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I thought he was very quiet in the first half but began imposing himself in the second. He picks up awkward positions between the opposition's midfield and defence, so he tends to make space. With Zaha frequently occupying two men as well, I can see why Murray has found himself so often among the goals this season, as defenders would be getting dragged all over the place. Watford looked a shadow of the team that had been described as the most fluid and attacking in the division.
Headline sounds more kinky than it actually is:rolleyes:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/english/2013/0529/453379-palace-tie-down-irish-midfielder-garvan/
Had a good look through the Palace forums today. The vast majority were very positive about his 2 yr extension. He finished the season strongly and some reckon the premiership may well suit him better (cited the less frantic pace in comparison to the Championship). His lack of pace and inconsistency continue to be his main weaknesses. Furthermore, he had a bad knee injury this year which is concerning. Hopefully, with a good pre-season behind him, Owen will play a big part in Palace's year next season.
I wonder has Trap ever heard of him?
Seeing as how he played him in the B game against Nottingham Forest, he probably has, yeah
That's quality nerding.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I was at the game. Think Garvan was in the bench for one of the games in craven cottage tooQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Indeed he was, against Colombia. Was in Trap's first Irish squad, back in the day. http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/inter...31786-ireland/Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I was at it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I actually remember bugger all other than admiring just how decrepit Dalyer had become and that over there stood our manager, Giovanni Trapattoni.
Starts for Palace against Spurs today.
Call him up Trap!
Delaney also starts the game.
Is Paddy McCarthy injured?
McCarthy's been injured for over a year now. Some muscle injury that won't clear up.
Just read the match preview on BBC and it says he's " back in training but is not yet fit". Is he expected to make a return to action soon?
It seems he has fully recovered but he picked up a minor strain during the week.
edit: interesting that Garvan starts ahead of the hotly-tipped Jonathan Williams, who was playing for Wales on Wednesday night. Also great to see him finally make the step up to the Premier League after all the high hopes we had for him.
Garvan was replaced by Chamakh on 66 minutes.
Thought he did really well today, Garvan. Palace were playing pre historic football in the opening 20 minutes, but Garvan put his foot on the ball and made things happen. He really has a presence in midfield, albeit not the paciest player. But he looks extremely intelligent on the ball and turned the tide back towards the Spurs goal any time he got the ball. Got a real vote of confidence from both Peter Drury and Clive Allen on the broadcast I was watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I missed the start of the second half until he was substituted but he was quietly effective in the first half. Tottenham were a mess once Holloway changed the team's shape - they didn't look like they knew how to adapt their defensive system. Delaney did very well overall and could even have had a goal or two were it not for good blocks.
Have to say it was the first time, great seeing him in the Prem given how long he's been mooted.
Impressed with his comfort on the ball, and how much he demanded it. He is exceptionally slow though and was defensively caught out a couple of time when covering over at the far side in the first half (once in particularly let a through ball in for Lennon). But decent enough, hope he can keep his place.
Just hummed a ding deep into stoppage time for Crystal Palace but it's still too late as Bristol City prevail.
Cracker of a goal too. Seen it on sky sports news there.
The play for Garvan's goal begins around 7:15Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF86JYSRC8w
Garvan isn't in the Palace squad at all today for their home fixture against Sunderland. Has he picked up an injury?
Delaney has started in the centre of the Palace defence, whilst O'Shea and Westwood feature in the Sunderland rear-guard.
Don't think he is injured. He may well be on his way to Bolton to link up again with Dougie Freedman
Left out of 25 man premier squad
prompting this on twitter
http://s1.thejournal.ie/media/2013/0...an-630x256.png
I assume he's referring to Ian Holloway there? Was there a falling out or does Holloway simply not rate him? He started Palace's opening game of the season, so it all seems odd.
It's quite incredible that Holloway has been so quick to dispose of someone like Garvan who really contributed to the promotion success. The players he's decided to replace him with are of very, very dubious quality. Garvan is probably hoping he can get himself a loan and some regular playing time before coming back and trying to impress a new manager.
Had a quick look at their Wiki page and it appears new signings Stephen Dobbie and Florian Marange are also down in the reserve list. A very bad case of squad planning by Holloway then. As I read somewhere, he's taking the approach of throwing enough sh*t at a wall and hopping enough sticks.
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Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Kind of brave words to say about your manager!!
However as he signed a 2 year contract at the end of May maybe not, but it is one of the problems
with having a twitter account, I don't think you can unpost what you have already posted.
He later posted this.
[utube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m0dJXtwwiY&feature=youtu.be[/utube]
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Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Kind of brave words to say about your manager!!
However as he signed a 2 year contract at the end of May maybe not, but it is one of the problems with having a twitter account, I don't think you can unpost what you have already posted.
He later posted this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m0dJXtwwiY
Might be worth remembering the opening line to the song "And now the end is near....".
Absolute disaster for the poor guy. Twitter really only serves to self destruct but I can understand his frustration. He's been waiting a long time to make it to this level and then to be cut having scored a cracker only a few days earlier, on top of a fairly impressive performance against Spurs. What was Holloway's thinking or did they have a falling out?
I wonder if our rarely seen Palace fan, Fitzy, has any inside information?
Edit: I just see it mentioned here in The Croydon Advertiser. Seems he wasn't happy with not playing every week... not sure that makes a huge amount of sense as he started nearly all the remaining games last season after returning from injury. He only came on with a half hour remaining against Stoke alright but he hardly threw his toys out of the pram over that, surely? If he was sick of being substituted it would make slightly more sense.
Holloway says he was left out due to 'attitude issues'.
Well, strictly speaking, no. He says he'll be longer (true) and then Holloway will (false if the reports are true).
I don't get you, unless you're making reference to the fact that he should have typed "than" instead of "then"?
That's exactly what smartypants is doing.
looks like Holloway is out the door
- Martin O Neill to replace?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24643421
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Originally Posted by back of the net
Not a great surprise, but I thought he would stay for the Arsenal game.
Watched this video yesterday and felt a bit sorry for him, he as much as admits he may have got his squad selection wrong.
However I am not sure if I understand why he has to stick with that squad, I thought you could play who ever you liked, apparently not.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/foo...ess-conference
Looks like the video is unavailable now, but he did seem a bit down but big enough, to his credit, to admit he may have got things wrong.
Had a look at Owen's twitter account but he has not posted anything yet, would not advise him posting anything undiplomatic.
As I understand he he still can't play for Palace until January?
I guess he can pass the time working as a clairvoyant, maybe he could post up his prediction for the next Euromillions lottery?
What did he say about his squad selection?I don't think the video is available outside the UK.
Garvan can't play in the league until January, but he would have been able to play in the cup if they'd not been knocked out.
Strictly speaking, why's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Surely to do with the Transfer window reopening?
He's not on the squad list for this season and that can't be amended until January. The new manager would have to apply to have him included from January on.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir