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I saw Drogheda play Dundalk the other week because I was in that neck of the woods. A good committed side and they'd beat us with our back four. Cobh will beat us down there at least, and take points off us at home with our back four. Shels got hockeyed lately but they'll be up there, UCD too. IF we don't sign at least one more defender, we won't win any league.
Based off seeing one team in one game? Ok then. How many of our games have you seen in pre season? I agree we could do with a defender and have no doubt we will sign one but some of the talk is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
You asked the question ********, let me know what answer you'd have preferred and I'll just say that. What's ridiculous is thinking were gona win the league with our back four. I saw us v Dundalk and Cork and we couldn't defend against small fat Sean MaGuire.
Our two full backs are absolutely fine (assuming Shaun Kelly is alive). Robbie in centre half has more than enough for the First Division but will go on holiday for four or five weeks at some stage during the season.
Centre half (probably two) definitely needed but I think we're still favourites for the division. Because we are measurably better than everyone else.
You still have to keep going back to looking at what we are up against not the premier teams we have played in friendlies making subs and bringing in 19's. We should be going in confident of winning every week. If the team was to go out fearing any of the teams in the first division then we don't deserve to win it. You need to have a winning and professional mentality.
One or two centre backs and we have by a mile the strongest team in the division.
There isn't a player in the first division as good as the small fat Sean Maguire.
Agree with Jofspring and everybody else really one or two good centre half's and we will walk this division imo strengthening our back line is vital.
Look at our midfield it's top 5 premier division imo duggan, lee j, greene, paul o connor etc.
Surely Russell is looking at centre half position if not you'd have to question him
I'd nearly bet my house that Russell is looking at centre halves. We have had Finnegan on trial already. There was rumours about 3 or 4 weeks ago about McGuinness from St.Pats if Pats will let him go. Oji is still un-signed also.
Settle yourself down if you don't like someone having a differing opinion to yours you may find a forum isn't the place for you. So you saw us keep Dundalk at 0-0 til after half time even missing Shaun Kelly then. Most of the goals we have conceded have come when our team has been weakened by subs or in Bray from a shockingly bad pitch and a free kick not any fault of the back 4s while it isn't great and I know we need another CB at least 1 I would be very confident if we started the season with out current strongest back 4 we would win the league. Thats just my opinion no need to be upset about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
He is 100% lookig for centre backs has had talks with Oji and has had 2 centre backs in on trial in recent weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas72
I'd bet there isn't a club in the first division that wouldn't swap us squads too and even some in prem for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by LK37oldskool
For a fella who understands what a forum is about you get quite upset when someone has a different view to you BWA, I saw us lose two games because we couldn't defend. Our back four is not good enough for us to win the league. Every answer so far to that has been 'he's 100% looking/talking/facebooking a centrehalf'. How much of the budget just went on Aaron Greene? Will the €9.50 a week we have left be enough to tempt O.G. Oji? I still probably won't miss a home game but Russell's a spoofer and I think we'll win nothing with this squad.
Well every answer so far has been that people agree we need another centre half at least but it certainly isn't the doom and gloom you are making it out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
Do you not think we have the strongest squad in the league?
Name one club in the division that has more than 4 players that could make our starting 11?
Hall - Up there as one of the best keepers in first division if not best
Kelly - probably the best right full in the first division. Certainly in the top 2 or 3.
Paudie - young but has shown he has some class, has done well against much better teams.
Robbie - has played over 250 games in English league football and also played 3 years premier here, well capable.
Shane T - one of the best left backs, seems to be getting a little bit of pace back also and looks dangerous on the attack
Duggie - best midfielder in the division
O'Connor - one of the best midfielders in the division, has shown he can fill in RB and CB.
Lynch - one of the best and most gifted players technically in the division
Mullhall - experienced winger, playing league of Ireland years, has been solid anywhere he has played
Greene - could easily be playing premier, very talented. Can play LB, LW and attacking midfield.
O'Flynn - according to Cork fans and players that have played in the league with him he is the most technically gifted striker they have ever seen. With service should be lethal.
Garbhan Coughlan - has scored 30 goals in the last few months in junior, has won the first division twice and seems to be maturing as a player.
Tommy Holland - looks like our future number 1 and has been solid anytime he was called upon.
MCCartan - Young but a tough nut, one for the future
Killian Brouder - similar to above, one for the future
Tony Whitehead - around a while be still young, well capable of doing a job in the first division.
Jordan Moore - just signed tonight, young striker that has played in Scotland, don't know much about him but seems all that hindered his progression previously was a life threatening illness.
Keith Mawdsley - primarily an under 19 for the moment but has been banging in goals in the Limerick premier, started for Ireland tonight in a friendly.
You also have Shane Costello, Colm Murphy there not to mention some more under 19 players that look decent.
The club also talking to more players. What else is wanted than that?
Last 3 pre season games.
Us Goals Scored: 2 Goals Against 9 Goal Difference -7
Drogheda Goals Scored:0 Goals Against: 7 Goal Difference: -7
Jesus lads, will we win it so ya?
Here's another one, I don't think I've seen Duggan/Lynch/O'Connor dominate a game from start to finish. I'd question them a bit too for the money that's being spent.
Jaysus I never realised how high the standard is in the first division. I don't think we'll get promoted now. It's looking like we may even have to reapply for FD status already for next season according to some.
How much is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
Heard there is a hope Shaun Kelly could be in the squad tonight and John O'Flynn could be back for the Galway friendly.
€9millionQuote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Look man, after opening with this what do you expect ? A smooth ride in the debate is it ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
Despite going on to make a reasoned point, and Id agree, we need ideally, a little experience at the back but wouldn't go as far as to say the season hangs on it either, you blew your credibility with the Div 1A remark. No need for it.
I thought the €9 million was the big one to destroy my 'credibility' on an anonymous football forum, I was only half joking about the 1A thing. Still won't win the league.