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Originally Posted by Louth4sam
Sounds like a serious conflict of interests to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
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Originally Posted by Louth4sam
Sounds like a serious conflict of interests to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Isnt today the deadline? The silence is deafening.
Even their forum is dead. Saying a novena* as I type.
*well I would if I knew one.
I'm torn. I like Drogheda but then they'd prob be replaced by Cobh and I miss Cobh.
Theres no way they will let the club fold. They will simply grab the €75k thats been raised so far in the share thingy and come back cap-in-hand to the fans again before the season ends.
So was this 200k mark a scare tactic? Strange it's all very quiet in South Louth today.
Some astute observors on here were calling it this way from an early stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunny
Remember that Drogheda said that €55k would allow them to meet their licencing liabilities. If they have raised €20k - €30k more then this I reckon it's game on to start the season
Think everyones getting really p!ssed off now at this stage. Lads running the club are doing their very best but the share offer has only 70 expressions of interest , even some of them are having second thoughts about it now , there's barely enough to cover the debt. I'd say they're working on plans X , Y and Z at the moment.
If Cobh replace Fingal, who lines up next in Drogheda implode?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
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Originally Posted by legendz
Well, out of last year's A Championship teams, FC Carlow were the next highest non-reserve side, in fifth. Castlebar and Tralee both were seventh in their respective groups, but Tralee got more points. Tullamore are the other side. Whatever happens, expect there to be fudge! To be honest, if we lose both Fingal and Drogheda, possibly Bohs and Galway, and any other club with problems, there doesn't seem to be any point to the A Championship.
That's harsh on the A Championship. It has these 3-4 clubs available to join the league, if needed. If other clubs fall like Cobh did in the past, the A Championship is an ok interim league to be part of. Clubs can look to build for the LoI proper. Wasn't there a story Drogheda would seek an A licence if it came to that?
It's better for the league that the A Championship is there for this, leaving the first division up in a position to have some sort of stability.
Instead of fudging, not to go once again but.., maybe it's time to reduce the number of clubs from 22 to 20, running two divisions of 10 each. The A Championship should be retained, removing the stipulation Premier clubs have to field an A side. Any expansion of the league in the future should be put on hold until more clubs can show they can hold the required licences without all the fudging.
The A Championship is gone, dead, finished after this year.
FC Carlow play in a field at the back of a housing estate.
If any good junior club is crazy enough to want to join the League Of Ireland they can be accomodated in the First Division.
When the play-off winners would replace Fingal, I'd imagine in Drogheda's case it would be open applications, with any interested club judged by licencing criteria - Carlow and Tralee would put their names forward anyway, not sure how interested/ready Castlebar and Tullamore would be. It says a lot that even after the regular updates on this and the Bohs and Galway threads, we're still trying to second-guess if they can get a licence on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
Easily, as you could expand it to a position of a straight home and away if necessary. Problem should in theory be licencing, but when has that ever been a problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
whats goin to happen when the a championship goes with the likes of FC Carlow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
I don't know.
If any club wants to and meets the standard they could step up to the First Division, if not they can play in whatever Senior League.
Don't get me wrong I think it's a shame the A Championship is going, it's definitely served a purpose for Limerick, but I just wouldn't agree with the suggestion that it's the only and best way for clubs to step up to the League.
The best thing the FAI could do is give the Premier Division a position of strength with 16 clubs playing straight home and away. The top 6 from division one last year and maybe one or two more, can make the step-up to the Premier.
The rest of the clubs then, be it any number from 8 to 11 or more, should be welcome to participate in Division One. The number of series and games then will have to be worked around that. 8 can play 28 over 4 series, 10 will probably play 27 over 3 series.
Now there is a thought, im surprised nobody thoiught of that before????Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Hearing rumours Drogs willpull put just like Fingal? Anyone else get this?
If they are to, which will be sad to hear, the LoI will be left with two divisions of 10. If true, are the FAI sure bringing the curtain down on the A Championship is a good idea? If the Drog's have to bow out, I hope they can at least be accommodated in the A Championship as Cobh were.
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Originally Posted by **FrOsTy**
Im hearing the opposite(that they will take up the offer to play in the top leauge) from some Drog fans but seems to be pure speculation and has no bones to it !!
Source is something from the Cork forum. Not the best of sources hence why I asked here. A drogs fan I know said the club will have no problem getting a prem licence. But with rumours like this there is never smoke without fire.
Heard talk at our game tonight that they'll turn down the offer Premier Division football anyway but wouldn't place a huge amount of trust in the source! Monaghan up in that case presumably?
The opinion among the Drog fans i know is that it would be easier to secure sponsers, sell the shares and get bigger home crowds plus the rest that goes with being in the PD.......
Maybe one or two of them on here would like too stick up their opinion(s) ???
Assuming that Drogheda are fit to get a licence (agreements on licence-critical debts etc) then they should get a premier licence.
I think it is a no-brainer for them to take up the PD spot. Even allowing for the probability that an amateur squad would probably be uncompetitive, they are likely to have a higher income possibilities (especially sponsorship and gates) and probably lower travel costs. If the PD is the place for them to be as they rebuild over future seasons, they are far more likely to be in the 2012 PD by starting this season in the premier as opposed to the first.
You have to get a premier licence to play in the premier so who knows who will be where until Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
True. I can confidently predict we'll be playing First Division football with a Premier Licence however. Unless almost all the Premier Division clubs unexpectedly fail to gain Premier Licences.
Seems our club have resubmitted their budget with regard to playing Premier division football. It makes sense financially for us and most fans seem to be happy enough. Tho some are also saying that this move could cause even more apathy among an already disillusioned fanbase as we'll be hammered every week (even worse than last season!!)
It's tough on Monaghan. Had they played the Drog's last season in the play-off, they might have had a better chance of beating them.
Here's an unofficial Monaghan take on things.
http://monaghanunited.tv/?p=291
It is hard to turn down a place in the top division. However, it is nearly impossible to rebuild the club and the fanbase while fighting relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior
I'm not sure going into the Premier is the wisest choice. It is understandable though.
I can't see how this resubmitting can be allowed. Surely you apply for a licence at the right time and the decision is made. The final extended deadline was 28 January. Whatever about Monaghan's own shortcomings re stadium which they have plans to address, I can't see how Drogs can get in with a stadium they don't own which failed the capacity criterion in previous seasons and with 55k in outstanding debts.
Is it true Delaney gave some of his own money towards the Drog's?
Yes, €5,000 (five €1,000 shares)Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
He bought a couple of their share thingies. No big deal IMO. If it helped save a club, all the betterQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
The done the same for Cork City (the old version) and Derry City last season if I'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
From that this gem from DroghedaQuote:
Drogheda in pole position as Sporting fold
EMMET MALONE
DROGHEDA UNITED and Monaghan United have both indicated their firm interest in replacing Sporting Fingal in the Premier Division for the coming season after it was confirmed the Dublin club will cease trading as a result of failing to secure new financial backing ahead of this weekend’s licensing deadline.
According to the league’s rules, Drogheda are first in line to fill the vacancy with Monaghan and Waterford United second and third respectively but the FAI said last night that the decision on which club to offer the place to will be based on the outcome of Sunday’s Licensing Committee meeting.
Read more: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...289522624.html
The talking to potential backers trick worked out real successfully for Sporting Fingal this week :curse:Quote:
No, we’ve been talking to potential backers in recent weeks and the message we’ve had back loud and clear is that everything changes if we’re in the Premier Division."
And the secret of success:
"If we can keep the playing budget low but increase our income then really everything becomes manageable.”
I love Drogs, dont get me wrong and I know as a Mons fan I am biased but all that aside, wouldnt the premier be better with a stable club who have budgeted for premier without waiting for "potential backers"? Any sponsorship we get will be bonus to what we have budgeted for in 2011.
Exactly, I really hope Drogheda don't go for it relying on backers and by the end of the season end up worse off than they are. How long would those backers be there if Drogheda struggle for another season and end up relegated regardless or the backers don't have the money the same money they had at the start of the season by mid way through.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
I think there is good proof there that going down to the First and rebuilding is working for most. Derry managed to go straight back up, Cork City are probably in a better place stability wise, the same goes for Shels. Monaghan have done things right and are the better for it (unlucky to just miss out last season and will challange again this season). Limerick are also in a better position than they where a few years ago (albeit we've been stuck down here for 17years). Shamrock Rovers are now in a great position and Dundalk are doing things right and reaping the rewards. All these teams have served their time in the first and are the better for it. You could probably throw Sligo in there too. Since being in the First and going back up they have got stronger by the year.