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Well if you can't bloody well read nor remember the infamous row between Matthews and McGuinness last year over the line week, then its going to be hard to explain it to you, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
Original point is that if Cork's issue is the same as Dundalk's its a non issue. If you want to make 2+2=5 then fire away.
Thought we'd be very qualified to comment!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
You can comment on whatever you like! As i can roll my eyes at a comment as i like, particularly when it is inaccurate and as you are not comparing like with like.
This forum revolves around the old adage of 'stones in glasshouses'!
(our schooligans are less worse than your schooligans by the way;))
I took your original post as a sideswipe at unpaid wages in Oriel last season, which didnt occur, being blamed on 'clerical error' rather than it being if it is the same as what happened at Dundalk last season then Cork are fine.
Funnily enough it wasn't a swipe at Dundalk (we are no longer in that position) and it was supporting Cork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Now I need to lie down :D
Ah! Your reputation preceded you. Well i agree legitimate problems can occur with any payroll system. As a result of last season people will assume the worst and that Cork(and maybe others in due course) are delaying until a home game provides some cash etc, i hope this isnt the case!Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Ye can swipe away at Dundalk it just wont erm...hurt any more - Drog insult proof(for now):p
players have been paid
All of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
to the best of my knowledge they have all recieved their wages for this month, if they havent i expect it will be in their bank accounts in the next day or soQuote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
depending on what bank they are with
Fantastic, great achievement. Totally vindicates the decision to give Cork City a premier division licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Seriously? Its a great achievement to pay players who you signed last week?Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyjoe
I think he may have been using sarcasm. I'm not certain though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I really should turn on avatars to see who people support
Aplogies stickyjoe!
Cork City players. Can't comment on your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
stickyjoe actually doesn't have an avatar at the moment, so you're excused on that account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Didn't ask you tooQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
You're a Pats fan. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
:eek:Tut Tut!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Another twist according to today's star, apparently we have given two players paycuts they hadn't agreed to, it's well past ridiculous at this stage.
It seems to me that the FAI will only act once the season is actually underway. Mr Coughlan will run City into the ground if this caper continues. If I were a Cork City fan I'd be very worried at the minute. I'd give it one month before I'd reckon there will be a major dispute at the club.
See this link:
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/loi/news.asp?n=36015
pay cuts? Were they just not left short?
Call it what you like being left short, or a paycut. It still amounts to them not being paid in full which breaks regulations. If I were one of the players in question I'd now demand a pay rise as they have Cork over a barrel.
What will actually happen to Cork? A ten point deduction (at most) and a slap on the wrists?
I'd be surprised if they even got a slap on the wrists.
If nothing else, CCFC/Coughlan are giving Alan Matthews plenty of evidence of their poor regard for their paid employees for use in future court action.
In the immeadiate short term there is very little City fans can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
Cork should be automatically relegated today and allow Shels take their place in the Premier....end of.
That's not fair, Cobh Ramblers should be given Cork City's place.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Why on earth would Shels take our place :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Because unlike Cork they have learned from their mistakes and have a very sustainable wage bill and if ever a reason was needed....Doolin is a tosser spending silly money of other peoples like he did at Drogs and look where they ended up....... and just like Catchphrase years ago on the tele Keely says what he sees!!
Um.. the small issue of having sold out your future to pay wages still haunt Shels though- where are they going to be based in the future? Is there any credible plan? How long can they stay in Tolka?
Wind up? Or are you a shels fan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Id imagine the obvious team to come up would be Harps.
Trying to blame Doolin is pathetic. He'l spend as much as he's given, it's not his job to look after the finances.
Shels fans are like a reformed smoker. Getting boring now.
Cork were given a premier licence on the basis that certain financial conditions would be met before the start of the season. Were they given a date to meet these conditions by and what exactly were these conditions? It seems to me like the licencing committee were never seriously going to withdraw the licence if these conditions weren't met..
How can Harps be even considered as they have slashed the wage bill to almost nothing and have all kids in their squad....not that its the kids fault or indeed Paul Hegarty but they are no Shels who would be ideal ahead of minnows like Harps/UCD or Cobh for that matter....lets be realistic here boys.....and as for Doolin, time will tell......he will bleed ye dry down there!
Do you even understand how licencing works and how teams are ranked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
According to some FAI quotes last week, the deadline was Friday, and we met the conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Paying players mustnt have been one of them.....
You must be a shels fan alright....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
They shouldnt be considered because they cut their budget to make it sustainable....right
And shels should because their team is good?Something we are all thankful for every day....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Why start now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Yep...he's making up his own budget as we speak....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Does anyone expect that the FAI will make an official comment on this matter?
There are bound to be spokesmen about for the league's launch tomorrow so I hope some news hounds ask them about this.
Maybe I'm wrong, but the way I see it is that CCFC have papered over the financial cracks in order to get their licence for the 2009 season and now that they've gotten in there's really nothing the FAI can do about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
hOLIDAY sONG...."Do you even know how the licensing works?"...
Does anybody seen as both Shels and Drogs not to mention Bohs got licenses yet they are not sure if they will see the season through!!!
I think there are some fairly tough measures for any club that has any sort of problems with wages this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Can't or won't?Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
I dunno. I do think without a doubt that relegation would be the end of us but at the same time I dont see how we could have any argument with whats being going on.
Why would it though? Lots of clubs have been relegated and survived. With a fan base the size of yours you should be able to cope more than most.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
The FAI said there would be but as far as I know they didn't actually give any details. Are we looking at things like 40 point deductions (i.e. the difference between Europe and relegation)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge