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Originally Posted by mypost
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Originally Posted by mypost
Or two hundred in Shams case
there was a rovers fan on the pitch at the same time, because the youngfella in white top kicked out at him,Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
if he wasnt on the pitch either, then the bloke in white gets fooked off the pitch or gets arrested. now if rovers didnt come onto the pitch to "celebrate", i dont know why you feel to celebrate on the pitch, then last nite wouldnt have happened imo.
fair play to davey mac and danny north who came over and applauded the pats fans throughout all that
When hoodie climbed over the fence, there were no Hoops on the pitch until he got to the halfway line. I did check. I don't go on pitches to celebrate anything, don't see the point, but it's the sport culture to do it in this country, and our fans won't be the last to do it either. The trouble with pitch invasions, is that someone won't stop at merely celebrating. And when that happens, all hell breaks loose.
But there has been numerous incidents at this fixture in that ground, going back at least 10 years. First it was stones, then it was stabs, now it's bottles and umbrellas. The stewarding is, and always has been a joke there, and has to be sorted out.
Clubs find it nigh impossible to get fans to volunteer to steward as it is; if scenes like last night go on then it's harder again. We all don't have council cash or civil defense to cover costs like paid stewards, whom in the case of Frontline, are even worse again.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
It's either the same 100-200 involved in trouble every time over the years or else it's a different group at every game. There is no way that SRFC management and officials can say they don't know anybody involved time and time and time again,Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Taken from the big book of cliches?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
All that sort of carry on needs to break out is one idiot. It may seem good natured then but....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Every club has a few dopes supporting them but not in the same numbers and not with the same intent and frequency.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
As I said last night, whenever you hear of trouble at games you always see the name of Rovers come up and it's rarely at their home games. Not ****ting on their own doorsteps, are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Just one point on the "hangers on" argument. Every Rovers fan who got a ticket for last night was either a member, or a season ticket holder
Rovers chairman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPze_VSejFk
Thats not true. But carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Absolutely not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Not quite Dodge, myself for example couldn't get to tallaght on Monday night so I bought a Pats ticket from the booth last night and strolled into the Rovers end with it no questions asked. if I did it I'm sure others would have also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
On 2fm now! Colm hayes show
Just a question, should you sack your Rovers insider? He never seems to be right...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Just a thought for umbrella man for next time.
http://crunchgear.com/wp-content/upl...d_umbrella.jpg
Very handy for deflecting bottles
Who coined the term 'Model Club?'
I posted this before last night's game, little did I know that there'd be a the night of the long brolleys.Quote:
.... It would be nice to stay dry for a change.
Apologies. Still if the weather looks inclement for the final I know what to do now.
No Stu that's Aiden McGeady, must have nipped over as soon as the Chelsea game finishedQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I cant believe that these asheholes have any feelings for the clubs they must know that this only takes away from the success of the evening, terrible that the chairman spends his press conference taking about matters other than the game.
what a bunch of ********s...
Its old news at this stage but I can tell you exactly what happened since I was outside Mooneys when your lot were at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Club
The man in question who is the manager of Centra was on crutches at the door of Centra, he was stopping a few of your lot from coming in because last season they were robbing drink and one of them pulled a knife on him.
When he stopped a few young lads words were said and one of them grabbed one of his crutches and threw it out on the road.
He started swinging at them and this was all infront of their bus which was parked up beside Centra.
All thier mates from the bus (including the bus driver) came out Danny Dyer style and started flinging cans and bottles at the lad on crutches and at the Shop and smashed windows in the shop, they also ran up to a few young lads on the road Green Street style "giving it large" was fairly cringeworthy stuff.
Now I dont have a clue whos bus from Shams it was or who ran it or any of that, hence why I never once mentioned any of your supporters buses or anything like that.
This is common knowledge among Rovers fans and alot of people around after the game saw this.
I dont know whether you actually think im making this up for the craic or are just denying it happened to avoid the uncomfortable truth, but I can send you the lads name who was on crutches by PM if you wish and you can ask him his version of events the next time your down.
Not that this has anything to do with what happened last night, just as usual a sizeable amount of your support gives this league alot of negative publicity that it cannot afford, its not that anything is that serious, just really handbags especially compared to the 70's and 80's. I couldnt care less about the BSC and Shams Casuals because they largely leave it away from the grounds, its the scumbags who constantly give negative headlines to the rags in the public eye that I hate.
Anyway, congrats to Rovers on the win last night. From the highlights on the news, i thought the sending off was very harsh and didnt think it was even a free kick.
.......because you say so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
Ill make my own my own mind up thanks.
Its a knife wielding thug now is it?
Sensationalist bull usually ruins any chance of a proper discussion on here with agendas from both sides spiralling out of control and the facts getting lost among the vitriol-Thanks for adding yours!
if he continues to deny the problem the he is just reinforcing it. I hope the decent Rovers skins on here realise that the constant denial of a problem or trying to shift blame onto every other possible source is a sure fire way of eliminating the remaining goodwill they had built up since they reformed. Not that i care about the welfare of your club but its doing Shamrock Rovers no favours and if i was you id be hoping that Roche would be issuing 100 bans to the culprits from last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Not wishing to rub it in at all and recognising that we have an element too on occasion (though i dont think it is anywhere near the size of yours) and are by no means perfectly behaved, we have a pretty good record of banning known troublemakers from Dalymount and going to reasonable lengths to make sure that they didnt get in to away grounds too.
Anyway, all im saying is quit burying your heads in the sand as a club, quit denying there is a problem and take a stand against the scumbags.
In fairness, that's not just a Rovers problem. That's a problem throughout the league, and indeed throughout football. We've all asked Bohs fans the exact same thing for years (for "scumbags", read "the two Gerries"). Most fans are like that, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
(That's not to justify the club not taking any action against them; that's just to point out the way football fans are)
Handing out bans is one thing but how can they enforce them? There is nothing stopping them getting a ticket and a steward on a gate wont know who is banned or not. There is nothing stopping them going to away games either .
When Cork came to Limerick for the first time this season, they had a 'spotter' with them who identified troublemakers among the Cork fans, who were refused entry by the Limerick officials. It's possible to do it if the will is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Quoting that one part of the post really says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Club
Now I never once claimed that those lads who were bottling him and his shop had a knife, what I clearly said was the reason why he was stopping some of your fans getting into the shop was because last season some of your fans were robbing drink from the shop and one of them pulled a knife on him, hence why he was acting like a bouncer on the door of his shop, not very complex stuff, even for a mind like yours.
All this is fact and can be confirmed by your average punter in Mooneys when your down next, believe me there is actually no need to make up slander about your fans, they do all the hard work themselves.
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Originally Posted by Rasputin
it
go
To be fair, that's only because yous only have 1000 fans :D I'm sure the Salthill Devon lunatic fringe is smaller still.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
(Sorry :()
Still, as they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. It's good to see that the trouble has brought a surge of interest and expert comment on domestic football:
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A Gary Turner goal in the 70th minute of a tense cup tie had seen Rovers through to their first FAI Cup final since 1992
From the Herald:
That should have set off alarm bells - why would anyone be carrying an umbrella in October in Ireland?Quote:
The Rovers fan that led the charge was able to get into the game with an umbrella
And Rte tells us that:
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fans engaged in taunting
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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Seriously,take myposts advice,let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin
If someone pulled a knife in that area on that night then he would have been aprehended-Just as one who actually did rob beer was as there was plenty of Gards in that immediate area!
But in the real world no knife was pulled and no-one got arrested because it didn't happen although I'm sure the local dipsos in mooneys will disagree,but then I don't really care what they think.
I know if I had a shop that had been invaded by hoardes of knife wielding theives on previous occasions I'd close for ythe 2 hours or so or at the very least vett those entering-But again I live in the real world and not rasputin-land.
I was actually embarrassed for the two lads with the umbrellas.
The most shamefully inept display of 'hooliganism for dummies' I have ever seen.
Then they ran away from the woman who came on the pitch after them. :D
With respect as I do agree with your first point,what did you expect them to do? Hit her?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinxy
As you know, there is never ever ever any public disorder, muggings, stabbings, or other crime in Sligo, as Shamrock Rovers visiting is the major event in Sligo twice a year, and every sneeze during said visit needs reporting and stored for future reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Club
Why would he/they let it go?
End of the day, The clubs will both get fines and they should ban as many as they can that were on this pitch, If this does not happen then both clubs have a lot to answer to
On the Rovers fans being on the pitch i actually have no problem with that, they had just won a cup semi final of course some were going to get on, I would have been on the pitch if we had won, Its what they and Pats fans did when they got on the pitch that was the problem, Guards should have been there to stop anyone getting on and not standing outside in full riot gear leaning up against a wall like morons
Eh........no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Club
Not to worry, I'm still around these parts - although less and less frequently nowadays thanks to the amount of drivel and ****e posted on here...Quote:
Originally Posted by dfx-
I'm dipping in and out past few days - been catching up on my drinking and outside life (as it were) - doesn't concern me directly, so I'll leave it to between the Pats lads and yourselves...
The important stuff resumes on Friday coming
No panic, SkStu filled in.
In case it saves you some time, read post 144 and that Rovers won 1-0. The rest is likely bluster from both sides that is best spent drinking.
You lads are obsessed with sligo, what is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
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as I don't have the right to start a new topic myself I'll tag this on here. how many can we expect at the final. in landsdowne you have 20 000 on the top and bottom tiers and then 10 000 in the middle tier. Recently the finals have been between 8 000 and 25 000. the bray sint francis was the first in landsdowne and it bought out 30 000....my mad prediction is 25 000 with the top tier closed off and some talented camera work to show a ''full'' stadium........ another option is of course that they close off the side opposite the cameras which will give another negative image of teh league.......what about a really cheap pricing policy of 1 euro a ticket to sell it out and celebrate the first final
Its the FAI so tickets will be €50 and the only place open will be the top tier on the side of the camerasQuote:
Originally Posted by frenchman
According to my next door neighbour, who said he phoned the FAI and asked, tickets for the final will be €10 adult €5 concession. FAI obviously hoping the low price will attract a few more neutrals.
On the incidents after the game, I really hate to see stuff like that, as a resident of Tallaght and a season ticket holder this year it's this kind of incident that really puts me off Rovers. They have plenty of great supporters but there's an element of scum that bring the whole crowd down, I do feel like there's also some reluctance to get rid of them as some of them are seen as a part of the "hardcore" club support who were there through the bad times. If the club really wants to be a community club and to continue to attract the young families of Tallaght they are going to have to be ruthless with banning orders and removing the trouble makers from the following.