactfully placed 'also' would have made: "I'm also a Republic of Ireland fan so it was great to play against them."
But I guess he was in a hurry. ;)
Probably just too excited about getting Robbie's jersey ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
If anything that would surely be the most galling aspect for an NI fan - McGinn admitting such fan-boy deference to an ROI player, is David Healy not enough?!
Or "I'm a Republic fan, but I also keep an eye out for the NI result on AERTEL from time to time!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
Expect a few more to step forward and say "I'm a Republic fan"
Well that's just a political view. I'm sure there's a lot of people in the six who dislike constitutional monarchies but support being part of the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I can also confirm the (partial) Ulster Banner and not the Ulster Provincial flag is flying high from the roof of Lansdowne. The FAI wouldn't make the same mistake twice would they?
Will the floodgates open?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Has anyone at the FAI explained how that happened? It is a bit strange, especially considering NI already played Scotland at Lansdowne a few months ago and the FAI would presumably have had an Ulster Banner in their possession since that. It would be extremely cynical to suspect some prankster within the FAI of mischief but how does something like that happen as innocent error? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Why is it the 'Ulster Banner' ??
Whatever it is, the North can hardly be referred to as 'Ulster'....