Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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29/07/2009, 1:22 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by micls

According to our forum, the players were told they are free agents as they werent paid today.

What impact does "free agent" status have as regards the transfer window. Can other LoI clubs sign free agents after the transfer window closes?

I suspect that there is very little opportunity for most of these players anyway, with other LoI clubs before the close season. Sligo, Drogheda and Dundalk have been active in signing players in the window, and presumable are fully committed. Shamrock Rovers may have some capacity, Bohs have a transfer embrago and it is difficult to see any of the remainder of Derry, Galway, St Pats or Bray, having any signifcant means to sign new players.
29/07/2009, 1:23 PM
micls

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

What impact does "free agent" status have as regards the transfer window. Can other LoI clubs sign free agents after the transfer window closes?

Yes, once they are free agents before the transfer window closes.
29/07/2009, 1:33 PM
passerrby

maybe a silly question but could TC not give any monies he may have to Foras before the friday deadline that could be used in the future or is all the spoken for.
29/07/2009, 1:35 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by passerrby

maybe a silly question but could TC not give any monies he may have to Foras before the friday deadline that could be used in the future or is all the spoken for.

He had bank drafts ready at the court. Presumably revenue will hit him hard for these anyway
29/07/2009, 1:42 PM
don ramo

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

What impact does "free agent" status have as regards the transfer window. Can other LoI clubs sign free agents after the transfer window closes?

id say therell be a problem with the players that signed for cork during the winter, as they cant play for a third club in the footballin year, could cause a few problems,
29/07/2009, 1:43 PM
razor

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Originally Posted by Dodge

He had bank drafts ready at the court. Presumably revenue will hit him hard for these anyway

Somebody saw Coughlans legal team with some drafts after the court last Monday so presumably the revenue didn't take them then.

If we are wound up on Friday is there any onus on Coughlan to hand over what money he has?

can he walk away or will the liquidator get them?
29/07/2009, 1:54 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by don ramo

id say therell be a problem with the players that signed for cork during the winter, as they cant play for a third club in the footballin year, could cause a few problems,

The FIFA year runs July-July so they're fine.
29/07/2009, 2:00 PM
don ramo

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Originally Posted by Mr A

The FIFA year runs July-July so they're fine.

works out great for them so,

does anyone know if the game friday will go ahead
29/07/2009, 2:02 PM
Mr A

Not a hope I think, CCFC will be wound up earlier in the day.
29/07/2009, 2:23 PM
sonofstan

Would Bray consider playing the match as a friendly, so fans could have some kind of 'moment'?
29/07/2009, 2:25 PM
don ramo

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/2266/

apparently its going ahead, being used to shows other clubs what kind of players are available,

and the players have defered there wages for a week, and that gives couglan and extra E120,000 to offer the revenue,
so, if he gives it to the revenue hows he gonna pay the players:confused:
29/07/2009, 2:27 PM
don ramo

also isnt it a bit dodgy for both teams, especially if someone gets injured, bray have a the rest of the season to worry about, and the city players need new clubs, who gonna sign an injured player,

i really hope they have a friendly one,
29/07/2009, 2:34 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by passerrby

maybe a silly question but could TC not give any monies he may have to Foras before the friday deadline that could be used in the future or is all the spoken for.

His company is about to be wound up. If he transferred money out of it now, I would be surprised if he didn't go to jail for it.
29/07/2009, 2:37 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by harry crumb

Sad attitude.

The vasy majority of Cork City supporters are decent sporting fans.

Don't understand how any right minded LOI supporter could take satisfation in the loss of an important club like Cork City.

The demise of Cork City is on a totally different scale to Dublin City. We have a history and a generation that has grown up with the club. Dublin City was still in its infancy.:(

James has posted a great post on the City seciton http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=121601

honestly, how anyone can be happy about this situation beggars belief.
Following the demise of Cobh this now leaves the 2nd biggest city (and biggest county) in Ireland without a LOI team. An awful day for Irish football and especially for Cork fans. Hope they can regroup in some form in the future:(
29/07/2009, 2:37 PM
passerrby

would bray be oblidged to play a game in this instance
29/07/2009, 2:49 PM
shep

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Originally Posted by passerrby

would bray be oblidged to play a game in this instance

Yeah,because what if a player got suspended(i know injured was already mentioned)

Ah hopefully by some miracle they will be around come Friday,a big points deduction and let them see out the season even with a team of youths...if for nothing else at least there would be revenue from gate reciepts for FORAS
29/07/2009, 2:50 PM
Joseph McSweene

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Originally Posted by passerrby

would bray be oblidged to play a game in this instance

Don't think they'd have to play it, but they possibly would. Might be interested in a few defenders from us considering the state of their defending in some games this season!:eek::o
29/07/2009, 3:17 PM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Following the demise of Cobh this now leaves the 2nd biggest city (and biggest county) in Ireland without a LOI team.

Certainly no LOI team, but Cork is not Ireland's 2nd biggest city. According to the 2006 Irish Census, the population figures are:

Cork City = 119,418
Metropolitan Cork = 274,000
County Cork = 481,295

By contrast, the latest population figures from NI are:
Belfast City = 267,374
Greater (or "Metropolitan") Belfast = 645,536.

By way of comparison, Belfast has four teams in the Irish Premier League (Glens, Linfield, Crues and Cliftonville), plus another (Donegal Celtic) in the Championship.

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Hope they can regroup in some form in the future:(

Seeing as Belfast has too many teams, and Cork now has none, I'd be quite happy to let you have one of our spares for free.
"Cork True Blues" or maybe "Linfield Rebels" anyone? ;)

http://www.cso.ie/statistics/popofea...tycity2006.htm
http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/factsa...mographics.asp
29/07/2009, 3:22 PM
passinginterest

Just to show that it's not only the League of Ireland that sees clubs go into liquidation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...on/8174920.stm

Actually a few similarities, in that a new owner takes over, claims to have invested lots of personal money and continues to refuse to admit that all is lost.
29/07/2009, 3:42 PM
White Horse

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Certainly no LOI team, but Cork is not Ireland's 2nd biggest city. According to the 2006 Irish Census, the population figures are:

Cork City = 119,418
Metropolitan Cork = 274,000
County Cork = 481,295

By contrast, the latest population figures from NI are:
Belfast City = 267,374
Greater (or "Metropolitan") Belfast = 645,536.

I'd say he was referring to the country rather than the island.

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