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17/05/2016, 7:43 PM
tricky_colour

Would be easier to admit I am right, Players like Roy Keane and Seamus Coleman prove that.

And what about Shane Long who had only played one game of football in the LOI before
Reading signed him.

I am afraid if some of you lot were Premiership managers there would be quite a few bankrupt
clubs around full of over priced fancy dans.

Opportunities such as these are rare.

Indeed I would not be at all surprised if Leicester City signed him, I will certainly have the last laugh if/when that happens!!
17/05/2016, 7:59 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Would be easier to admit I am right, Players like Roy Keane and Seamus Coleman prove that.

Prove what? Neither played non league football, and both were far younger than Amond when they signed for a Premier League club

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

And what about Shane Long who had only played one game of football in the LOI before Reading signed him.

Reading were in the Championship at the time - and he was far younger than Amond. Not sure what your point is

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

I am afraid if some of you lot were Premiership managers there would be quite a few bankrupt clubs around full of over priced fancy dans.

Good thing there's no "overpriced fancy dans" at any Premier League club right now!

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Opportunities such as these are rare.

Indeed I would not be at all surprised if Leicester City signed him, I will certainly have the last laugh if/when that happens!!

I'd be surprised if Amond starts the 2016/17 season at a club playing in the Championship, or higher
17/05/2016, 8:15 PM
Ol� Ol�

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI_kKZ_RQ_o

1.48!!

21 Goals of Amond, he has another 11 since then, why has no big club not gone after him?

They would be nuts not too. ;)

Seriously he is the next Jamie Vardy, were I a Premiership manager I would
snap him up, got to be worth the gamble I mean they will be paying peanuts for
him, if he had a season like Vardy how much would he be worth?

I think the vast, vast majority of those goals are one touch finishes. He still got 32 of them in the league but I'm not sure whether a poacher can move up the ladders against tougher defences as easily for a poacher? Lambert and Holt were big and physical and had good inter and hold-up play. Vardy is an incessant runner. Maybe I'm gleaning the wrong thing from those goals...
17/05/2016, 9:07 PM
osarusan

The spirit of Crosby lives on on Tricky.
17/05/2016, 9:12 PM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

I think the vast, vast majority of those goals are one touch finishes. He still got 32 of them in the league but I'm not sure whether a poacher can move up the ladders against tougher defences as easily for a poacher? Lambert and Holt were big and physical and had good inter and hold-up play. Vardy is an incessant runner. Maybe I'm gleaning the wrong thing from those goals...

Look at 1.48, that is an incredible goal frm an impossible angle, the fact he though he could score from there says something in itself.

Have look at the goals and remind yourself how effective our top strikers are in from of goal.

I will put it this way, it would not have been 21 goals it would probably have been about 7!!!!
19/05/2016, 3:24 AM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Prove what? Neither played non league football, and both were far younger than Amond when they signed for a Premier League club

Well actually Almond was about the same age when he sign for a top flight Portusese club, you know this I believe, so it is not like he is some non-league donkey,
he clearly had/has talent, and I can see that in his goals video. There was another lad who got a lot of goal a while back but seemed to go off the radar, I saw
his goals and they looked pretty ordinary stuff.
I am really quite surprised there is not more interest in him, he is worth the gamble as you could presumably get him for peanuts, or perhaps the
price if a small bag of Almonds ;)
19/05/2016, 4:11 AM
SkStu

Given that you think he should be snapped up by a Premiership club, you must think he should be seriously considered as a call up to the Irish squad for the Euros?
19/05/2016, 4:31 AM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Given that you think he should be snapped up by a Premiership club, you must think he should be seriously considered as a call up to the Irish squad for the Euros?

Well it is a possibility I suppose, but it is rather late in the day, no time to get a look at him in a non-competitive game.
19/05/2016, 9:08 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Well actually Almond was about the same age when he sign for a top flight Portusese club, you know this I believe, so it is not like he is some non-league donkey,

How many goals did he score in the Portuguese league again?

The bottom half of which is lower-level English league standard anyway.
19/05/2016, 9:13 AM
tetsujin1979

Won non league player of the year: http://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news...d-3118602.aspx
Call him up Trap!
19/05/2016, 9:36 AM
Ol� Ol�

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Look at 1.48, that is an incredible goal frm an impossible angle, the fact he though he could score from there says something in itself.

Have look at the goals and remind yourself how effective our top strikers are in from of goal.

I will put it this way, it would not have been 21 goals it would probably have been about 7!!!!

You're completely ignoring the crux of my point. I'm not arguing whether the finishes are good or clinical or whether he was effective in front of goal converting them. I'm saying he won't be afforded the space he got at a higher level and when the time comes to take a second touch to create his own space, I don't know how effective he'll be.

What makes you think Long or Keane would have got 7? Long has banged in more than 7 at PL level this season and is a much more rounded striker. Keane has been scoring those kind of goals at a higher level for close to 20 years. In fairness now...

I haven't seen much of Amond. One thing I'll say is he played a lot on the wing, apparently, when he was in League Two. Maybe teams will place more confidence in him as a front man with this record now and maybe he'll cope with better defenders with ease...
19/05/2016, 9:49 AM
DeLorean

This discussion is surreal.
19/05/2016, 10:18 AM
Ol� Ol�

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

This discussion is surreal.

Blame Jamie Vardy for it all. Well, until he's back in the Championship for the 17/18 season.
19/05/2016, 10:21 AM
seanfhear

Does Dumbphy know how many goals he has scored and how well he has been playing for Barcelona !
19/05/2016, 11:01 AM
TheOneWhoKnocks

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

How many goals did he score in the Portuguese league again?

The bottom half of which is lower-level English league standard anyway.

In fairness, he didn't start a single game and came on in the last fifteen minutes in the vast majority of them.
19/05/2016, 11:34 AM
pineapple stu

Which tells its own story.
19/05/2016, 3:09 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Well it is a possibility I suppose, but it is rather late in the day, no time to get a look at him in a non-competitive game.

But Tricky, if you're good enough, you're good enough, right? That's the crux of your argument. And according to you he is Just. That. Good.
19/05/2016, 5:20 PM
CraftyToePoke

As surreal as this is, I am drawn to it. So when David Mooney hit 20 for Leyton Orient in 13/14, Paul Heffernan hit 20 for Notts County on 03/04, Barry Corr hit 20 for Southend in 10/11, also Michael Reddy has a form season in the lower leagues, did it mean they were denied greatness in the bigger leagues ? Probably not. Lets face it, this could well be Amonds moment in the sun.

Even the blind squirrel must find a nut sometimes.
19/05/2016, 8:16 PM
Stuttgart88

That's the kernel of this issue really. With luck he could have played for Brazil, but I'm sure he doesn't pine. Pecan pick himself up and move on.
19/05/2016, 8:24 PM
tricky_colour

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Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

You're completely ignoring the crux of my point. I'm not arguing whether the finishes are good or clinical or whether he was effective in front of goal converting them. I'm saying he won't be afforded the space he got at a higher level and when the time comes to take a second touch to create his own space, I don't know how effective he'll be.

What makes you think Long or Keane would have got 7? Long has banged in more than 7 at PL level this season and is a much more rounded striker. Keane has been scoring those kind of goals at a higher level for close to 20 years. In fairness now...

I haven't seen much of Amond. One thing I'll say is he played a lot on the wing, apparently, when he was in League Two. Maybe teams will place more confidence in him as a front man with this record now and maybe he'll cope with better defenders with ease...

Amond seems to be a better finisher than Long, granted he will likely not have his pace.
He is more like Keane except he is a much better header of the ball infact
he seems to be a better header of the ball than anyone were have.

Perhaps is the case he is not so good at the physical aspects.

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