I'm glad the article refers to him as the "Northern Irishman".Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
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I'm glad the article refers to him as the "Northern Irishman".Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
You know too muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
I think it's safe to say Kingdom didn't write his Wikipedia page! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabri_Lamouchi
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He then went on to join Monaco, who he helped to the Ligue 1 title in 2000, before being snapped up by Parma of Italy. Even though he had an average season, he was again on the move this time to Italian giants Internazionale. He also struggled there, and failed to win a place in the team.
It's also safe to say Nottm Post didn't write his wiki page either.
'But who is Lamouchi?
French international : During his playing days, the midfielder turned out for a host of star studded clubs including Marseille, Parma and Inter Milan.
He was, however, at the peak of his powers during his time at Monaco, during which time he picked up 12 caps for his native France, scoring once.'
A lot of people delighted that O’Neill has failed at Forest it seems.
The last year with ROI was a disaster but when I think of O’Neill’s era for Ireland I think of O’Shea against Germany, Long against Germany, Brady scoring in the fog, Walters sending us to the Euros in the second leg, Sweden and Italy in the Euros, putting it up to a fresher France in the Euros who should’ve won that competition and went on to win the World Cup in style.
And of course that famous 7-0 win against Gibraltar!!!
In true half-glass empty form, I'm going to take that as both sarcasm, an insult and a threat. Thankfully I'll claim diplomatic immunity for any kneecappings.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
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Originally Posted by Fixer82
Really?
You can be a dick if your winning, but if your a dick and your losing then your in serious hot waterQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable. It was a bad expensive move by Nottm Forest to appoint the duo, this was flagged from the off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
And MON should have stood up for and supported Arter over and above the interests of bootboy Keane, those type of things matter a lot to a team.
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Perhaps not as much here as on The 42 and elsewhere. My real point was that I have great memories from O'Neill's era and I thank him and his team for that, as much as it fell apart in the last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Oh there was delight, it may have been invisible to the naked foot.ie eye, but it was there in abundance. I'm with Fixer though generally, despite the last year or so being a real low and MON being a major part of that. He still oversaw some of our best times, which don't come around very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.
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Before each game, Martin O’Neill would walk into the Aston Villa dressing room and stare intently at his matchday notes.
The players already knew what was coming and would start sniggering and laughing between themselves, hoping not to catch the manager’s eye. “Same team, same subs” O’Neill would say with conviction, removing any need for holding what was in his hand with those four words that become synonymous with that season.
“It became a running joke between the lads,” laughs Steve Sidwell when discussing with The Athletic the 2008-09 season where Villa missed out on the chance to rock the top order in the Premier League. “We were actually going to buy a racehorse, put on Villa’s colours and call it ‘same team same subs’.”
O’Neill, in the words of his former Villa colleagues, was a “creature of habit”. He had a core group of around 13 first-team favourites and felt there was no need to rotate a team when it was performing well and winning, which at Villa was the case for a large chunk of that particular season.
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Tactically, there wasn’t much attention to detail and training wasn’t always as high and intense as it would have been under other managers. Set-piece practice rarely existed and instead it was “let Martin Laursen jump up and win every header”. There wouldn’t be much game-to-game variation either, as Davies explains: “If there was a plan, it was our better players win us the game, we never had clear tactical guidance. It was: read the names from the team sheet, go out and win the game. Our only alternative was, instead of using all the players, give it to Ash (Young)!
Surprising the North are not looking at him. Sure Roy would be great up there if things went wrong with a gang of Loyalists out for....... ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by OMTY
Why???Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
For all the mocking, he was easily Villa's best manager of the last 10-15 years and, let's face it, ours too. It's not saying a lot, but it is saying something.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMTY
It’s certainly easy to mock. But it’s easier said than done to identify your best XI and get the best out of them on a consistent basis. Certainly it seems he doesn’t overanalyze the game — that’s clear.
But perhaps he’s enjoyed some success as a relative counterbalance to managers who get into what many would see as irrelevant minutiae. For some players it could be initially refreshing to not have the micromanagement that has become so dominant at the highest level.
He was a revelation to Celtic also when he took over.
Some pretty bitter comments here, regards Kenny and O'Neill's own departure: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023...-by-the-media/
Does he have a point? I don't know if he was treated differently to any manager before him, but I certainly agree that Kenny has gotten a very easy ride for a very long time.
The last year of MON was desperate stuff. And when senior players like Doherty said he didn't even take training it gave the impression he wasn't even that committed. I think he's a *****ly character who doesn't take criticism well. He should have a thicker skin imho.
I think O’Neill has a point but doesn’t come across well by making it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
There were periods where O’Neill had the team playing as more than the sum of its parts, but near the end, it definitely felt like time for a change.
I think Kenny has been given more time because there’s a widespread feeling this squad is incredibly weak/young. We needed a complete rebuild and I don’t think many managers in world football would have been able to bring us to qualification with these players.
As we approach the next campaign, some of these guys will be a year older, Evan Ferguson will hopefully continue to improve even further.
I’m sympathetic to Kenny in some ways and I admire his push to get this team to play possession football, but a fresh start is probably needed.
It's not a straight line to compare what each manager had and achieved but let's take one perspective on the the plaudits he receives for qual for Euro 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Before the 2016 Euros there have been 6 campaigns since 1988. With a similar 2016 qual criteria that MO'N had, we could have qualified direct some 4 times after finishing in the top 2 and in the other 2 campaigns we would've been in the reckoning for the playoffs after finishing 3rd, even Stan's Ireland finished 3rd.
Does he have a point? one of the world's highest paid managers along with highest paid side kick in the history of football, after a sh'ite last campaign, at a time when the FAI was just about to collapse? I'd have a lot of respect for MO'N but little time for his sarcasm, his lack of graciousness in this respect and his sense of entitlement. He should take a leaf out of Mick's book when it comes to certain aspects of character.
A random one here (if he goes ahead with it, that is), esp since he succeeded Howard Wilkinson as Chair of the (English) League Managers Association only last month, usually a position for someone whose management career has wound down:
"Former Ireland boss Martin O’Neill may be set for a return to management in Romania"
It’s been almost five years since the 72-year-old’s last job after he was sacked by Nottingham Forest, but it has now emerged that Romanian top-flight side Rapid Bucharest are reportedly working on bringing O’Neill in as their new boss.
It would be O’Neill’s first club job outside of the UK in his managerial career, with Fanatik reporting that the club are hoping to secure the Derryman’s signature after Cristiano Bergodi was sacked last month following a disastrous start to the play-off series. The club have two games remaining this month before the campaign ends.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...Ar1-XBOq2-0rsA
https://www.leaguemanagers.com/lates...e-as-new-chair
Look who else is in the running. Allegedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
"Neil Lennon could be set for a surprise return to management after entering into talks with Romanian club Rapid Bucharest."
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...31&date=100524
Shirley, Neil Lennon is far more realistic than Martin O'Neill ~ You'd think Martin O'Neill would be too savvy to take on such a risky proposition, for what I expect would Not be that great of money !Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
O'Neill is the guest on The Overlap this week
Martin O'Neill on Tommy Tiernan tonight
Anything to report?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Not much to be honest. Spent the majority of the interview talking about his playing career. Tommy was caught for words a few times during the interview, which is strange from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
I think Tommy was trying to get personal, as he does, and trying to get O’Neill to open up, but O’Neill wasn’t having any of it. The perfect example was when he asked him about crying, and O’Neill pivoted the question to talking about regrets in his playing career. There’s something about him that I can’t really take to.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I met O'Neill the other night and he said he really likes youQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Don't get me started on Tommy Tiernan - he can't hold the ball, he can't pass, he can't shoot, is useless in the air and worst of all he boasts about his lack of preparation!
A man that has chips all over the place will never go hungry !