liamsean banned no sure about hubba ya nala abit firey but great player it a wondering why is not on the aul panel ??
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I remember nalla playing with Everton seniors didn't last too long great player though
liamsean Permanent im sure hubba not to sure!! ya they have good ball players all over the the field as someone on here all ready said kilreen wouldnt look outta place in premier
We had a good win today against Leeds, must say they have some very good young players, and with a little more belief in themselves they could have a lot more points than they do currently. The game itself was scoreless until the last 25mins. I hope they stick it out for the season cause they will be a lot better for it next season.
We managed to get out agsin today.helicopter had to move around.but we got there eventually. Match was moved to douglas but we battled on.junior clubs in cork gave us harder games.no disrespect to msl but imo junior league in cork is better than msl imo.
i understand wher your coming from ok msl is better but not mjl and the gulf is not as big as people are saying imo but the aul prem teams well most of them would hold there own over a full season.the amount of aul teams going further in fai is no fluke every year .iv seen teams in the junior side and to be honest its brutal.go watch pearse and kilumney what football.
I can only go on what we have played so far in fai senior and munster senior.and none of them have turned us over.ie avondale, everton sr marys douglas hall some crowd in fermoy cant remember their name.but as far as im concerned we've got tougher games off the junior teams in cork.ie.grattan.leeside.coachford.douglas.springfi eld etc.anyone thinks the gulf in seniir and junior in cork is huge.is way off the mark.thats just my opioion on what ive seen to date.dont know if everton were missing players but they are a very poor side.oh forgot to put in cork city there as well.juniir teams for me all day.
One for in your opinion what is the reason that we are not getting more teams, sorry any teams to at least the semis of the Fai, who or what do you blame an if you dont mind can we keep this grown up, no lol's or i love every club.Our standing on this superb website is low enough with out any serious debate turning into a slagging match.
And before anyone blames the MSL let us all for one minute remember the junior teams in the Aul from the past 20 years or so and im on about proper top sides who have won Aul premier ,Munster Junior Cup, Aohs, Mossies, had represntitive players on not just the Oscar Traynor but capped at International level an not sides who consider themselves top sides, proven sides.
Temple United or Castleview, iconic sides, Greenmount at there best quite possibly the most talented squad of players I have ever seen,Kinsale, Passage,Rockville in there prime, Hibs,Coachford , Grattan or Wilton and Leeside at there strongest. They were not sides who at there pinicle lost players to the MSL, i played an watched them all growing up an there individual squads all contained the best players in Cork , all had a bite at the cherry an it didnt work for them an evidently it transpired that a ref or a pitch was to blame, very few have held there hands up an said they wernt good enough.
I think personally that the heart an soul of football in Cork has an always will be in the Aul, its where clubs an dreams can start, the Msl is a level above wether people admit it or not, because there has to be somewhere better for lads or clubs to go if they want to train or play in a better way or on a better surface every week as oppose to a few times a season.
I spent the majority of my footballing career in the Aul an I love it an when there i looked at the Msl as football snobs but i was wrong.
Dont hate the Msl because the clubs in it wanted to improve or they wont tolerate togging off on the side of the road an play on a cow field, no disrespect to any cows that are reading.
Yes the standard amoungst the very few top Aul sides is very high, Id readily admit seeing iv played an managed on both sides that the very best in the Aul would give it a lash senior ,an proper senior at that because the Senior 1st is mainly clubs aspiring to greatness an busting a gut to get up to the Senior Premier or sides recently relegated who want to bounce back but the Senior 2 nd is bar one or 2 fairly poor even by MSL stantards, an thats meant in a footballing sense only, facilities an attitudes are very high as is expected of clubs who are hungry to improve.
But the of level of overall talent is on the MSL side, an i mean that in the context of overall squad strenght, they in an overall sense have players of a higher caliber, football seems to be what they have been brought up on, they train better, there training facilities generally are better an the people who control these generally have a higher understanding an knowledge of the game because they have decided they want to push themselves above what they have experienced in there own playing days, be it Aul , Msl or what ever.
The Aul is true grit, players just get on with it, irrelavant of conditions, its football in its purest form an individually there are superbly talented groups of players in the Aul, but it rarely stretches beyond 8 or 9 lads, when it dose we do well in the FAI or MJC as they say or we on the rare occasion get a international call up, an rarer still win the Oscar Traynor.
The AUl an MSL for the time being are necessery, id love nothing better if they joined forces but too much water has gone under that bridge i fear, dont hate either, more just appriciate the talent thats within an admit neither wants to be in the shadows of the other.
Avondale, an i credit there manager totally in this context have managed to comprise the greatest overall squad of players that the MSL or AUL has seen in many a year. No Cork club will do them in any normal game, hell no Irish amature side will do them,,,,,,
Macroom robbed yesterday i heard.game was 1-1 when a Springfield player punched the ball out of play ref only gave a corner
great post i agree with most and the lol was a joke with hotpot.you let out 2 things in your post i respect all those clubs you named ok but reson they got and kept players was rewards were to be had and i think because of 1 club up there football was set back because of ther long ball and physical game ..the big strong man game is gone fitnes is a must so now clubs should play more football and little less muscle .bring all that whats in your post to your club and you be flying we are trying to progres .msl is better but not the junior side of it .and take out the top 4 of senior no club or team in cork are near the pikes who mask inder a junior club i wonder what the likes john cotter avondale and pat caufield of gratan opinions are .
myself and the people involved in blarney st are puting together a club with a long plan and we dont intend to lose players to msl infact we expect 1 or 2 to come over to us.cant wait for the weekend game and the tuesday game v knockavilla and castleview.
Cheers for the nice comments lads. By the way Nala was asked to play with the aul but he works all nights and said he couldnt put the time in. 3 others from Kilreen were asked too but refused for personal reasons. Happy with the point in Innishannon on Saturday but could of won it in the end after coming back from 2 down. Must say they were the best team we played this year in the league. Nice outfit.
Some freekick ye scored in that game
Ya it was a great free kick. He doesnt score many but when he does they're special. Did you see nalas disallowed goal at 0-0. I think it should of stood.
I missed first 15 minutes
I thought it began as an AUL v MJL discussion? Littleman surely in a good place to argue that. Would your Grattan team win MJL? Would Mayfield today win AUL prem?
I hope the Kilreen guys had good reason not to go to AUL team - it would be terrible for those young guys to regret it later in life.
Not referring to those guys at all, but being asked and turning down representative football is not the badge of honour fellas might think it is.
Watch tables move now with midweek games on!! Will the leagues be done by end May?
Missed the game at the weekend. The lads disapointed in the draw, though Quinny saved second pen in a row!
With all due respct,Mr Cualfield managed a one off side.They won the Aul Premier after just being promoted,an too prove a point won it again,at a canter with Kinsale,Leeside,Ballyvolane and Wilton all throwing shapes. Coachford.Park and the rest were in all honesty just hanging in to stay up.No disrespect meant what so ever 1FOR,you deservedly won manager or the year,Caulfield is pure class.
He makes a 50% player a 110% player.I played with him ,he managed me,an he got the best out of me,an i drove him mad through out but he knew my strong points an used them when it suited an like any proper manager,dropped me when it suited.Ur out of ur depth next to Caulfield and Cotter with all due respect. Without doubt,an a cranky Man City fan he is,,,,but he is the best lad iv had as a manager.Bit like Cloughie,haha same weight. But a true players manager.Any player would be better for being envolved with him.
Cotter has managed to get the best squad well,,,,,, ever out in Avondale,,,,credit where credit is due
Personal reasons Horse. I'm sure if situations were different for them they would of snapped at the oppurtunity.
Firstly With all due respect Horse at the minute no we wouldnt.
Iv seen the best of both play an its very hit an miss theres weeks they all look superb an weeks they look ****e. The3 top 3 Aul sides are very strong,Pearse ,Killumney an coachford are strong sides an they would give sides at senior a good game no prob,Ringmahon would be awkard,capeable of being better but sometimes being a bit head wrecking.Midleton are a very good side,well capeable of challanging the best Aul sides.Coachford an Killumney are very good in fairness. But these sides are the top Aul sides at the minute,not over all,just at the minute.The rest Just hang in there, both leagues are simular actually
Pardon me lads but i meant Pearse,Killumney an Coachford,,,,,,,,,, my laptop is behaving badly haha
i dont compare my self to them bud with their records i lived on same road as caulfield decent bloke your way out where dose it state that. i think im in their league mangers dont win manger of the year players win that for him and i was asking what both those guys would have thought of your post considering they won the lot like im being told at the moment pat will earn his award this year keeping grattan up.as a mate says to me even the great cloughie got relegated and relax everyone has a pop of a guy that wins things .
Ifor you deservedly won manager of the year, u just refered to someone an i gave an opinion of them.
Good managers arnt short of confidence so fair dues to you in that respect, Best of luck in ur new position.
this is being silly lad i dont compare myself to them in any post and as for dominating cork i didnt say that either but that clubs 2 teams are doing well thats a fact ,3 is my fav number and one mans manager of the year is another man bluffer.3 pee pots you might call them to me there the result of a lot of hard work .the best manager in aul are eoin of kilumey and mick in coachford the one i like and admire is the guy in pearse now thats a boy with a good football team.one thing you will get with my teams is 90 min ++ i like the word competitive il tell you why on pm.
yes im a confidence builder to and i aim to bring that to the galactico,s must not forget this season either wer coming along nicely.there was alreddy a good vibe in blarney st and il tap into that and bring a little extra we carry on working hard .everyone knows who i am on here it dosent bother me .
Alright lads. Newish poster here. Long time reader. Involved with Boscos B in div 3a myself.Out of touch with top divisions as we at Boscos have had a tough few years but we're gradually bouncing back. Three teams on the go now, all competitive in their divisions and making progress.Notice a few posters here involved with div 3a teams. Could be an interesting run in. Lots of decent teams and a few more twists yet I reckon. Glen B seem to have it won but play off place up for grabs.
Just wanted to say a few things lads.. People are forgetting thats it's Pearse Celtics first ever season as a premier team and wherever we finish we had a great season, we never said we are a top team we try to play football the right way and we train hard every week to do that and bring it onto the field with us. Not many teams with 10 and then 9 men would play 3 at the back against a quality side like Coachford but we had the confidence to try it and were very unlucky not to come away with all 3 points. We will always have our doubters it's them that built us up no one from Pearse said this or that about us being great, as a club we have a long way to go but we're getting there. Hopefully we can finish strong and get a trophy but if not we are all proud of the season we've had and how far we have come.
Dilution of players is the reason aul and mjl league teams fail in the big cups you eluded to it in your post Littleman when you said juinor teams lucky to have 5 or 6 above average players . Too many clubs in cork too many choices for players to move around etc . That's my thinking on subject . Your team is only as strong as your weakest player . When you come up against good teams they'll have homework done and will target the weak links and they can change their style of play to do this .
I don't recall seeing 1for bigging himself up at all - in fact from the day he got the trophy he called it a team award. Kilumney cannot go senior with current facilities. Not sure I would put Kilumney guy with Mickey Walsh. The success in Kilumney didnt change when the manager left. That probably points to players. Top manager is guy who gets most from what he has.
Everyone in Cork knows Cork football needs only one league. It's in our powers to demand it, but can't see egos making it happen.
Youth league shows what can happen when we all think the same and put football first.