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01/08/2008, 3:15 PM
Steve Bruce

Linfield played Elfsborg last season.

They are a decent outfit but definately beatable. Linfield SHOULD have went through the next round last season and we are only a part-time team out of season.

So really with St Pats being full-time, in season I wouldn't say they are certs, but certainly in a decent position to compete and get past this team.

It's not an easy tie, but definately winnable.

My prediction St Pats to lose by the odd goal.
01/08/2008, 3:17 PM
TheBoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Linfield played Elfsborg last season.

They are a decent outfit but definately beatable. Linfield SHOULD have went through the next round last season and we are only a part-time team out of season.

So really with St Pats being full-time, in season I wouldn't say they are certs, but certainly in a decent position to compete and get past this team.

It's not an easy tie, but definately winnable.

My prediction St Pats to lose by the odd goal.

Talk about raising your hopes and then knocking them down :D
01/08/2008, 3:19 PM
Steve Bruce

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBoss

Talk about raising your hopes and then knocking them down :D

:D

But in all seriousness, St Pats should go into this game thinking they can win this, because on their day they can win this tie.
02/08/2008, 11:02 AM
SUB of the day

All the best to Pats, good chance to progress.If the game is in the balance for the second leg, will the game be moved from( UEFA enforced )two sided Richmond Park? Tolka seems a good alternative.
02/08/2008, 11:11 AM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB of the day

All the best to Pats, good chance to progress.If the game is in the balance for the second leg, will the game be moved from( UEFA enforced )two sided Richmond Park? Tolka seems a good alternative.

Better 3,000 in Richmond than 3,000 in Tolka
02/08/2008, 1:08 PM
paudie

My tuppence worth on the City v Haka game.

Surely our worst European result ever. Was at the first leg and Haka were no great shakes and were all over the place at the end when we went at them.

not sure about blaming Matthews for going 4-5-1 but it looks like our usual "first 30 minutes are for passing the ball around and DEFINITELY not for scoring" attitude came unstuck big time. Don't know why we can't play with urgency from the first minute. BTW this was a problem last year under Rico as well.
02/08/2008, 1:09 PM
paudie

BTW the way well done to Pats. Couldn't do better than beat a team from one our close coefficient competitors home and away.

Not a bad draw in next round. Good luck.
02/08/2008, 1:23 PM
pete

Home game in second leg is definitely best. As mentioned above the first 30 minutes of first legs are usually cautious as teams check each out. Being away in first leg means you can play cautiously & maybe pick up an away goal. In fact it is exactly what Haka did to us.

Where will Pats play home game? Tolka? Would 5,000 turn up there?
02/08/2008, 5:48 PM
green army

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Linfield played Elfsborg last season.

They are a decent outfit but definately beatable. Linfield SHOULD have went through the next round last season and we are only a part-time team out of season.

So really with St Pats being full-time, in season I wouldn't say they are certs, but certainly in a decent position to compete and get past this team.

It's not an easy tie, but definately winnable.

My prediction St Pats to lose by the odd goal.

did you go over to the away leg. stay in gothenborg or boras?
02/08/2008, 8:44 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by pete

Where will Pats play home game? Tolka? Would 5,000 turn up there?

I doubt they would get all that much more than their last game. Even if there could sell more than the capacity of Richmond it would be better to keep home advantage and a packed Richmond rather than everyone scattered around Tolka.
04/08/2008, 3:19 PM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

I doubt they would get all that much more than their last game. Even if there could sell more than the capacity of Richmond it would be better to keep home advantage and a packed Richmond rather than everyone scattered around Tolka.

Agreed.

I don't see the crowds piling in to see Elfsborg, with all respect.
04/08/2008, 6:29 PM
TonyD

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Originally Posted by superfrank

Agreed.

I don't see the crowds piling in to see Elfsborg, with all respect.

Absolutely. And depending on the away result, which will hopefully keep the tie alive, a full house in Richmond would give Pats a better chance of progressing in my view.
04/08/2008, 7:16 PM
paul_oshea

Tony, that post completely contradicts the previous quoted post.
05/08/2008, 9:58 AM
bigmac

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Tony, that post completely contradicts the previous quoted post.

how? a full house at home is better than a full house or a nearly full house at some other stadium in the city.
05/08/2008, 10:25 AM
paul_oshea

ya i agree, but thats not how i read his post.

superfrank said they would do well to see the crowds piling in (anywhere)for Elfsborg. Tony says he agrees "absolutely" and then says " a full house in Richmond would give Pats a better chance of progressing in my view.
"
05/08/2008, 10:29 AM
Dodge

He obviously meant anything over what Richmond would heold is the crowds "piling in" seeing as he was agreeing with a post that Pats shouldn't need to move the game.
05/08/2008, 11:38 AM
bigmac

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

ya i agree, but thats not how i read his post.

superfrank said they would do well to see the crowds piling in (anywhere)for Elfsborg. Tony says he agrees "absolutely" and then says " a full house in Richmond would give Pats a better chance of progressing in my view.
"

Oh right - I read it as Inchicore would be fairly full if Pats were in with a shout but Elfsborg aren't the kind of team that would draw an awful lot of non regular fans and necessitate a move. Either way, everyone thinks that it should be played in Inchicore.
05/08/2008, 11:41 AM
DmanDmythDledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

ya i agree, but thats not how i read his post.

superfrank said they would do well to see the crowds piling in (anywhere)for Elfsborg. Tony says he agrees "absolutely" and then says " a full house in Richmond would give Pats a better chance of progressing in my view.
"

Read my post that superfrank quoted and you should get what he meant. Pats almost sold out for their last game against Olimps.
05/08/2008, 11:53 AM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfrank

Agreed.

I don't see the crowds piling in to see Elfsborg, with all respect.

Agree. Though Elfsborg will presumably bring some away fans (200, maybe?), but that'd only fill the gaps that were there for the Olimps game. No need to move it from Richmond for the sake of a couple of hundred extra tops.
05/08/2008, 1:53 PM
superfrank

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

ya i agree, but thats not how i read his post.

superfrank said they would do well to see the crowds piling in (anywhere)for Elfsborg. Tony says he agrees "absolutely" and then says " a full house in Richmond would give Pats a better chance of progressing in my view.
"

Pats had something like 2,500 for the game against JFK Olimps. Elfsborg are probably just as well known to the Irish footballing public.

Therefore, the crowd isn't going to be substantially bulked up by curious bystanders. That's why, imo, Pats should keep the game at Richmond and fill it, like they did for the JFK game, instead of going all out for the money a la Shels in Landsdowne.

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