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In fact, here and here, we have people stating the capacity of the Cross to be 7,500, maybe 8,000 max. Yet you have people swearing blind that there was up to one-third more people in the ground than it apparently can hold? And then people whine because I be conservative with the attendances! Mad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
Good man Partizan. If all else fails, a retarded dig at UCD will always get the point across.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
I think pineapple stu is just jealous of other clubs attendances
Our official average league attendance for 2005 is 1,972
Yeah, that's it.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 9 2 8
And every single official attendance ended with at least two zeros. Coincidence, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 9 2 8
It's to the nearest 50. So if 1989 was at the game it's put down as 2000 or if 1922 it's put down as 1900. The figures the club release aren't exact but they are very close to the actual attendance. These figures would include guests, season ticket holders and VIP's who don't go through the turnstiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Why, if they know the exact figure, do they round it or is it simply guesswork on their part as they don't know the exact figure of how many were in the ground?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 9 2 8
Sorry, no good.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 9 2 8
(a) What Slash/Ed said
(b) If it's to the nearest 50, why didn't any of the attendances end in 50? You'd have expected half of them to have on average.
maybe we can get a more offical figure list for 2006 ?? I.E enforce the clubs to count the public or send sold tickets stubs back to the FAI. The clubs shouldnt be too hung up on the numbers but its good to see how the Eircom League is fairing.
partizan.youre some man for the ridiculous guesstimates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
7500 MAXIMUM. now dont waste anyones time by arguing that
Well the 2003 figures show that Cork's largest crowd was 9,000. You said in an earlier post that european-football-statistics get the information from you ... so you're not so sure yourself!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Cork fans overestimate?! Well, with all due respects shaving off 2,500 from a probable 9,000 is a tad overly conservative.
I'm sure Cork City will report 7,500. The club is hardly going to admit to breaking the carrying capacity laid out in their fire regulations. 9,000 is a pretty fair estimation, even allowing for some conservativism.
I suppose only by being there could you get a real sense of the crowd!
That's 2004, not 2003. People were claiming over 10000 for that game. Pete has posted up the capacity of Turner's Cross, and I've linked to it above. It gives capacity as 7450. 1500-2500 is a lot of extra people to fit into a packed ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
Ehhh...9000-7500 is a drop of 1500, not 2500. With Cork releasing official figures this season, we've seen that it's quite possible - common, even - for Cork fans to overestimate by 1500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
If an official figure is released by the club which says that the attendance was up around 8500 or 9000, fair enough - I'll put it in. But for now, I'm quite happy to go with the figure newspapers are saying is official over fans' guesstimates, which have in the past - and I include myself - been too high. Cork's attendances are apparently down 10% this year when they've been top of the league most of the season. Do you reckon this is true? If not, then it's the effects of overestimation.
It's funny that people would rather rather claim that the attendance was dangerously over capacity than accept the figure of 7,500.
If it turns out that Cork allowed 9,000 into the ground then there would surely be severe consequences - a heavy fine, possible closure of the ground and maybe even a withdrawal of the UEFA license???
Amusing coming from a Waterford fan when there were about 300 in the RSC when we played there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
What an idiotic statement - slagging the true fans who go to games about the people who aren't thereQuote:
Contrast that with UCD's total hardcore fan base of 90.
Right, an initial final update. Last season in brackets. (2) indicates a match in the second round of games. I'm going to post a few messages on the various forums to fill the blanks and will update this with any figures I get. Usual thanks to all who helped out! Hopefully get a couple more clubs releasing official figures from next season...
PREMIER
Bohs 1941 (2340) (missing Pat's and Shels 2)
Bray 1550 (818)
Cork 3593 (4033)
Derry 2698 (1672)
Drogheda 1703 (1554) (missing Harps 2 and Shels 2)
Harps 1347 (1106) (missing Shels and Rovers 2)
Longford 1038 (1131) (missing Shels 2 and Waterford 2)
Pat's 1645 (1882)
Rovers 1539 (1349)
Shels 1949 (2158)
UCD 653 (306)
Waterford 1513 (1753)
FIRST
Athlone 323 (291) (missing Cobh 2 and Galway 2)
Cobh 403 (240) (missing Galway 2)
Dublin City 172 (592) (missing Kildare 2, Kilkenny 2 and Monaghan 2)
Dundalk 474 (591) (missing Cobh 2, Galway 2 and Kildare 2)
Galway 566 (571)
Kildare 217 (298) (missing Cobh (2), Dundalk (both), Kilkenny (both), Monaghan 2 and Sligo 2)
Kilkenny 173 (110) (missing Athlone (both), Cobh (2), Dublin City (2), Dundalk (both), Galway (2), Kildare and Sligo 2)
Limerick 715 (188) (missing Dundalk 2 and Kildare 2)
Monaghan 200 (182) (missing Athlone 2, Cobh (both), Dublin City (2), Dundalk (2), Kildare (both) and Kilkenny (2))
Sligo 1819 (781)
Premier Division - 1769 (1853)
First Division - 566 (512)
Overall average - 1248 (1218)
Recent matches missing -
Bohs v Shels
Pat's v Longford
Cobh v Galway
Kilkenny v Sligo
Limerick v Kildare
Monaghan v Dundalk
Bout 400-450.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Wow, after all the "shít club, no fans", it seems like our attendances are higher than that of Rovers, Pats and Bohs....
You are confusing Shels "Fans" with the number attending matches in Tolka Park.
Official capacity for the cross is 7500. Shed was unbeliveably packed & conservative extra 1000 in it. Ground was 60 minutes pre ko. 9000 is conservative estimnate at attendance as 10,000 might be pushing it.
So Cork City would rather get an extra 15 grand or so in gate receipts than comply with safety regulations. Any Derry City fans who were at the game might want to consider a lawsuit to console themselves for missing out on the title...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Of course that was just my view as might have been numerous empty seats i couldn't see ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint