James Maddison got his first call-up to the England U21 squad. That is the end of that so.
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James Maddison got his first call-up to the England U21 squad. That is the end of that so.
Only a senior competitive cap with England would actually tie him, although I see he posted the following on Instagram:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
http://i68.tinypic.com/2vifnnc.png
It seems England is definitely where his heart is. How does he qualify for Ireland, out of interest?
I have seen it mentioned a few times that he has an Irish grandparent. It doesn't matter now anyway, I would consider him gone. We have never been able to convince any ex-England U21 cap to join us previously (even the North convinced Lee Camp) and I doubt that is going to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
For some reason, I'd thought Ciarán Clark had played with their under-21s, but it seems you're right. He played up to under-20 level. Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Jon Macken was under 20 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
There is a young guy(19) called Callum O'Hare on the bench for villa. Anyone know if he qualifies
Supposedly he does qualify. Looks a decent player too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Kieran O'Neill Dowell on loan to Notts Forest from Everton must surely qualify too. Very useful player in the making but he is in the English U21 setup so I presume that is another lost cause.
*edit* According to Rob Brennan on twitter, the FAI have spoken to Dowell who is eligible.
https://twitter.com/RobBrennan82/sta...99791833751552
So we have two "he doesn't qualify" and one "he does qualify" - Callum O'Hare that is. Any more bidders.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Yes but he was also crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Would be very surprised if O'Hare weren't eligible given his connections to John Mitchells GAA and Warwickshire GAA. He also has a sister who is a world champion Irish Dancer
https://twitter.com/warwickshireclg/...18534159601665
http://www.solihullnews.net/news/loc...ancing-7047836
Hard to know how accurate this site is:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/spiele...d=189&yt0=Show
but it does list O'Hare as eligible. On the PFA forms when you register it asks you for any other nationalities. Their database isn't the easiest to get access to anymore but I wouldn't be suprised if the data on this site is using that or has some factual basis.
Other players not listed as Irish but as a 2nd nationality (seems fairly accurate)
(England)
Michael Keane
Nathan Redmond
Mark Noble
Aaron Lennon
Kyle Naughton
Jack Grealish
Patrick Bamford
Sean Morrison
Jon Flanagan
David Nugent
Calum McManaman
Peter Crouch
Will Buckley
Will Keane
Adam Hammill
Dan Crowley
Luke Chambers
Mark Bunn
Sean O'Hanlon
Lee Boylan
Ben Heneghan
Luke Williams
Paul Marshall
James Wallace
(Scotland)
Jim O'Brien
Ryan O'Leary
Stephen O'Donnell
(Northern Ireland)
Alex Bruce
Callum Morris
Michael O'Connor
Tony Kane
Adam McGurk
Michael Duffy
Kevin Deery
Dale Gorman
Patrick McEleney
Just going through the U23 squads for any others we might not have mentioned
Arsenal Marcus McGuane (18)
Aston Villa Callum O'Hare (19)
Everton Jack Kiersey (19)
Everton Shayne Lavery (18)
Southampton Will Ferry (15)
FC Twente Lukas Browning Lagerfeldt (18)
Just seen that a young striker called Matthew Shiels who plays for Rangers and has played U16 and U17 for Scotland has accepted a call up to the Irish U18 squad. Good to see.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football...nder-18-squad/
So Peter Crouch was eligible to play for us? Never knew that. Anyone know anything further on that?
I heard that Crouch thing before but never heard the reasons why.
I assume Granny or Granddad.
Crouch would have suited our agricultural hoofball style of play perfectly, but instead we had to rely on Caleb Folan. A missed opportunity there!
Certainly wasn't a missed opportunity for Crouch himself you would have to say, with 42 caps and 22 goals for England, as well as playing in two World Cups.
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Good to see Will Ferry in there too.
Ha, no, that's true. I meant from our perspective, but not entirely seriously either. I don't think there was ever a hint of him declaring.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I'd forgotten about Browning, was wondering if he'd made any progress at Twente. Turns out he appeared for the Swedish U19s a month ago in their qualifiers: http://www.uefa.com/under19/season=2...ups/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Balls.ie reporting Shiels has grandparents from Donegal. He has expressed his delight on Twitter. Interesting stuff.
Fantastic a real credit to our scouting. Great to see brown from derry come over from the norths set up. Welcome lads
I think that is Brennan's first involvement with us which means I think at this age group we will have 2 ciarain Brennan's one at Southampton and this one. Has there been lots of times two Irish players with the same name played together for Ireland?
His dad was on twitter a couple of weeks back shopping a story about the SFA & Scottish schools not working together so you might think it had something to do with that, once again their loss is our gain!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
https://twitter.com/shiels_thomas/st...72718792200194
How does this squad compare to our under 17s and 19s, Liamo? Some of the better players from both those ages groups making it into this would lead me to believe it's fairly stacked. Connolly and Idah up front? Wouldn't complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Here's Rory Brown's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/rorybrownz?lang=enQuote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
And a bit more on him from an article two years ago when he signed for Wolves: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/02/05...n-a-three-yea/
Interestingly, Brown attended Foyle College (known as "Foyle and Londonderry College" until 2011), which is non-denominational but was always seen as "the Protestant grammar school" in the city. Derry's other grammar schools are all Catholic. I don't know whether things have changed now, but I know they didn't have a football or gaelic team back when I was at St. Columb's from 1997 to 2004. Rugby and cricket have always been the main sporting focus of Foyle, whilst 'GSTQ' was regularly played at prize-giving ceremonies and the like, according to past pupils of Foyle that I know. Not sure if that's still the case, but was definitely the case up until under a decade ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathew Nash
In saying that, I do know a few people from nationalist/Catholic Ireland-supporting backgrounds who attended the school - indeed, 12 former pupils went on to become priests - so attendance isn't necessarily indicative of a Protestant, unionist or British-identifying background.
His grandmother is from Letterkenny, grandfather from Manorcunningham about 5 miles from Letterkenny towards Derry/Lifford direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
this age group made the second round in the euros finals in may and got knocked out by the brits who obviously won the world cup last week and are outrageous. Think we had 5 of those who are underage this year at 17 s so we probably lacked a bit of depth in this age group so great to see extra keeper, extra centre half, ferry a midfielder and the rangers lad added. No mccauley imagine how freaked we wood be if he was English born!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
unsurprisingly, that comes from the Daily Record: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...anded-11476413Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
also contains this, I had assumed the games were not competitive (i.e. not a UEFA or FIFA competition) and this would see to confirm thatQuote:
Shiels is eligible to play for Republic of Ireland through his grandparents, who are both from Donegal.
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But even if Shiels is capped at U18 level, he will still be able to switch back to Scotland.
Thanks Nigel. That on his mother's or father's side?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Fathers side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
How well he has the young lad playing with the Gers so... Would have thought Celtic would be the team for Shiels senior?
Definitely. He would have been a great replacement for Niall Quinn.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Is it just me or does that seem pretty shameless by his old man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wangball
Beggars can't be choosers. I can't play for Ireland simply because I'd prefer to ahead of my junior side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
doesn't seem a great idea to put your mobile number on twitter. What's the tweet supposed to mean? Is it soccer schools he is talking about or academic schools that youth team players at rangers attend? It's very random in fairnessQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
If he's making it onto our 18s and training with the Rangers seniors and scoring goals for the underage sides then I doubt he's much of a beggar as far as footballing ability goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Courting a bit of media attention or trying to expose a problem? We have seen the former before by another son of two Irish people and father of an underage player of ours...Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
https://www.betisweb.com/foro/princi...-irlanda/page2 this lad played for our 15s this week
Anselmo García Mac Nulty? That's an interesting one now.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Garcia McNulty to Doyle Hayes to Gregor Cox to Okoflex to poor old Duffy with the very bland Irish name. This future is coming soon!
Don't know if He's had a mention here before but a decent performance from Jacob Murphy for Newcastle against Man U over the weekend. He has a brother at Norwich who also qualifies for us. We could certainly do with a premier leaguer on the right of midfield if he could be brought on board.