Roy Keane on Henry and John Delaney

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Originally Posted by cudsy1

can i just point out that we would never have qualified 2002 without his displays, and our barren spell of non qualifications for major tournaments would currently be standing at 15 years and counting

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Can I just point out that without Jason McAteers goals home and away to Holland and him winning the penalty in the home leg of the play off we would never have qualified in 2002 and our barren spell of non qualifications for major tournaments would currently be standing at 15 years and counting.

Ditto for Robbie Keane and Ian Hartes goals in the qualifiers and Shay Given's displays in goal. Etc etc.

Keane was magnificent in that campaign but he wasn't the only man on the team.

The only thing I disagreed with during Keano's rant was that it was Shay's fault. I don't think a keeper would go for a ball like that particularly when there were so many bodies in the way.

I think people respect Thierry Henry more than Roy Keane.

Keane had a few points (Georgia, Delaney) but the man is an absolute pig. What's he giving an extended interview at Ipswich about the Republic of Ireland for anyway? Do yourself a favour Roy and get over yourself, and concentrate on your own team because you're one **** manager. And by the way McShane was one of your signings, so go fcuk yourself while you're at it, Ipswich wouldn't defend themselves you hypocritical arsehole :rolleyes:

you have to admit that keane makes a couple of good points...still i believe he is a bitter man,he's been waiting in the long grass to have a go at delaney for years..but in fairness it is time to forget about saipan,what is it with ireland and controversy when it comes to world cups...we were the talk of 2002 because of the shambles in saipan and now we are the talk of world football over wednesday night,i think keane is right and we have to move on and forget about it,yes we were cheated but granting a replay will open a huge can of worms for fifa in the future,every time there is a controversial match deciding decision replays will be sought (sunderland balloon incident,pedro mendes goal v united,i'm sure there is loads more)..people need to move on because all this talk of a rematch is just false hope for people,there's not a snowballs chance in hell that we'll get one!!

Just watched the interview, bet the reporter dat got that scoop is gettin a bonus in his next pay packet; amazin interview.
He defo had a rant but you have to agree with him on some levels. Some of his comments will hurt the Irish players for sure but the truth hurts; I was in Paris and I can honestly say that I have never seen an Irish team play so well but you have to ask yourself where were they for the rest of the campaign why were they not playing to dis potential we all know they have in them. I don't get any joy from sayin dat but having had 48hrs to digest it all now we had some lousy results and performances, crazy decisions by our manager with players call-ups (or expulsions) & team selections.
On the plus side we were unbeaten in the group and we drew with the Italians; I did'nt miss a game in the group home and away and I love supporting the bhoyz in green thru the highs and lows along the way. We have to think to the future and be positive.
I think we won in Paris both morally but most importantly on the pitch, there was never gona be a replay; they had to cheat to beat the bhoyz in green but "you'll never beat the Irish". Bring on Euro 2012.....

It still amazes me that people still think what this knacker has to say is relevant. The man was an absolute disgrace to his country and is in no position to criticise the Ireland team.


If he is such an expert on good defending, why is his team bottom of the League?


If anyone else said this, fair enough I wouldn't agree with their opinion, but they're entitled to it. But for Roy Keane to have a dig at the Irish players after they fought heroically against France (best performance since Holland 2001 IMO), is just not acceptable. It's cheap publicity if I've ever seen it. Especially from a man who ran from the cause of his country all those years ago. *****. How dare he even mention the Ireland team.

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Rubbish. Say McShane had put the ball out for a corner and they'd scored from that? He'd be getting slated for giving away a needless corner. The ball was going out for a goal kick till Henry handled it and there were 2 players including the eventual goalscorer clearly offside, blaming the defence and the keeper is nonsense and is clearly a personal dig at the players involved. And the pure hypocrisy of the man saying we need to get over it at the start of his rant and then proceeding to give out yards about Saipan 7 years on is comical in a sad bitter sort of way. Those slavishly following him and still hanging on his every word sound more aiculous by the day and all.

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I have to say I always defended Keane and still agree with him on some issues, but his comments today are terrible.Ok, we had enough chances to win,Mcshane should have cleared.However, the fact is we were done by a goal at should have been disallowed.everything else is irrelevant when discussing that goal.his lack of sympathy is awful.

Anybody know what the problem between him and Given is? does it relate to the the incident of the goalkeepers not training as much in Saipan ?

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Originally Posted by Girl in Green

Bring on Euro 2012.....

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Yes!......the sooner we have another competitive game the better. Unfortunately we're going to have to wait a while. (it won't be a replay)

That interview is a disgrace on so many levels.

Firstly, what an insult to Trapp to criticise his players so publicly, players he shared a dressing-room with let's not forget.
As highlighted so eloquently by so many earlier, the hypocrisy in the article is laughable.
Bringing up "Saipan" and then emphasising the phrase "get over it" being a particular highlight. The McShane criticism another. The criticism of ex-players for making money from the press over the incident! Sorry Roy, how much money did you make from your post-Saipan autobiography!?

Roy Keane was a great footballer. A joy to watch and an immense presence in the middle of the park. There is no doubting this.
However, it seems the very same character traits that made him a great player make him a bad manager. There's no compromise, no empathy.
He's the centre of his own world and is seemingly driven entirely by bitterness and hate. He's used this incident to fuel his own anti-FAI agenda.
Regardless of how wednesday's game was settled, on the field that night were eleven men who gave their all for the cause. They ran themselves into the ground on foreign soil, against all odds and deserved so much for their efforts. To criticise them after a performance like that is an absolute scandal. I have no good feeling towards Roy anymore.
What was it his great mate Dunphy once called Venables? "An A-List celebrity, a Z-List Manager".

Keane - Shut it

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Originally Posted by cudsy1

can i just point out that we would never have qualified 2002 without his displays, and our barren spell of non qualifications for major tournaments would currently be standing at 15 years and counting

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Typical s**te from a no doubt proud Man U fan/Corkonian? If that's your alliegance above Ireland get yourself on Red Issue.

Ireland has and always will be about the sum of the parts. The same team work ethic which reduced the mighty team of french individuals to bystanders on Wednesday night. Keano wasn't the only standout player of that campaign, as Drumcondra rightly says, and as our "stellar player" weren't we due a good campaign from him? The fact of the matter is that for all his footballing prowess can you honestly say that we reaped the full benefits of his ability across his career in comparison to his Captain Fantastic appearances for United?

The man is steeped in bitterness by the bare facts. He was a relative bystander in 94, we didn't qualify for anything with him in the team for 10 years and then when we did he walked out on his country like a petulant child.

He walked out on his country and took the hopes of a nation with him when it mattered most. In his own words "What goes around comes around", and I sincerely hope it haunts him to his dying day.

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5750/keane2.png
(maybe I should've gone with the evil clown look but this will do I suppose)

He is right about:

- The acceptance of cheating in the game has been rampant for years - therefore it is unfair to blame Henry.

He has a slight point about:

- Ireland should have defended the freekick better.

He is wrong about:

- More or less everything else.

He is a **** because:

He is a bitter bitter man only interested in his stubborn ego and views.

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Originally Posted by Den Perry

Anybody know what the problem between him and Given is? does it relate to the the incident of the goalkeepers not training as much in Saipan ?

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I believe that was the start of it. I watched a lot of Newcastle v. Man. United games since then and never once saw Shay and Roy shake hands before or after a game let alone have any form of conversation.

Roy has had a go at him on a number of occasions about chasing caps. Personally I think Shay is a legend for his dedication (along with Kilbane, Dunne, Duffer and Robbie).

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Originally Posted by Den Perry

Anybody know what the problem between him and Given is?

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Yes. Given is a great player and decent human being, while Keane was a great player and is a complete and utter tosser. That's why they don't get on.

At least Shay Given turned up for the second leg of the play off.

Roy Keane played a critical role in getting us to the playoffs in 2001. Shay Given got us to the finals.

Even if every word Keane said was right (I've already categorically disputed the comparison with the Georgia incident and a lot of the rest is debatable) the tone of his interview singles him out as a bitter sad man.

I'm proud of every single one of the lads who took to the pitch on Wednesday, even poor McShane who I thought was miles out of his depth. I'll maintain until my dying days that Roy Keane was a great great footballer but I've no pride in him whatsoever. He could be from Kazakhstan for all we have in common.

Bizarre interview by Keane, i honestly think the guy is mentally unstable.

Tells Ireland to move on and get over it & then proceeds to go back to when he abandoned his country in 2002 and moaning abour Delaney etc..

"Didn't even phone me", "didn't even knocked the door of my room"

Act your age Roy!

Roy's all ME..ME..ME.

Roy is definitely not the full shilling. In his playing days he was able to channel his energies on the pitch, where he patrolled the pitch like a lunatic. These days he doesn't have that outlet so instead we now have to listen to him pontificating with his anal bulls**t on a regular basis. Roy Keane has a go at someone, wow stop the press :rolleyes: Keane is typical of the working class knacker that fashions a career in football. No class, no intelligence, no integrity, no brains. I hope he keeps his mouth shut on Ireland matters in the future as nobody wants to hear his bitter bile. Won't be long before we'll all be laughing at him when he's out of a job again in a few months time anyway so it's all the one.

Will Keane ever let Saipan rest?

In fact does he ever get over any grudge?

Ok so he has a grudge against John Delaney, but blaming the FAI for all this and saying basically this was deserved by some of the team and the FAI is going way over the top. I hope that occurs to him.

Get behind the Irish team Roy.

Yes chances were missed, that doesn't mean Ireland deserved to lose.