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The overspending does not affect credibility. Valencia are 600million in debt. English clubs in debt up ot their eyes. Are the premiership and la liga suffering?Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
****e crowds, rubbish stadiums and petty squables over EVERYTHING damage our credibility. Apart from the talking shop of internet forums and a few overly cynical journos, the majority of LOI fans, and potential LOI fans don't look at balance sheets.
If it were guaranteed that every club could avail of that solution then I don't think they'd be too worried. I'd imagine the fear is that if and when they're in trouble the FAI won't be as helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
why would they want it back , if they have unfetered access and would that mean the fai are responsible for licence compliance in the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If they want to sell it in the future to move to a new ground, they'd have to buy it back. Similar to the Drogheda situation.
dodge you cant seriously be saying that the by now daily reports of lubs in meltdown do to overspending is not undermining its credability
He's saying it's the constant negative media rather than the meltdown that's more the problem.
Meltdowns are in place across Europe (he named two high profile examples), but they get much less column inches, so people care less.
I absolutely do believe that. Go on and ask 50 people why they don't go to LOI games and see how many say overspending. I guarantee you far more will say "****e football", "****e crowds", "****e grounds"Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
DO sponsors care? Nope, all they want is exposure.
Do fans of current clubs really care? Apart froma small minority, no. Most Bohs fans knew they were in deep **** all season. Did they stop celebrating the double? Did they ****?!
Come the start of the next season, whatever clubs are around, will concentrate on the football. Sure some of us will care, but most just want to see their team win
Could some one who knows summerise the financial situations of each club. Saves people (like myself lol) having to read through 13 pages to find out.
Thanks
No. Read the pages you won't regret it. (Pats, Rovers, Monaghan, UCD, Derry and Sligo probably are ok, everyone else is either in trouble about to be in trouble or just about out of trouble).
I disagree dodge ,i sat in a pub in galway a week ago and heard some lads discussing the LOI and not once they mention football only the financial troubles that surrond clubs now while i take your point that it may not have a negative effect of supporters going to games it must make the clubs looks both stupid ans unsustainable
Do you think if we had 5,000 people going to every game in comfirt the same people would be talking about overspending?Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
fantastic synopsus except i believe that pats rover ucd derry and sligo are in troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
This article from a week or two back probably sums up the Premier for 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-1552788.html
Basically, only UCD and Shams have either had no money trouble or don't look like potentially having troubles.
drogs potential demise is bigger gossip than bohs titlesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Fairly good summary; didn't see that article.
Agree the best way to get an understanding of where the league is now is to look back over the whole thread though.
It all makes baby Jesus cry :(
How can you not be in your own boat? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
I think you could almost assume that most of them would run up the debts again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Thought this needed to be shared
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now before i post this granted there is a sizeable amount of ****e talk posted on this forum but this must be the most potrageous and handicapped post ever taken from the Rvs MB, Derry seem to have two teams in the league too
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WHo will be our main challengers for the league title next season?
Teams : Concern
SPA: Cutting their budget to under 2 million ( I think it will be well under that and Johnny Mc is staying on as coach it looks which is a massive neg vibe in my book as i think he is a thick.
LondonDerry City : Finacially in bits, seems to be all hush hush keep quiet nothing to see here move along "These are not the droids you're looking for" lines coming from them. Will have a lot of young fellas on the Books and Kenny is going to be under pressure from the off. Further cut backs come July maybe.
Gypos : Fcuked, next. These idiots may not even be in the league, they probably will but the gypo massives will not be celebrating a league title next season and will do well to finish in the top 4.
Cark Langers : Things are looking really bad for this crowd, something is not right down there. I really dislike Matthews but he seemed to get on with these roaring roasters ok. They may be on the brink of falling apart and could go either way, watching brief is advised. No Europe may help them if they can correct themselves.
Drogs : I am afraid bad days for the Drogs who are the only club to get their nickname from the bastion of class that is the Sun Newspaper. From making the back page headline of these rags after their champions league campaign to the Obituaries in only a few months, sad but only themselves to blame.
Culchie Rovers: Ah not a bad manager with this crowd but they will fall short, they will also go close to going bust like they do every year. Their chairman will blame winter football and they will sign some guy from a country like we have never heard of. This crowd could lso go either way but i can't see them having the legs of other teams and Europe and the Setanta will be a hinderence rather than a help with their squad size.
Galway, Bray, Dundalk : Can't see any of them doing anything but I can the relegation being fought out between Galway and Bray. Dundalk have got a chancer in blackie in by the sounds of things his budget won't be bad. I could see him finishing ahead of one or two teams. Galway will finish bottom although if Harps are in the divsion next year they will deffo be in the mix.
Prediction:
Shamrock Rovers
SPA
Derry
Sligo
Derry
Gypos
Cark
Dundalk
Bray
Galway
Drogs (if they are in, if not Galway bottom and Harps second bottom which is more than likely going to happen)
I can only see one winner raored on by 4 or 5 thousand each week in Tallaght.
Leave your predictions below and whoever at the end of the season is the closest we all buy a pint for them at teh end of the season.
In fairness the fella who posted that is a laughing stock on the Rovers forum, most of the rest of the thread is people ridiculing him.
I think he's leading the "Who should be banned?" poll.
There is an element of truth in some of it though.
There's a poll?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Somewhere. Great idea too. Once mods aren't allowed on. :p
There should be a seperate mods poll. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
And a yeah or nay poll for dahamsta. :)
if you take the Rovers fans as gospel. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
As for voting people off here. I'm 100% behind it. Mods should be allowed on it too
Great idea. We could vote all week and then have the loser/winner on camera as they discover they've got the boot on the Friday night. Then they could give an interview to some z list celeb interviewer where they claim that they don't care and were only taking the **** anyway and that they will not miss foot.ie at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Then there could be a monkey knife fight.
great idea can i propose we call it the x foot factor
That's good, maybe a supplementary thread called Big Footer Little Foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
(Can I eat any of the Kangaroo 'eggs' that are left? Or what ever they are.)
Drogheda United are happy to announce that the club has been granted a 30-day extension of their examinership from the High Court today.
This good news gives the club 30 days, from today, to continue its fundraising efforts, attract further investment and put in place a plan for the future of the club.
how about IM a footer get me out of here .. now thats just silly but ive just read the lillywhites post and am feeeling lightheadedQuote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
Am i the only one who had sucha laugh reading that post by the Shams fan?:D:D Hilarious stuff!:D
Although they are leading the "who can get a stadium built for them" league.
And the "who can build a stand that resembles something a 3 year old would make out of Lego" league.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieB
If it's true that Derry let McGinn go for €250k then this league is fecked!
BTW That would mean Derry are in the black by a good amount.....€170k PLUS FOR THE YEAR ENDING 2008.
Our board wouldn't be so stupid .....would they?
Found it quite surprising that Derry would let him go for that. Especially with Fahey going for more.
What percentage of the fee will Dungannon get?
10 % at least I would say.
You've got me there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhoopsB
20% afaikQuote:
Originally Posted by Dassa
£80k was your loss in 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
For 2008, you can treble it, even after the McCourt deal.
But if McGinn goes, it does seem you'll break even this year. Though you'll either have to cut back your budget by half a million or find two more players like that next season.
Care to point out my shameful joy anywhere??Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
In fairness you're far more likely to get joy out of Limerick going bust than you are out of Monaghan winning something anytime soon so by all means go for it.
If it makes you happy it can't be that bad.
Plus there's a good chance we'll just reform and call ourselves something else so how bad.
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I was at our AGM last week and you are very far out on your quote.
Add maybe an extra £7,000 to our 2007 loss and that would be almost perfect.
Just because you're now an accountant, it doesn't mean you know everything about every company. ;)
P.S. Don't always listen to 3rd hand knowledge.
Derry's accounts for year ending nov '08will be officially realeased to shareholders in march 2009.