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I know you not defending him by the way, i just disagree with the part where he is treating all mangers the same.

He went too far. Its too early for that type of rant and it wasnt warranted. The team and trap deserved some critisism but a full blown rant. And then tries to justify it by saying mick and steve got that type rant also. Yeah they did, when we lost 5-2 to cyprus or nearly draw with san marino and only after there had been some terrible results even before these games. In my opinion he isnt treating trap like he did the others he is getting more frustrated earlier because he banged on about trap and is now afraid he wont live up to the hype dunphy wrote about him. I also think because he never liked mick or staunton as ireland manager he didnt expect much from them. He expects more from trap thus gets more angry quicker.

Just my opinion thats all

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

Dunphy is great, and I mean GREAT entertainment, he is a national treasure! The English have Shearer, Lineker and Hansen; lame and boring but we've got Giles & Dunphy, fantastic entertainment. Love it, I can't get enough!!! :D:D

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Yes, great entertainment, but how on earth did we get to the position where Dunphy is now the Kingmaker and Kingbreaker? The man has opinions, which he presents as fact and has used his media position to get rid of the last three Ireland managers.
In his book "Only a Game" he expressed mistrust of journalists for developing theories and then looking for facts to back the theories up, rather than the other way around. What was it Joe Strummer said about nuns and churches?
Dunphy's problem is that he often has a valid point but he exaggerates its importance to such an extent that it becomes ridiculous. I believe the Gibson rant was more a reaction to people laughing at his softly-softly approach to Trap.

As for Giles being great entertainment? God, the man is pomposity personified.

The man's opinion is worthless for me , I can't believe his views still carry any credence

Surely his little rant at Trap has finally opened up the last remaining eyes of people thinking he's a legitimate journo with a voice worth of listening; the man's a pillock of the highest order.

The man is an idiot,when CFR Cluj played Chelsea he said all the "CFR Cluj players were mercenaries":eek:to say something like this against Chelsea of all teams:o.

He showed last night how much of a muppet he has become. Before the game he was bad mouting Berbatov non stop. Said before the game that he wuld have a little segment at the end of the game showing all bad elements of his game. Ater Berbatovs two games Dunphy, unsurprisingly, never mentioned the segment he was meant to show at the end of the game

complete idiot - why is there a thread been even dedicated to the clown

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

What Qwerty said is dead right, the first thing people from other countries say about the Irish punditry is how honest and entertaining it is. There's no holding back, no rehearsed lines or yes men being overly positive. Dunphy is harsh and a perfectionist but harsh he is he's rarely incorrect. People who do an "ok" job get slated for not being very good which might be unfair but he strives for perfection. I mean you'll never hear him criticising Messi, Pirlo, Lippi or the few others at the top of the game.

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He's very rarely wrong? He's said Bojan was a poor player (I haven't seen that much of him but he's only just turned 18 ffs) as well as others, amongst them Anderson and Mascherano. He also said that Ireland are a better team than Inter Milan. If that's true then I'm Mary Poppins.

Moving to world football now that the topic has become more general.

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

What Qwerty said is dead right, the first thing people from other countries say about the Irish punditry is how honest and entertaining it is. There's no holding back, no rehearsed lines or yes men being overly positive.

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To be a pundit, you don't have to be clever to be good. Few people watching play the game. Just voiceover the highlights, and close the programme.

If people want to do detailed analysis, they can do it themselves without having to waste taxpayers money for the priviledge. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by mypost

If people want to do detailed analysis, they can do it themselves without having to waste taxpayers money for the priviledge. :rolleyes:

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Yes there's plenty of other things that the Govt. can waste taxpayers money on.

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

What Qwerty said is dead right, the first thing people from other countries say about the Irish punditry is how honest and entertaining it is. There's no holding back, no rehearsed lines or yes men being overly positive. Dunphy is harsh and a perfectionist but harsh he is he's rarely incorrect. People who do an "ok" job get slated for not being very good which might be unfair but he strives for perfection. I mean you'll never hear him criticising Messi, Pirlo, Lippi or the few others at the top of the game.

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sorry have to disagree was a certain ronaldo not at the top of his game for man utd last year and dunphy still slaughterd him and alex ferguson ( love him or hate him ) and his achievements over the last 20 years has been know to get a bit of dunphys abuse also :ball:

Have just ruined it by replying but when I scolled down the front page of foot here it said : Dunphy - old git. Sums things up I would say! :D

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Have just ruined it by replying but when I scolled down the front page of foot here it said : Dunphy - old git. Sums things up I would say! :D

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would be better as grumpy old git :D:D

Robbie Keane got the forked tongue of Ugly Grumpy last night, but with justification over that disgraceful miss.

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Speaking of "pundits", what has happened to Jim Beglin these days? You couldn't switch on a game without him co-commentating a few years back.

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think he is still on utv every so ofton.. :ball:

He is still with RTE. Was commenting on the recent Ireland games

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

Robbie Keane got the forked tongue of Ugly Grumpy last night, but with justification over that disgraceful miss.

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I still think Dunphy over-did his criticism with the crap about if he was the manager he'd have taken Keane off at half-time because of that miss.

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

He is still with RTE. Was commenting on the recent Ireland games

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Yep. He was on our flight from Manchester on the Weds afternoon of the game, along with Dennis Irwin. Whelan (Ronnie not Glenn!) was also on the flight as it happens, I presume they were all doing tv/radio work

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Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa

If you can call it that.. The man makes me cringe.

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Have to agree with that.
Maybe we should just make this the pundits we dislike thread. Pat Dolan? Roddy Collins?

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Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa

If you can call it that.. The man makes me cringe.

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Likewise - I think he is def the worst out there

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

Dunphy is harsh and a perfectionist but harsh he is he's rarely incorrect.

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Biggest joke of the year that statement! Yet again he came out with the ott statement at the beginning of the programme: "The Atletico defence is rubbish". Of course the opposite happens and Perea in particular at the heart of the defence has a stormer. But of course Dunphy is "rarely incorrect". Just like he said the Spanish manager was a "buffoon". He then goes on to win the European Championship but of course Dunphy is "rarely incorrect".

Ah come one now owls, wasn't he described as a "student of the spanish game" only two weeks ago by Bill. He obviously knows his stuff;)

In fairness to him I'd forgive him for thinking the defence is crap.
6-1 by Barca and then they were terrible against Villareal where they shipped 4 in. Anyone would be forgive for holding that opinion particularly anyone who watches Spanish Football.

They've conceded less goals than any of the other teams in the group (3 from 4 games).

Yes but Dunphy is talking about having watched them in the spanish league.

I used to think Dunphy was a good laugh and made a bit of sense but over the last few yrs he's just become too predictable and is trying too hard to be sensational, just a few things.

His constant slating of Ronaldo, before the Roma game was an obvious one but saying he was a disgrace in the Parkhead game when he actually had a decent game!

Wanting Andy Reid in the Ireland team, when he finally gets a manager he approved he has to find fault in him, by chartering a player who cant get into the Sunderland team latelly!

Calling John O'Shea world class recently when last yr he didnt rate him at all.

His latest slating of Berbatov.

I actually didnt bother to listen to him before, after or at HT last night.
Just the same old predicatable whining, RTÉ might want to consider freshening things up there.

Dunphy only pretends to watch Spanish soccer. It's so obvious. I remember a couple of yrs back he was talking about Valencia being a quality side as and he named Baraja and Aimar as being their key players. These 2 guys were indeed household names as they were outstanding when helping Valencia to successive Champions League Finals. Everybody had heard of them at that stage but by the time Dunphy was calling them key players both had been suffering from various injuries and Baraja had only played 12 or 13 games the previous season. He was going on about Seville in the same way last season and when it came to naming players he would only mention the Spurs reject Kanoute and read a couple more from his list. He said they were an outstanding side and were among his favs to win it, being far superior to Real and Barca who were allegedly a shambles (although both clubs had finished 5 points ahead of Seville in La Liga). Lets face it the only chance we get to see the like of Seville and Valencia is when they are involved in a Champs Lge game against an English team or a Spanish match against Barca or Real on Sky. By the way will anybody ever forget his big U-turn in the Star earlier this year when he said "I was totally wrong about Ronaldo", what an idiot!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Splurge

His constant slating of Ronaldo, before the Roma game was an obvious one but saying he was a disgrace in the Parkhead game when he actually had a decent game!

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Off topic slight but really?

I havent seen the game again on tv yet but at the match last night I thought Ronaldo was v average for Man U apart from maybe the last 20minutes when he came in to it more.

Lots of hand waving, lucky not to get a yellow/red for a kick out, plenty of wayward shots. Admittedly it was his effort that created Utds equaliser but at the time I thought he looked pretty average.

Maybe Im wrong.

I felt he was spot on about Ronaldo and Beckham last night..............they get the glory while everyone else does the work.

Every team has luxury type players, fair enough some work harder than others. There's many bad points about Ronaldo and he'd seriously want to grow up. Of course he could look at Rooney and learn from him but that'll never happen. I'm a huge Giles fan and enjoy Dunphy for entertainment purposes only. The guy hasn't a clue and says what will cause the most stir, it's fine saying Ronaldo should cop on and he's petulant and all the rest of it but surely his contribution on the pitch should be commended as well, 42 goals in a season is ridiculous, if u seen it on a computer game ud say tis unrealistic!!! and anti United fans couldn't even say he didn't do it against the big teams as he scored against Chelsea, Arsenal and da Pool last season.

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Originally Posted by Rambling Along

I felt he was spot on about Ronaldo and Beckham last night..............they get the glory while everyone else does the work.

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He wants to have a pop at Ronaldo as being an "ego self-centred clown" (Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile), fair enough. But we hear the same thing after EVERY Man U game with Laughing Bill throwing in some comment like "Bobby Charlton says Ronaldo is the greatest player since time immemorial. Discuss..". Big long discussion about Ronaldo (I assume as I turned over to Pat Dolan towering over Andy Townsend on Setanta as I couldn't listen to it anymore - they looked Like Little and Large - is Dolan really THAT huge?) and not much discussion about the game. Charlton, McCarthy, Kerr, Staunton, Trappatoni, Ronaldo, Beckam - people Dunphy wouldn't be fit to ties their laces but personal attacks all the time. He's made a living out of it. Nothing has changed.

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Originally Posted by Rambling Along

I felt he was spot on about Ronaldo and Beckham last night..............they get the glory while everyone else does the work.

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yep unfortunatly thats the way it goes with all clubs ... not just man utd.. usually pick out the flair players / goalscorers and forget about the rest of team... in fairness ronaldo last year with all his goals probally had a big say in utd winning league title . :ball:

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Originally Posted by Rambling Along

I felt he was spot on about Ronaldo and Beckham last night..............they get the glory while everyone else does the work.

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ronaldo the team -player see it's not my fault :D

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Originally Posted by Rambling Along

I felt he was spot on about Ronaldo and Beckham last night..............they get the glory while everyone else does the work.

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To be fair to Beckham he always struck me as a hardworking player and a model professional certainly a role model like "Padraig Harrington and Ruby Walsh" that old chestnut Dunphy comes out with

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Originally Posted by gustavo

To be fair to Beckham he always struck me as a hardworking player and a model professional certainly a role model like "Padraig Harrington and Ruby Walsh" that old chestnut Dunphy comes out with

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he has a new addation to list now lewis hamilton.. !! great champion only scrapped his first world title and now eamon has him up amongst the greats of the sports world. :D

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Originally Posted by gustavo

To be fair to Beckham he always struck me as a hardworking player and a model professional certainly a role model like "Padraig Harrington and Ruby Walsh" that old chestnut Dunphy comes out with

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Ruby is more of a prima dona than Ronaldo, he throws the toys out everytime a race goes against him.

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

(is Dolan really THAT huge?)

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Yep, he has a special seat in the youths dugout for his big round arse! No messing.

Ronaldo did ok in the celtic game, was probably Utd's best attacking option and Dunphy calls him a "disgrace". Did George Best never have a below par game? Dunphy's a clown im afraid, i only watch fleetingly at best nowadays, when he starts on his tiresome tirades i change channel until KO.

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Originally Posted by Splurge

Yep, he has a special seat in the youths dugout for his big round arse! No messing.

Ronaldo did ok in the celtic game, was probably Utd's best attacking option and Dunphy calls him a "disgrace". Did George Best never have a below par game? Dunphy's a clown im afraid, i only watch fleetingly at best nowadays, when he starts on his tiresome tirades i change channel until KO.

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dunphy's a clown alright but will agree with him and giles no way is ronaldo in the same class as george best.. even on bests bad days he worked back / tackled and covered full backs ..:ball:

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Originally Posted by old git

even on Best's bad days he worked back / tackled and covered full backs ..:ball:

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You remember that, do you? God bless your memory ;) I suspect if Ferguson want Ronaldo to track back, he would.

Didn't get to see Giles (who had written off Arsenal after the Stoke game) comments after the Gunners beat Man U.