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The Dutch aren't anything fantastic by any means but they will beat the winners of Costa Rica/Greece. That will give them a semi final against Argentina, 2 pretty average teams with some brilliant individuals. I fancy the Dutch to be able to hit Argentina on the break and catch them. So even though there arent amazing I think they will make final where anything can happen!
European TV I would imagine is the reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
I've no sympathy for Mexico even though I've loved their opening 3 games. They had no ambition at all after they scored and invited a response from an ordinary Dutch team that was struggling until the goal. They should have made the Dutch earn their way back into the game. The Dutch threatened from set pieces and had nearly equalised a couple of times. Had the Mexicans shown more moral courage I'd imagine they'd have seen it out comfortably enough.
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Originally Posted by Crosby87
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Originally Posted by Razors left peg
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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Amongst others. Penchant for speedballing does our Crosby.
I'm delighted the Dutch are through though I would have hoped they'd show more. They seemed to be really affected by the heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I still want to live in a world where Dirk Kuyt and Nigel De Jong have won a World Cup and Cruyff hasn't.
Are any of you married to a Dutch bloke? Ask if they call their country Holland or Netherlands. I always wanted to know that.
They call it both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
The country's official name is The Netherlands. People call it Holland as a large portion of it is taken up by the Counties North Holland and South Holland which is where the majority of the population live.
I asked one of the Dutch lads I know here who's from Breda and he says that Dutch people refer to it as Holland as well and it's not offensive or frowned upon etc.
Agreed, after they scored they did nothing. Dutch deserved it never gave up. Wasnt a peno in end but boy they deserved about 3 in that game overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Depends where you live though, lived there for a while and they didnt call it Holland at all, Netherlands all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Why so silly exactly? The football field is a place of work too. Sure, football is played within a distinct context in the sense that it is governed by its own sub-legal framework. The general social/legal rules governing physical contact are relaxed and apply somewhat differently for reasons of participant consent and due to what might be reasonably expected from competitors by virtue of their physical engagement, but the game certainly does not exist in a parallel universe and if "sporting" conduct was ever to be considered unreasonable or inappropriate enough, there's no reason to assume the law of the land (tort and criminal liability) wouldn't apply. I'm not saying the law of the land should necessarily apply here; just making the point that the realms of sport and external life aren't so separate and exclusive from one another so as to render comparisons completely silly. If even just to provide a bit of perspective and to get an idea of how societal legislators might view such conduct generally in order to help ascertain whether or not the sporting punishment might be appropriate, I don't really see the great harm in making such comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Not that I'm trying to excuse him, but you can see why he might deny it and sustain the charade. He's in a desperate situation and surrounded by back-slapping advisors clearly offering him frankly terrible advice. He's obviously deeply ashamed of what he's done and is trying to save face. You could tell by his body language after the final whistle went against Italy just how awfully regretful he was feeling deep down. He couldn't even bear to smile or celebrate his side getting out of the group. He was near tears of pain. I'd be reluctant to sum Suarez and the whole unfortunate episode up in half a tweet, but if Graham Hunter wants to do that, he's free to do so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Does it really matter what the average (and bitter) Brazilian fan thinks though? They can't dictate his nationality. To use a rough analogy, it might be like giving your average (and bitter) NI fan a say over James McClean's nationality. It's none of their business.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Which small countries have been suffering as a result of the residency clause?
They play them earlier to suit the European audience. That game started at 5PM here and the later one will kick off at 9PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
High-grade Mexican stuff, by the sound of it!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I think they generally refer to the football team as Holland, but referring to, say, Utrecht as being in Holland (rather than, correctly, the Netherlands) would be a Dutch faux-pas, no? Wouldn't it be like referring to Glasgow as being in England (rather than, correctly, the UK, for now...) or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Was talkin to a buddy of mine over the weekend and he was tellin me a story about a time he was in Amsterdam and got so baked he temporarily lost the use of his legs.... I get the feeling thats called a Tuesday for Crosby !Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
You don't expect a pedestrian to kick you while you're browsing in a bookshop, you do expect a kick when you're playing football though. I'm led to believe the issue is duty of care. I think Haaland might have been able to mount a case against Keane, just as that Airdrie guy got Drunken Ferguson jailed for assault but Keane was lucky.
Anyway, I missed the post match debate. Any doubts over the penalty? I think it was a kick, a foul and a dive all in one. I'm generally ok with players making sure a refs knows it's a foul but the sheer theatre of Robben's fall, especially given his previous form, irritates me.
What was the RTE panel verdict?
Hmm, McClean is Irish as we all know , ie. The GFA, CAS et al.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
If Costa has any discernible Spanish heritage (besides his surname), am not otherwise convinced...
Ireland!Quote:
Which small countries have been suffering as a result of the residency clause?
Albeit the cricket team!
Yes, different rules apply, but exactly the same principle. Not just for Ireland, but any country where people emigrate to.
Give it time.
It was a foul for me, mixed with simulation after the fact. Just "making sure" as they say. The question we should ask if it it would have been given if Robben hadn't flopped.
There was a tackle before the tackle that resulted in a penalty which was more of a foul. So I wouldn't be too harsh. He did overegg it though.
I also think I speak for all, Greece please go away.
It should be noted I'm fascinated by them as equally as I abhor them.
CR's final ball has been absent.
Can we please not start using flopped as a word to describe diving... The Americans do over here and it drives me mad!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Well... We are now at the half...Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Not all forms of physical contact can be reasonably expected within the confines of a sporting contest though, so there has to be some point at which the law of the land will overlap or intervene, if you will, upon the occurence of something deemed serious or inappropriate enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I thought Robben manufactured what was minimal contact, but for someone so experienced, Marquez was certainly careless to allow himself be exploited like that. It was the type of positioning and tackle you'd put down to naivety in a younger player. I'd have to put it down to tiredness in Marquez given the heat and time of game. The general consensus amongst Fabio, Hoddle and O'Neill on ITV was that Robben was theatrical in going down. Martin couldn't believe Marquez was so reckless and could see why the ref gave it but Fabio was adamant it wasn't a penalty. Fabio does have what you might describe as a very traditional view of what constitutes a fair tackle, so had Marquez taken Robben's leg off, he might still have been unmoved.
Did anyone else notice some Greece supporters in the crowd wearing what looked like Amstel-sponsored replica jerseys? Are they one of the few other nations to sell jerseys with a sponsorship logo on them?