Often Trap didn't even have Coleman in the squad !
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Often Trap didn't even have Coleman in the squad !
Did Coleman not have a poor season in the run up to Euro 2012? It was a long time ago now, I'm struggling to remember.
What I do remember is that the marginal call in the squad was about Kevin Foley, another right back, and that he missed out in the end. So clearly Coleman wasn't that close to selection.
Since that 2017 leg break he's missed 37 games for Ireland. 10 of those were for the leg break and he missed 7 games with his recent knee injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
That leg break reduced Séamas as a player and is probably a factor in some of the other injuries he has had since. He would have been our best player ( by a distance ) since then, had he not have had that terrible injury. It could even be said that he was still our best player, even despite that injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
That leg break was very bad for Séamus and for us.
This comes up from time to time , I wrote this a while ago about it: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog...96039860266728
Basically, Coleman hadn't done enough that season to justify a squad position for the euros, and even if he did go he'd have been third choice, at best, to play at right full behind O'Shea and Kelly
That 17 is far more than I thought. Didn’t think he’d have missed 10 in the year he was injured after Wales. Thanks for looking into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Change that to 18. Transfermarkt put a big ad on the bottom of the screen that was blocking out the New Zealand friendly in the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
What made you think it was a low figure of 10 though? Play around 10 games in a calendar year and wasn't he out for around a full year after the leg break and missed around 8 months with the knee injury.
I simply made a mistake. I’ll try and do better in future JR.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Coleman made his 360th Premier League appearance yesterday to move ahead of Rory Delap and up to seventh on the Irish all time EPL appearance list. If he plays every game Everton have left this season (unlikely at his age) he'd move ahead of Roy Keane into sixth.
Once he finishes at that level the top 10 won't change again for a long, long time as there is nobody else who is still playing who is anywhere near to it.
One of three players taken off at halftime last night with Everton already 4-0 down away to Chelsea. It does feel like his last Premier League season, but at least last night was far from being solely his fault.
Another two-point deduction for Everton last week as well which drops them back to within two points of the drop
Could see him move into a player coach role next season for Everton or retire to go into management. Don't think he'll do a Wes, Whelan, or McGoldrick by moving down the leagues to prolong his playing career.
i believe based on the interview dyche did afterwards that he went off with an injuryQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Maybe he just did a weird hop but almost looked like a hamstring issue late in the first half from what I saw.
He has been doing his coaching badges - so that is where he is headed. There is still a lot of fallout to happen at Everton - so it might not be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Injuries and age take a natural toll on someone's body, but Seamus looks after himself and loves to play. He absolutely has another season at the top in him if Everton stay up. Carlo Ancelotti described him as one of his best captains and that force of personality in a dressing room can sometimes be underestimated from the outside. He looked outstanding in Ireland's last two games. When the time does come to call it a day, I wonder would he be tempted with a LOI swansong? It's very much a young man's league though!
You do get the impression that he has the qualities that would make him a good managerQuote:
Originally Posted by Predator
Does he have a dark manipulative side ? !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
You mean he's willing to wait endlessly for a national association operating in stasis to offer him a contract after hundreds of others have been linked to the job by bookies, journos, de brudder-in-law's mate who knows a fella who...?
35 year old Coleman has come on for 38 year old Ashley Young for Everton tonight. Probably one of the oldest combinations of subs on and off in the history of the Premier League.
If McClean wants to see what a true professional player looks like, here it is.
Coleman remains one of the few older heads in the team that actually plays like a leader.
Did McClean make some comment I missed to provoke that?
He made his debut as a TV pundit the other night and made some critical comments about the Kenny years,Kenny supposed to replying after the Rovers game last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
A public spat is one way of the two of them keeping themselves relevant I suppose. Because neither of them have any relevance to the Irish team going forward. Which is for the best in both cases.
Made a show of himself on Instagram also that night. Broke out the stats pre and during Kenny which makes you wonder why he sat with the man and defended him convincingly ( or so it appeared at the time anyway ) in several pressers when they were both involved, if that was what he really thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Cheers. I had to make do with a stream with non-RTE commentary.Quote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2024/...y-coming-soon/
The story of Seamus Coleman – from unknown Irish youngster to bona fide Everton icon – is told in evertontv's new feature-length documentary, SEAMUS, which will be released on the Club’s official YouTube channel soon.
The documentary I mentioned has now been posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
https://youtu.be/YBDwyOks40o?si=U0q5qbCqmPi6y9Ci
The guy is an absolute rarity in the modern game. One of our best.
Back in first team training after his injury.
https://www.everton.news/55k-a-week-...-united-clash/
Got a run out off the bench today against Chelsea. His 366th EPL appearance brings him level with Roy Keane in sixth on the all time Irish Premier League list.
Had a decent game too. I keep fearing he will return from one of his injuries and look a shadow of himself and need to retire. He held up well there and that's not even considering his complete lack of game time since the beginning of the season.
Even given Man City’s poor form this season, that’s a tough match to parachute into. Probably partially at fault for the first goal but always tough when you’re one on one with Doku, and the poor marking from teammates in the middle is part of the story — even with that an element of fortune with the goal.
Him delaying the penalty, dragging things out and taking the yellow probably contributed to the poor pen/save so it’s give and take.
In the circumstances a very solid performance.
this contract is up in june - it feels unlikely he will renew but you never know i suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
if he does retire there will presumably be an ireland testimonial? or is there some minimum number of caps?
Hasn't been an Ireland testimonial in years and years I think?
Might get a cameo in the June home game but that's about it
Testimonials at that level are a thing of the past, unless the player himself wants to go all out to organise a charity one. Besides, in truth, is Coleman that much of an Irish football legend? 17th on the caps list, behind Jeff Hendrick, one major tournament finals and it wasn't a World Cup. He's an Everton legend for sure, but for Ireland he was mostly just a solid international pro.
Testimonials were a whiparound back in the days of wage caps. He's probably earned more this year than most of us will take home between now and when we retire.
I'm not sure the FAI can afford to devote a friendly's earnings to charity!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
His stock seems to have risen a lot in the last few years, during a period in which he's been injured a lot. Nice to see it anyway. Too many players seem to be three flat performances from being dismissed as a traitorous donkey.Quote:
Besides, in truth, is Coleman that much of an Irish football legend? 17th on the caps list, behind Jeff Hendrick, one major tournament finals and it wasn't a World Cup. He's an Everton legend for sure, but for Ireland he was mostly just a solid international pro.
I've seen this question being posed a few times in different forums (incl. the offline world). I think it depends on the context and what you place value in. Seamus Coleman's Ireland career isn't as accomplished as someone like Gary Kelly's, for example. Kelly was a quality player over a long period and featured in a number of tournaments, but he was also part of a team of players of similar and higher ability. Coleman, by contrast, was one of our best players during a relatively lean period, both in terms of tournament qualification and general level of the team, but the leg break really hurt him and us. You could argue that players like Jonny Walters, James McClean and Shane Duffy actually contributed more than Coleman - so don't they deserve recognition? - but what probably marks Coleman out is his character - he has been a very good captain and role model, something that should be celebrated. On balance, I'm glad to see someone like him receive such good will from the fans, but if you wanted to quantify his on-field influence, then Eirambler is probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
He broke is leg for his country, literally and he showed up for every game no matter what the impact was on his club career. In 20 years he'll probably be the only player that young people hear about from this era.
He doesn't have any 'legendary' highlight moments but his commitment and passion qualifies him in my opinion.
That said, the last 10 years have been the worst in Irish soccer since...well a long time...so I get why it's easy to dismiss