A tall speedy young defender. Thuram was speedy and tall toó. We had José Chamot as well;
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A tall speedy young defender. Thuram was speedy and tall toó. We had José Chamot as well;
Burnley now reportedly willing to offer £12m for Collins. Tarkowski has his admirers elsewhere in the PL, and has only a year left on his contract. (Lancashire Live, 11 June). As I've noted previously, Sean Dyche doesn't think Jimmy Dunne is quite up to PL standard. So there could be some changes in the Clarets' back division for 2021/2.
Burnley is a real graveyard for Irish players despite there being plenty of them there.
Dyche does what he has to do to stay in the EPL every year, route 1 football with little imagination, fair dues I suppose but would prefer if Irish players stayed away from Turf Moor.
Pity some of these lads don't make the move overseas to the likes of the Bundesliga or Serie A.
I'd like to think Collins would be aiming higher, Burnley are a dead end outfit and he'll be conditioned to root it.
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Originally Posted by Strongbow10
Deal now done, according to the Burnley Express this a.m. - Collins to Burnley for £12m. I take Strongbow 10's point about the style - or lack of it- of football at Burnley, but perhaps Nathan will actually get more game time there than from the bench at a more fashionable club in the PL.
Very interesting. There are many positives to this move. Burnley have produced some good defenders recently. Dyche is clearly a good manager and capable of getting the best from his players. Another interesting point is the new ownership. Apparently the owners are interested in creating a squad of young and quality players. You'd have to imagine that Collins' family have received plenty information on the plans of the new owners to conclude that this was the best route for him, based on the fact that they identified Stoke as a great starting club for him (8 figure move after just over 4 years- not bad) and their intimate knowledge of the football business (his uncle being a full time agent). Given Collins present position (young centre half with all the attributes, plenty attention and enough of game time), you'd imagine that selling Burnley to the Collins family was a significant undertaking that really had to be planned and executed to perfection to secure the signing.
You've read a lot into someone willing to pay a big transfer fee for someone else.
A footballer is a commodity at the end of the day, bought and sold without much fuss.
Who was the last Irish player to attract an 8 figure transfer fee?
Hendrick?
Matt Doherty's transfer fee wasn't confirmed at the time, but some papers did report it as £15m
Both true. Still, they're thin on the ground, even though the Premiership clubs flash that kind of cash regularly these days.
Did you mean to post this in the Nathan Collins thread btw?
(I was wondering were Rovers offering €10m for Stokes, or were you being smart and counting pennies :) )
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Great move if he regularly starts next season. If not, he should have stayed at Stoke and have gotten one full season at centre back under his belt (most of his starts have been at right back). Tarkowski (West Ham move fell through) still there so competing with him and Mee.
Tarkowski is entering the final year of his contract and is widely expected to move on, however Burnley are thought to want to sign two centre-backs this summer and are being linked with a move for Nat Phillips too, so gaining a regular starting spot straight away isn't entirely assured for Collins, even given the money reportedly spent on him. Burnley signed Ben Gibson for £15m and he never made the breakthrough.
As well as that, Dyche often likes new signings - particularly defenders - to do their apprenticeship first, learning his methods, before throwing them in.
Hopefully Nathan has been giving some firm assurances on first team football. The other thing that I was thinking about is while Nathan mostly played right back, when he started centre back it was in a back 3 which stoke play. Every time I’ve watched Burnley it’s a flat back 4. Here’s hoping augurs well, but staying at stoke for a full season at centre back would not have done him any harm at all.
If Collins is any use he won't be stuck behind Nat Phillips for long. I don't rate him much.
Burnley will sell Tarkowski unless they're mad - 20m plus for a player who will go for free next year is a no-brainer for a club of their size. I wonder if Burnley might go for Duffy as well.
Unless he signs a new contract of course!
Collins move confirmed anyways, potentially a club record for Burnley if add ons met apparently https://twitter.com/burnleyofficial/...548953604?s=21