Defo, McGoldrick will play No. 10 for us anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
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Defo, McGoldrick will play No. 10 for us anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Yet another goal for McGoldrick today: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47010995 - he's surely got to be in the squad in March at this point - question is now, should he start?
Yes. At 10. Im not sure anyone else can do that role properly ( Dan crowley can do it too )Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
I would think at this stage McGoldrick has to be in the squad and also start against Gibraltar. Would love to see Crowley brought in also - he appears to be one of the only creative players available to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Beyond that, I wonder what Mick's first team talk will be like. Will it be (a) "up and at em lads, hit the ball long to big Goldie (McGoldrick) and pick up the pieces from there" (b) "we need to keep the ball on the ground and maintain possession and win it back at all costs if we lost it. Possession football will keep us in good stead for this campaign" or (c) "I don't care what way you play lads, just get the win"
Instead of players playing to a manager's philosophy, shouldn't the gameplan be built around the player's strengths? For us right now those would include:Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
- Pace up front: Our main options up front right now (Long, Obafemi, McGoldrick and Robinson) are all quick and we have speed elsewhere from Coleman, McClean and Christie
- Aerial Power from set-pieces - Duffy, Clark, Long, Doherty, Egan, Lenihan and Keogh have seventeen goals between them this season and have the aerial prowess to cause chaos from attacking corners and free-kicks. Also, McGoldrick at 6'1" and Long at 5'11" are tall enough to win some battles in the air if we go that route, in part.
- Sweet left feet - O'Dowda and Brady
- Goalscoring midfielders - Brady, Browne, McClean, Hourihane and recently O'Dowda
- Some wing trickery - McGeady
- If Jon Walters recovers successfully and still has something left in the tank, it gives us a more physical option up front
- And, of course, hard work, passion and a never-say-die attitude, whatever the formation and game-plan - every player who pulls on the green shirt
In fairness to MON, is is important to have a solid defensive base and after the Wales debacle we seemed to have some success developing that, conceding only twice in five games and shutting out or Danish tormentors of 2017 for 180 minutes. The question is how well will Mick use the attacking attributes of the players above to build on that and ensure victories.
Can agree with some of that but not all. Jon Walters - not a hope. Jon served us very very well. But he was losing pace in the last few games and is long past it now. Aerial ability is ok. But make sure it is from corners and set pieces. Aerial ability as in deploying a big man up front is all wrong. We need to forget that type of game. The time is now to change - play it to feet up front, hold the ball up and introduce others into the game. Let the long ball game to the big man be placed where it belongs - in the rearview mirror.Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Shane Long - I can't see him ever hitting the heights again. Almost a year without a goal has affected his game miserably. Perhaps a place on the bench, perhaps not
I know Jon Walters is a long shot and debated including him as an option - and certainly I've heard that his powers have been fading over the last few internationals. But I wouldn't entirely rule out the possibility of him having an impact and here's why: I read an interview with him a while back and the impression I got of him as a person is of a serious man who always is seeking to better himself. And this can be seen in his career - he probably has the natural talent of a middling Championship striker but due to his hard work, ambition and ability to harness his talents better than others he got into the Premier League at the age of 27 and played seven seasons there as well as scoring fourteen international goals past the age of 28. Plus he almost scored against the US last year with a snapshot from outside the box. So I can envisage a situation where he takes this time off injured as an opportunity to rest and recharge his batteries so that he can come back still with something to offer club and country for a little while longer. So even though I know that time might have caught up with him, I wouldn't rule him out, even if that simply means him coming on for twenty minutes to give us some physicality as we cling on to a single goal lead in Tbilisi.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
As for Long, he has gone through a horrific dry patch, but after his recent goal, he was very unlucky not to get at least one more in the next game, forcing a brilliant save and having a great header cleared off the line. At the same time, I will note that instead of focusing on strikers who "make defenders run around a lot" or "hold the ball up well" or "offer us a big target for long balls", perhaps we should look for strikers who are scoring goals i.e. McGoldrick and Robinson
Wrap him up in bubble-wrap for the next ten days: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47450251
https://astonvilla.vitalfootball.co....n-loan-update/
Less good news given that he came on around half time for Scott Hogan and no report of an injury in the attached.
https://www.the42.ie/david-mcgoldric...49043-Mar2019/ good interview. Nice to see him taking responsibility for his lack of international minuted
Scored the winner today. Sheff United now in second, 1 point ahead of leeds with 6 games remaining. From an Irish perspective, it would be fantastic if they get promoted with Egan, Stevens and McGoldrick regular starters, and Hogan a squad player
Just scored
Ended up with a brace, Stevens got the other, John Egan returned and Scott Hogan played 70 minutes. One more win and they're effectively up. I would really love to see McGoldrick get off the mark for us in the Summer, even if it's just a goal against Gibraltar: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47930320Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
McGoldrick won Sheffield United's player of the year award while Egan led the promotion celebrations - https://www.the42.ie/irish-joy-sheff...10712-Apr2019/
Just can't seem to buy a Premier League goal - after his VAR-disallowed effort a couple of weeks ago, he powers a header that 99 times out of 100 ripples the net, but De Gea sticks out a paw to keep it out brilliantly - terrific decoy run to clear a path for Mousset's goal. Robinson also came on and got the assist for McBurnie's equaliser
Good piece on McGoldrick. It simultaneously shows why he will simply never be an effective goalscorer for us and yet why he has to be in the team.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...k-cutting-edge
For me, to get the most out of him, you’d probably need really really pacy wingers on either side, guys who can get in behind and exploit the space he creates and make runs that he has the ability to feed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
You could play Connolly on the left and Robinson on the right, or even shoehorn Shane Long wide right at a bit of a stretch or at a further stretch, Obafemi or Maguire...
O’Dowda also probably has the pace to get in behind but isn’t necessarily as attack minded as the rest...
He needs someone closer to him than just wide attackers ie he needs a partner to be most effective for us.
Really if we just played 4-4-2 with the understanding it would at times be a 4-4-1-1 as McGoldrick dropped deeper, that would suit us without overcomplicating things.
Sheffield United’s system is compelling but I have serious doubts about getting an international team on board with the intricacies over the span of an international break.
Agreed a 442/4411 with Connolly currently looks the best bet would also like to see a McGoldrick/Long combination in a similar shape.
Let's see how Idah and obafemi get on as well. Unlike troy they will get game time over the next few monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
Extended contract for McGoldrick at Sheffield United: https://www.sufc.co.uk/news/2020/jun...drick-commits/
David McGoldrick breaks duck with brace as Blades bash Chelsea [rte]
I don't know if a video like this will stay up long, but here's the highlights
Wilder on McGoldrick:
Source: [football365]Quote:
“To play centre-forward for Sheffield United you have to have some ability and to come through this season without goals… but what people think about him and what the fans think – that shows you what he is all about.
“He deserves every reward tonight because it’s been a difficult period so to get two goals tonight we’re delighted for him.”
Has been the subject of racist abuse I believe. Just read a headline so no more info as of yet
Details here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
https://www.football365.com/news/she...vid-mcgoldrick
"It comes a day after West Midlands Police arrested a 12-year-old boy in relation to racist abuse sent to Crystal Palace forward Wilfried Zaha on social media." I am a bit aghast at this. Partly at the neck on the little **** to be sending racist abuse, and partly on the idea that 12 year olds are being arrested for what they say online.
James McClean's two cents.
For what it's worth he definitely is a confrontational character that has made some silly mistakes but I do think he's bang on.
Some may say the timing is wrong but I think it's right.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/com...cist_messages/
A little tangent on that but you could draw a comprison between Colin Kapernick and McClean in that they both adopted an "unconventional" pose in response to national anthems. It earned Kapernick a shed load of abuse but lost him his NFL career. It earned McClean a shed load of abuse too but he has maintained a career and, whilst maybe clubs have steered clear of him as a result of it, it hasn't impacted his club career significantly. He has played at his level since he began receiving attention for his bowed head and lack of a poppy.
Now, Kapernick may have his career rejuvenated by this. There is definitely a tide of broader support with him at present and it has taken the surge in the BLM movement for him to gain this.
I don't ever see the abuse McClean suffers subsiding but there may come a time when the whispers and murmurs of reason amongst the media in England become louder and more widespread. Like Kapernick, though, it may take an extreme event for this to occur and I don't want to imagine what form that extreme event could come in. A United Ireland perhaps is the only thing coming to mind that I would see as being an extreme event and a positive one too.
If James Blacked Up that would certainly Bring Some Attention. He is the Wrong Colour and Irish = Not the Correct Credentials ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Kaepernick has signed some new contract with a broadcaster / or someone worth absolute Millions. His football days are over , probably because he was not good enough especially after not playing / not been good enough for a couple of years now ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Kaepernick had no history of activism in College / anywhere until he got “ benched ‘ for a White Man ! ! !
Initially I would have thought there was a difference of context between the abuses
David is getting it because of skin colour alone. James is getting it primarily because of an ideological stance in regards to the sacred poppy cow.
James being Irish was an addendum, an add on.
But when it is added on, it becomes racist abuse, the same racism.
Once Mcclean put on the balaclava "teaching his kids history " he lost any sympathy I had for him. The man is a moron.
Whether he has your sympathy or not is beside the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
The sectarian and racial abuse he gets week in, week out is completely unacceptable.
And neither the FA nor English media have taken a strong stand against it.
Because he didn't tow the imperialist line and wear the poppy he is abused at every game.
Because he actually stood up for his beliefs and has a political conscience, unlike most footballers.
A weaker character would have folded by now.
And the balaclava incident? Any comment on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
It was really stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
But it's beside the point. It doesn't justify the abuse he gets.
Nothing justifies abuse, but my sympathy for his abuse eroded when he did that. I would love to know why in the name of jesus does he have a balaclava in his gaff
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8518369/James-McClean-hits-lack-support-Wilfried-Zaha-David-McGoldrick-racist-abuse.html
I don’t have access to the comments but you can bet your bottom dollar they are horrible ! !
Disgusted by the abuse received by McGoldrick, but delighted that he finally broke his Premier League duck after ensuring that he also has at least one international goal to his name (hopefully half a dozen more before he retires!) - there's no other player I'd be happier to get a three-yard tap-in!
I'm not sure it's completely beside the point. The abuse it wrong of course and it has often been swept under the carpet compared to other incidents, but the outpouring of support is obviously going to diminish for an attention seeker who clearly thrives on winding people up. And anyway, the more recent McClean incidents have been reported in the British media and he's been backed by both his clubs and the PFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
It is completly besides the point when it comes to racist ethnic abuse.
The usual misdirections used to explain the abuse directed against players like McClean /Neil Lennon, 'he goes out of his way to wind us up', 'he's not likable' 'we don't abuse other irish players therefore it's McClean's/Lennon's fault', 'he doesn't help himself, he's just an attention seeker', are all completly besides the point.
After years of obvious and blatant ugly ethnic abuse directed against McClean in football stadiums, finally in 2020 some action of support was taken by football clubs and the PFA, after pressure from 'kick it out' and McClean himself, that the abuse against a person of irish ethnicity was just as serious as other racist abuse such as was directed against McGoldrick. Throw a banana at a black player, the offender is banned for life, abuse McClean and it's okay - he's uppity irish.
One thing is missing from McClean's perspective is that it has taken many more decades for the FA to take on board even the more blatant incidents of racist abuse. One does not have to go back very far when the FA were pathetic in response to the very public racist abuse, eg monkey chants, from hundreds of supporters such as was regularily directed at Mido in the north of England in 2007.
McClean was getting abuse for years before he started fighting back and "winding people up"