Still a good achievement for the clubs who have yet to be relegated:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
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Still a good achievement for the clubs who have yet to be relegated:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Fingal have never been relegated either :)
It only counts if you been around for more than 5 minutes;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
A game is 90 minutes so we qualify :)
Point taken and I welcome your pedantic reply, however if you are trying to claim the league is not a closed one, then maybe a better term can be coined for the half-way house we have in Ireland which only serves to keep status quo and be unproductive in terms of investment, sponsorship and development. Legendz, it's not a reflection on the ambition or lack thereof a club possesses that they don't apply for an A licence. There are far more worthy clubs in the country than those in the A Championship, or even in the 1st Division, especially in terms of crowds and how they're run, however it makes no sense in such a poorly structured system to bother with the A championship - if they withdrew (as the case is for one senior club I know) from the LSL and play the reserve teams of EL premier teams, it's not going to do anything for them. As The Lep mentioned, a pyramid could work easily, sure it would take aligning the seasons, though this would also be possible. However what is the way to go - go back to a winter season or everyone goes to a summer season.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
He wasn't pedantic, Spud, he was right. If you want to complain about the lack of a football pyramid in Ireland, do so, but don't use the wrong word for it and then bitch when people don't understand you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
John83 rides to the rescue again!
When I lived in Ireland, the lads I used to meet at every away match included a couple of die-hard Rovers fans from Swinford. There was also a gang from Leitrim (Manorhamilton) as well as lads from Roscommon (Boyle and Castlerea - among the latter being one Luke Flanagan, now better known as Ming).Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
you kept some strange company... i mean leitrim come on now
My bad and in fairness, its a shame ye don't have more fans because ye play good football and good luck to ye. I just hope we make europe
[QUOTE=The Lep;1412711]Eh no, I am just of the opinion that two clubs who have performed admirably throughout the season, without the aid of a sugar daddy, relying on the revenue generated from a strong fan base, are more deserving of European football than your good selves. Its not personal or bitter, its just my opinion. For what its worth, I think its a shame ye don't have more fans because ye play good footballQuote:
Originally Posted by bingoballs
For me its not about the money and who does and doesnt deserve a Euro spot, its about the players on the pitch and the fans in the stand (no matter how many). You get what you deserve in a league format and all the fingal fans who have supported the club all season deserve european football if the club achieve it. Not because of money but because thats where the team finished and as fans we would deserve it too just like any other fans.
By your logic then Bray should get european football too. Because if you are talking about performing admirably then these guys would possible deserve it more than Pats or Sligo. But we all know thats not how it works.
I stand corrected on the use of the wrong word, I should have said "allegedly" open league, which would get me around all areas. The lack of a pyramid in Ireland makes the game unattractive for all sorts of reasons, though maybe it's just hard experience of trying to amke sense of the situation that makes me see it this way. I guess if people wanted it to change, there would be a grass roots upheaval, however it seems (as stated in the Indo so it must be true) the FAI boss has the support and tender love of the grassroots so all is well in the state of Denmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
I haven't commented in this thread in a long while since County-gate.
The thread has kind off gone off topic again as to who deserves to be where in the LOI. That is a irrelevant.
We all wanna see well-supported teams in a well-supported viable league. We don't want boom-to-bust teams. I am aware of the irony of saying that as a Shels fan. :)
There was an initial concern as to the fact that Gannon is being sucked into NAMA. That is a fact, now the other issues that have yet to be resolved are the finances for 2011 finalised or near to being finalised?
Having been involved in the draft budget process for DLR in the last 2 months I can tell ye Fingal CoCo are gonna be absolutely smashed in 2011 and I think we can say goodbye to serious involvement from them in that case. This is heresay but I cannot imagine that they're gonna get a windfall from the Local Government fund... though maybe the residents of Whitestown and Fortlawn might pay their rent arrears? :O That could do it!
Surely as this is Ireland and as nothing at all is a secret here... something must have leaked?
I'd be wanting to point out that fact on a large banner - mainly to be displayed at all games any club which qualifies takes part in up and down the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
I couldn't agree more. There are teams in this league who have little or no support and simply aren't viable. Sporting Fingal are one of the most obvious examples. If and when the sugar daddy funding is removed they will quite quickly cease to exist. They will go the way of umpteen teams before them and doubtless plenty more will fail to learn the lessons and go the same way in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
An interesting profile of the owner of St. Patrick's Athletic whose property company has loans in default to taxpayer owned Anglo Irish Bank.
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/...y-2382056.html
Over to you Dodge, but I Think Pats are self sufficent and not depending on funds from kelleher.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
but there are well supported teams who are not viable while there are teams who are not well suported who are viableQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Chief
Fingal fall into neither category.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Why are you posting on a football forum that the residents of Whitestown and Fortlawn have rent arrears?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Dear lord Jesus. Are you for real? The realities of life really sometimes come out of the blue for you.
I'll go briefly off topic for your benefit. As the Fingal CoCo are landlords of a lot of properties there you can be almost guaranteed that there is a chance that some of them owe rent. That Is a fact of life. I could say the same for tenants in Ballyfermot, Ballymun or Neilstown... but as these are in different council areas it wouldn't directly translate as revenue for Fingal Coco. I don't work for Fingal coco so making an observation such as the one I did is one made based on probability and founded in a reality of Ireland 2010.
Now answer my question, has yer budget been finalised for 2011 or are ye still drafting?
Nah it'd be offensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
You made out that residents in those estates have rent arrears when they might not have . Even if they do then it has nothing to do with the thread seeing that Sporting Fingal isnt funded by the money collected from rent.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
That is not how local government works. Money from different sources is not ring-fenced, it is part of general revenue and is used for a vast array of spending.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
If Sporting Fingal is subsidised by Fingal Council, defaulting local authority rents could make the continuation of that subsidy more difficult.
Its a miss conception. They help but not in terms of financing the club directly.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Really - not a penny, didnt realise. So are your eggs even more in one basket than I had thought ?
We have fruit not eggs and its nice fruit at that :)
Really.
The council helped in the setting up of the club and where the ones who did a lot of research into how a club like ours could be run. They helped get the various sponsors in to help run the club and will in time be responsible hopefully for building a small sports complex and stadium that will see Fingal have a proper football ground.
As for the eggs thingy, I dont know tbh. Time will tell I guess.
The Man from Delmonte is f**ked tho. :)
He could be at this stage but i was never a lover of delmonte anyway :)
she sounds kinky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
So again... my question, I'll phrase it carefully...
Is there any knowledge amongst the Fingal fans about the finances for 2011 or shall we continue to operate on hearsay?
There will be NO MONEY for building new Stadia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
Have ye heard the news this evening ....€8 or 9 BILLION to be saved in the Public Finances.
Yes, there is knowledge amongst the fingal fans and yes you can continue to go with hearsay as usual :)
And why should we change the habit of a lifetime?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Now stage two of removing the blood from the stone...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
Would some of the aforementioned Fingal fans care to divulge any of the said relative information to the rest of us without resorting to the defensive?
If not for my sanity then would some of ye please think of the children?
Just cos... nothing more nothing less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Bonnie, take a chill pill. We know a certain amount but if you are asking fans do they know what the finances of the club are for next year then you are asking the ridiculous. Of course we dont know for sure who does.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Oh and by the way there is no defensive here. We are just tired of the same old same old and you will have to forgive a fan for not wanting to go through the same crap week in week out and If anybody is being defensive its you. make a point if you have one and then we will answer, otherwise take it elsewhere.
I think you can understand why we dont feel the need to defend our club every minute of every day. Its been done to death by me and others. Until something of any particular worth comes out, I wont respond fully to it. Im just tired of it all. I just want to be a football fan and the enjoy the game.
She's always knocked up though.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
With regard to Fingal, while Gannon's loans have come under NAMA, it is highly probable that he still has access to considerable personal wealth (albeit in his wife's name). As Fingal is as much a vanity project as Chelsea is for Abramovich, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he was able to bankroll the club for some time yet.