Agreed. Putting out the best side possible tomorrow and going for the win is a non brainer.
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It won't change things from Dundalk's point of view (assuming they win the league) as every club from Kosovo will have a co-efficient of 0.000 and therefore be below Dundalk. It just means there will be 10 teams in the First Qualifying Round next season, as opposed to 8 this season.
Sure, they'll have no direct influence on those results, but that doesn't mean there aren't results in the matches involving Maccabi and AZ that are objectively beneficial to Dundalk and that they can hope for. The whole concept of group football ensures that other teams' performances against each other come into play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
It should be noted that Dundalk are ahead of both AZ (by virtue of goals scored away from home) and Maccabi (due to beating them) in the head-to-head rankings which come into play when they're level on points. Assuming Zenit go on and win their remaining matches, which is by no means a certainty, I feel 2 draws between AZ and Maccabi would be ideal. It would leave AZ on 3 points and Maccabi on 2 points. Means that even if AZ beat Dundalk in Game 5, Dundalk won't be eliminated and will have to beat Maccabi, but Maccabi will be eliminated so they may take their foot off the gas in the final game (not that it looked like they had it on in the last game!).
Failing that, I think a win for AZ v Maccabi and a draw between them in the second game would be best. It would leave AZ a point ahead of Dundalk before they come to Dublin with Zenit still to play, and Maccabi again already eliminated by the final match. Of course, Zenit could well start to relax as well in the last game or two if already assured of first place handing 'easier' points to AZ and Maccabi.
Is it next year the whole CL qualifying structure is changing though?
That'll change things a fair bit.
A friend of a friend is on MON's staff and told me that for Dundalk's European games MONs analysts have been brought in free of charge and done tonnes of opposition scouting and analysis for dubdalk. They would have been the ones who provided Dundalk with the DVDs etc.
I agree that the performances are the stand out feature.
By the way, I don't subscribe to comparing teams who played in different eras.
The most successful team in Europe remains Jim McLaughlin's Dundalk who went so close to meeting Real Madrid in the quarter final of the European Cup.
However, I remember that team and they were nowhere near the level of this Dundalk side.
Edit: Sort of wrong thread
I'll leave the Euro stuff.
The result also pretty much finalises the European Qualifiers (though the CL spot is still to be decided). Sligo are 11 points back with a game in hand. 11 points in 5 games is nigh on impossible to make up.
Great post, thanks. I presume you're ignoring Austria, Croatia and Poland as it's a safe bet they'll be seeded? Has to be noted that clubs from any league still active in Europe still have the chance to bump up their coefficient (like Dundalk). It does look like we'd need another point or two though.
You get an idea of the seeding coeff in the 2nd qual draw from the relevant season's CL qual wiki page. In this season's draw the seeding cut off coeff. was 5.400.
In 2014/15 the seeding cut off coeff was similar
With another draw probably Dundalk will be home and dry inside seeding territory for the 2nd round draw, should they be the LOI title holders.
It's also possible that SR did not make an adequate appeal but just assumed they had to follow the orders.
That was 2011/12 season.
Pats moved their 3rd rd 2nd leg EL qual to Tallaght.
KR played their 3rd rd 1st leg EL qual at home, only 1400 seats, less than Richmond Pk.
It's possible (unlikely though) that dispensation from the standard was granted by Uefa on a random basis in 2011, but surely someone at Pats would have seen that KR had already received dispensation and asked why not us, why can't we play at home?
No tickets available on Ticketmaster all day.
In addition, another protest planned for Tallaght Stadium on Thursday.
http://irishsyriasolidaritymovement....-20th-october/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuy3DnZWIAAy9oX.jpg
^^ i weep for Ireland!!
I wouldn't say there'd be much overlap between the people protesting Putin and people at, say, a water march.
Ticketmaster say the game is sold out.
Amazing what an effect a protest march can have.
Tickets are currently available on Ticketmaster
Like I said an the other thread. I hope Dundalk go in to the game on Thursday on a bit of high and not let tired legs in the way of another great European night. Zenit are presumably a different league to even Bate/Legia Warsaw... but Dundalk looked great against Alkmaar.
A sneaky draw at home...?
win v Bohs on the sunday... and rest the team wth another sneaky away draw... give Cork the cup and then focus on the last two European games..
According to my calculations though qualifying will more likely rest on beating Alkmaar at home and Maccabi away (6 points plus 4 = 10 and regardless of Alkmaar getting 9 more points from their other 3 games Dundalk qualify on a head to head...)
a draw v Zenit while a great result plus 4 points from the last two games (rather than 6) would mean 9 points and would mean Alkmaar might sneak through by beating Zenit in that last game...
Realistically 4 points would still be a great haul from the last two games (and would be 3 co-efficient points to more or less gaurentee seeding... sadly it seems that at least another point or two might be necessary...)
I'm going to be over in Dublin Thursday I think. Checked online none available :(
I'm staying in swords, is it possible to park anywhere near tallaght stadium, assuming more tickets become available?
If anyone has a spare let me know :D
Cheers SeanD. Ill look at that now. I imagine at that time its only a half hour getting from North to south via m50 assuming no crash or that.
I imagine they do this to sell in blocks so they can group people together, but its annoying and it might make people who would otherwise have bought tickets not go.