A question of Religion

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Originally Posted by Éanna

He is sheer and utter evil. I make no apologies for saying it. How many millions of lives could have been saved from AIDS but, no that isn't a christian thing to do at all :rolleyes:

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Evil?
Ahh Bless....(oops) :D

Stop, throw aside your bias and think rationally for a minute. The current pope preaches that contraception is a sin. So you reckon that he said it was ok to use condoms they people wouldnt be dying from aids because they'd use them straigh away seeing as it was ok?:rolleyes:

Lets accept your line of arguement so for a minute anyway. Now Éanna what do you use condoms for? Now hold that idea just a second.....now...what is the Churches position on sex?

Now JP also preaches that sex outside of marriage is a sin. So they dont obey him for the sex part but follow him to the letter for contrception?

Condoms 99% effective
Abstanence 100% effective

So JP is evil eh?

Evil is invading a country for no (honest) reason
Evil is blowing up a bomb on a train full of innocent people
Evil is flying planes into a building full of innocent people

You have serious RC issues. Any you call yourself a Celtic fan:D:D

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Originally Posted by SÓC

Evil is invading a country for no (honest) reason
Evil is blowing up a bomb on a train full of innocent people
Evil is flying planes into a building full of innocent people

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yeah. I agree. So is what JP is doing. Not to mention his hate campaign against homosexuals.

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Originally Posted by SÓC

You have serious RC issues.

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I've already admitted as much- I can't stand the organisation.

I think JP is evil too I guess.

One of his recent elevations to become a saint had me laughing.

Cant remember what the guys name was (a count from austria, one of the royal family) who gassed 10,000 italians. He made this guy a saint!

He also made a saint a nun who was cured of varigous (sp?) veins. Funnily enough the nun was in hospital at the time being treated for the problem. No coincidence i guess.

satan rocks come with me to the church of satan and make a sacrifice(goats chickens small cows and ponys only) :D

Here's a type of Christianity you probably don't have much of back in the Auld Sod.

It doesn't get any more looney than this.

Caution may not be work safe.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

yeah. I agree. So is what JP is doing. Not to mention his hate campaign against homosexuals.

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Please explain how he is evil or is this still based on your whole condom thing?

Thinking homosexuality is a sin means he's evil?

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Originally Posted by SÓC

Please explain how he is evil or is this still based on your whole condom thing?

Thinking homosexuality is a sin means he's evil?

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I wouldn't say he's evil myself but I would say that a lot of his teachings are idiotic and seriously out of date.

I actually think he's dead and that they take his body out of ice for a few public showings a year. He's operated by a few strings by a select group of priests. Just like that movie Weekend at Bernies.

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Originally Posted by NJTom

It doesn't get any more looney than this...

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Bar the ********** website, it is about as looney as it gets. I think this is a perfect example of tw*ts using religion as a vehicle justifying their pet hates.

BTW: What are the bible quotes on 'sodomy'? Something in Leviticus (OldT) - lying down with a man as with a woman (does that mean with a bloke with curlers in?). Then someone at work told me it was in Acts (NewT), and that the same text mentions that it's a sin for a woman to wear/not to wear a hat in church. As for Sodom, sounds to me a bit like a few Ireland trips I've been on - the ones before we got this new generation of college educated Celtic-tiger clones anyway. :D ;)

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Originally Posted by lopez

Bar the ********** website, it is about as looney as it gets. I think this is a perfect example of tw*ts using religion as a vehicle justifying their pet hates.

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I checked out the ********** website, it's comforting to know they only have 188 members. Maybe there is hope for the human race after all.

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Originally Posted by NJTom

I checked out the ********** website, it's comforting to know they only have 188 members. Maybe there is hope for the human race after all.

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Sadly, quite a number of them are from Ireland and are not supporters of a Glaswegian team that play in blue. :(

If, like me, you take enjoy seeing hypocrites, idiots and bigots mocked, then can I reccomend the quite brilliant www.ship-of-fools.com
It's run by a very well adjusted CofE vicar, and is superb. From the surreal "Gadgets for God" section to the often terrifying "Fruitcake Zone", the worst excesses of the contemporary church are laid bare for all.

For example, did you know there's a American sect who gatecrash gay peoples funerals, and give the next of kin tape recordings of the deceased screaming in the fires of hell? Or what about the "liberated church", who get nekkid and wifeswap in the name of Jesus?

The Mystery Worshipper section is worth a look too.

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Originally Posted by green goblin

If, like me, you take enjoy seeing hypocrites, idiots and bigots mocked, then can I reccomend the quite brilliant www.ship-of-fools.com.

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It's no wonder the Church of Satan are doing a brisk trade at the moment. :o

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Originally Posted by Éanna

who's shoving it in my face? Just look at the education system in this country- full of it. the angelus on tv at 6 o'clock etc., It really bugs me. I totally respect people's right to their beliefs, and I have no problem with people believing in a higher being, but I just don't think it should be done in public. And religion is a factor in almost every conflict on the planet- even if it is only being used as an excuse.

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You would make a great contribution to Cuba or the IRSP ;)

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Originally Posted by dortie

You would make a great contribution to Cuba or the IRSP ;)

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sure would. but only as leader. I like telling others what to do ;)

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Originally Posted by Éanna

sure would. but only as leader. I like telling others what to do ;)

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Mmmm Dont you read history, never be a leader of the IRSP, you end up dead, more than likely by one of your own at that :D

Thank God I was never an Erp ;)

Anyone go to the Islamic Cultural Exhibition in ucc?
Very good.
Learned a few interesting things.
Jesus Christ is actually one of the main figures in Islam,
immaculate conception is recognised etc.

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Originally Posted by Risteard

Anyone go to the Islamic Cultural Exhibition in ucc?
Very good.
Learned a few interesting things.
Jesus Christ is actually one of the main figures in Islam,
immaculate conception is regognised etc.

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Obviously not on par with Mohamed (pardon the spelling) but regarded as a prophet. Hence - I think - why there were Muslims at the Beeb on Saturday complaining about Jerry Springer The Opera.

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Originally Posted by Risteard

Jesus Christ is actually one of the main figures in Islam,
immaculate conception is recognised etc.

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yeah, I'd love to see Bush asked about that- seeing as those "folks" apparently hate freedom and christianity etc :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by lopez

Obviously not on par with Mohamed (pardon the spelling) but regarded as a prophet. Hence - I think - why there were Muslims at the Beeb on Saturday complaining about Jerry Springer The Opera.

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Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have lots in common, in terms of their theological roots. The Christian Old testament is esentially the same for Jews, and although the Koran is far more Eastern in structure (Books are arranged in order of page count, rather than begining-middle-end!) they have many of the same stories from the O.T..
Islam came along hundreds of years after Jesus, and does indeed think of him as a minor prophet. Not THE Prophet, who they take as being Mohamed.

As for the Jerry Springer thing... Well, not all Christians take themselves entirely seriously (As I hope the ship-of-fools link, above, shows!). It's really only the barmy minority who ever make the headlines. For example, many of the singers from the 'blasphemous' opera will be singing in Chelsmford Cathedral on Saturday Night, with the Bishop of Essex, to raise money for victims of the Tsunami and Christian Aid. Probably won't make the news, though.

General Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army said you couldn't talk to a man's soul when his stomach was growling, and he's right. Whilst I personally find blasphemy upsetting, I think it matters more that we feed the hungry first and foremost. I once heard a speaker from a a pulpit say
"f*ck, sh*t, c*nt, w*nk. There are Xmillion children currently starving because of unpayable debt, and yet every single person here is more outraged that a curate just said 4 rude words in a church. You all need to sort out your priorities".

For the first three or four hundred years christians used to pray like muslims do at the mosque now.