The players weren't laid off. That's why the players could hold on for (in theory) their full contract. The nature of working as a footballer means you can't be made redundant.
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Hope Galway get sorted. Always the 1st away fixture I look for since I started college down there. Be waste to have such a good ground not used in Premier.
Sounds like a bit of horseplay from worried John and his merry band of lackies to be honest.
If we get kicked out of the League on some nonsense considering how well ran the club is I'll actually be able to walk away and not really give a toss, amazed how non annoyed I am by the whole thing.
With regards to all the other nonsense surely the sensible thing (i know, i know, bear with me) to do would be to bump monaghan up to the premier with drogheda (lol btw) and have galway and cobh take their places in the first.
After 30+ years of ups and downs with this club today is the lowest ever.
Thanks to those who are not celebrating our aparent demise.
Gutted beyond words
Yeah that's part of it. Supposedly cos our referee's facilities aren't big enough (I think you need separate ones for female refs/assisatnts) and we don't have a separate first aid room as far as I know. Wasn't a problem before - we always got a Premier licence - so not sure if it's true. We have 3000 covered seats because the FAI wanted that, we have a second entrance because they wanted that, we have a kids academy and are setting up a ladies team because they wanted that. It wouldn't have made a difference to which division we were in, but I'm still surprised as to where the priorities lie. Could we have presented them with a plan for a bigger refs room to fob the FAI off?
I have to say I was shocked about Galway and surprised about others. I thought they'd be ok. I was just expecting it to be between Mons and Drogs for the last spot. From any outsider's view it really is crazy. For various reasons the teams who came 4th and 8th in the top flight won't be in the league at all next year, but the 9th and 10th premier teams will be in the top flight as well as 1st and 3rd in the first division. The teams who came 2nd and 4th in the first stay in the first, but the team who came 5th mightn't be in the league at all and we don't know how many teams will be in the first division or how many times they'll play each other. Luckily they published the fixtures in December!!! Y'know the thing that happens from March to November where we play loads of games - does that really have any bearing on what happens?
How can BOHS say they dont owe Money to anyone. You needed the FAI to BAIL you out, yous didnt pay your players, yous couldnt honour your players contracts. Your financial state is a joke. THe FAI are a joke, the LEAGUE is a joke. Cork werent bailed out, Derry werent bailed out, Shels werent, Shamrock Rovers werent, and you still get a licence. Feel sorry for Galway fans and rest of the clubs in the league.
Galway confirm appeal: http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/4936/
hmmm, you'd want to read his post again there Flexy and see if you get it at the second time of reading. You also might provide a bit of proof that the FAI bailed Bohs out while youre at it as it goes against all media reports and releases. And also chill out. Theres a good lad.
seems pretty cut and dry from this
'Nevertheless, the FAI have also confirmed to ExtraTime.ie that no new material may be submitted in the appeal. If that is the case, then it looks unlikely that Galway will be in the Premier Division next year.'
I mean if you say now that they didn't deserve to fail, than why fail them in the first place?
Yep it's just a way of making another couple of grand out of the process. I'm struggling to think of any successful appeals in recent years.
I'm just amazed that apparently all the other clubs had a valid tax clearance cert. :eek:
Could we see a bit of a push from Mervue or Salthill now, there's potential for a mediocre Premier club in that town if twas run right like.
Might Waterford consider an appeal? And if they were successful would they then get the premier place?
Hendo isn't qualified is about the long and the short of it, regardless of anything else.
Suppose they could sack him and get in Roddy Collins or someone.
Apparently that would be unbecoming of us! I'd believe no one man is bigger than the club, but I'd say that's a side issue anyway. Not going to be relevant. I had no expectations of promotion. Seems Mons leapfrogged us after winning the first part of the play-off series. The one where it was Waterford United 1 Monaghan United 3 reffed by P.McLaughlin (Monaghan). Now if Drogheda, Bohs or anyone else should go bust in the next few weeks, we'd seemingly be passed over for promotion in favour of Shels whose Tolka Park ground is now a beacon of Premier-standard beauty. I'm messing though - not worried one way or the other. I'm prepared to spend another season fretting over results and travelling around the country and then waiting til next February to see whether we're deemed worthy or not.
It finally confirms what an absolute joke the Independent Assessment Group was in 2006. Did Galway finish top of the off-field criteria? The model to which we were all to aspire. Now they're not good enough for the league. That's not a cut at Galway fans - I have deep sympathy for ye - just the running of the league. How would Monaghan, Mervue, Salthill fare on those criteria - potential attendances, etc?
Nick Leeson is on his way to Abbotstown as we speak with a can of petrol!
I wondered what was going to happen when decisions on licences had to be made. You only have yourselves to blame, shame on you for trying to point out the flaws in obviously intelligent, transparent and correct communication and administration from those who would rule us :-)
One can only presume they were promoted based off the lies of those that have now dragged the club down to the A Championship
I recall the fans celebrating then, so I have no sympathy for them. A few of us made mention of Leeson's past misdeeds, gave warnings not to trust the man even, but we were told we were bitter about Galway's promotion.
A sad day for those who don't believe in ironic retribution
Think the fai should just ditch the traditional method of who should be champions, promoted relegated and instead award these honours to clubs with best/worst licence application alone. At least it would save on players wages
If it's the Tax thing for Galway like extratime.ie suggest, then they're screwed
Not so long ago Galway were boasting in the national media about their €1.2 million budget for the season, Niall Quinn was at Galway races with the championship trophy, Sunderland came to open a new stand, crowds of over 2000, businessmen were tripping over each other trying to get fat sponsorship cheques to media darling Leeson, and the over exited idiot chairman proclaimed GUFC to be the biggest club in Connaught, you have to forgive the Sligo Rovers fans for having a quiet chuckle
Not so long ago Galway United were finishing above Sligo - played in the Premier Division for a couple of season at the start of the last decade when Sligo were in the First Division. We finished 3rd to their 6th in 2002/03 First Division campaign, and fifth to their seventh in the 2004 campaign. Don't know what stand Sunderland came over to open, but it wasn't in Terryland. Yes, they played a friendly there mind, no more than Everton played in the Showgrounds and Real Madrid played in Tallaght, and Barcelona would have played in Thomond only for the FAI to stick their oar in. Your point? And heaven forbid businessmen, or anyone else, would want to put money into the club, that's just madness. Bertie Ahern and the FIanna Fail tent at the Galway Races, that's Galway United's fault as well, yeah? Well, it is just as tenuous a link as your insightful observation. I'll agree with your point about the chairman being an idiot though.
Sorry, just feeling very raw right now
Did we not appeal in the first year of licensing?
Iirc, it was because we didn't have our accounts signed off with the (southern) Revenue. Can't remember if we got them signed off eventually, or the rules were just changed so that we could get them signed off by northern Revenue instead.
Yeah there were a few appeals in the first couple of years. I think in the first year pretty much the whole league failed first time around but over the last three or four there hasn't been many successes. Clubs are supposed to know what they have to do and when they have to do it by. That's the FAI's thinking anyway.
Exactly The Lep. I love Galway United and, daft as it sounds, I love the League of Ireland. If United go to the A Championship, then so do I. If the club folds and does not return in some other guise, I'll still follow the league, just not any particular club (apart from those playing Mervue and Salthill, naturally. And Sligo. Oh, Limerick too. And not forgetting Dundalk for the League Cup final loss in 1980. Shams handed us a few pastings last season so them as well. And Longford dumped us out of the Cup a couple of seasons ago, so might as well add them. And Derry for our record defeat. And Pats for taking our best players in the 1990s. Drogheda beat us in a promotion play-off in controversial circumstances so they're on the list as well. I got sick in St Colman's Park once so 'boo' for Cobh. And Harps for beating us in an FAI Cup semi-final. As did Shels, so ditto them. )
John Delaney, if you are reading this, I have caught wind of what I think might have been your plan.
YOU ARE A BIG JOKE. :D
Limerick FC 2 The FAI 0.
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Why bother playing league football, if the authorities determine what level you play at, and not what position you actually achieve !
from what i heard Galway wer shafted by the FAI for 2 football debts totaling less than 8k and a late delivery of a tax clearance cert ...its beggers belief how other clubs seem to have far great debts than this a get a licence ,i wonder is it anything to do with galway having 3 clubs and the FAI needing to reduce them?
Anyway it looks like the end for united ,cant see enough support for us in the first division ,and we defo wont be playing in the A championship in Terryland as the costs would be too great to hire the ground for such games :waving:
The problem is Guitd that those are the rules. I agree it seems harsh but your club knew that they needed to have those sorted before yesterday.
I agree that Bohs are a shambles, close to Cork City under Tom Coughlan levels (though not quite) but the fact is they managed to meet the minimum requirements and as such the FAI can't prevent them from playing in the Premier.
every club knows you have to have your football debts sorted and get the tax man on board or you don't get a license. I'm gutted for ye to be honest. I really am, and I remember how hard things were for us this time last year. At least we had the first division. But ye will be stronger for this if ye can get up out of the A championship quickly
The Annual Galway United Crisis has started early this year.
Gutted for Galway. I just can't help but wonder why the FAI feel justified in bending over backwords for some clubs and throwing the book at others.
A lot are complaining about the licensing situation and places in the league next season being decided off the field and not on. I think this would only be a fair arguement if every team played by the rules, signed who they could afford, stayed within budget and didn't delay on payments to players and everyone had their house in order. Only then could we really complain about the committee deciding the leagues and not the success on the field. As we all know in this league a successful or relatively successful club on the field doesn't neccessarily mean a well run club behind the scenes.
Still shocked about Galway though. Is there any cheaper grounds they could use to play at if they where to continue in the A Championship as i know Terryland would be too expensive?
On the Limerick situation i'd be interested to know what they mean. If Pat O Sullivan says the funds for running the club are secure is that good enough or what are they looking for?