Uefa picked it out on their official twitter also
Troy also managed to win Player of the round for round 9 and must be odds on for round 10 at this stage also but vote not open yet.
Football is popular
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2025...-magic-moment/
Damien Delaney says Festy's presence on the pitch pushes teams like Hungary back because no full bcak wants to be exposed to him getting in behind. Not sure if the video footage backs this up but it makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Day 2 of watching that RTE Sport 4 minute tweet on loop at work is well underway. I watch it 5 times then switch to TO'D's interview with Parrott, then start again.
Isn't Troy Parrott just immenseley likeable? All these lads are really.
As many others have said, this was huge. Yeah, it's only a playoff secured but it's about moments and man this was one of the finest. A whole nation was energised by it and the BIG are front and centre of the public's affections again.
I don't post on Reddit very often, but when I do...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AccidentalR...e/s/GqyaQW3UyC
What was Collins thinking for their second goal by the way? Legitimate question. Like, there must be something in his brain, some footballing reason i'm unaware of, that said stepping off Varga was the right thing to do but I am not sure what that was. Molumby was tracking/jogging in that general direction, did he think that Molumby would get there and he could slip back and defend a pass or something? I couldn't believe what i was seeing in real time.
His attempt to win a free in the second half when they broke and Sallai stung the palms of Kelleher - he dithered going for the ball, got beat, got himself clipped and decided to take a dive and leave just Scales there to try and block Sallai...criminal.
Don't want to sh*t on anyone unnecessarily after that result but there are some major question marks around his decision making. Its not captain stuff. Not close.
That's another spectacular image. Can you copy it in here? Doesn't seem to work with the reddit url and the (img) tagsQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Was he leaving it for O'Shea to close down? It looks like they both might have left Varge to each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Only thing I can think of anyway. Aside from "Ah sure he's never going to take it down on his chest, turn and volley into the very top corner from there; be grand lads"
Could well be a contender for one of the best goals ever scored against us.
General consensus is that he thought O'Shea was going to close him down as he had started to move but then pulled back.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Regardless it's the main thing they both need to unlock as it's happened once or twice in every game
It was a beauty alright but if he is close to him it just doesnt happen...and then the game takes a different arc...and we never get the 96th minute... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Every f'ing site on the internet wants to keep you inside their walled garden.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
https://ibb.co/N69R4tYyphttps://i.ibb.co/bgstfQdK/the-venera...e2r6vu1g1.webp
Without Jesus dying on the cross for us, there is no redemption :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
It’s totally fair comment and an ongoing concern. Collins is one of our most frustrating players. Physically has all the attributes to be one of our best all time centre backs — but mentally seems to make the wrong decision way too often — and often in key moments.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I feel on the flip side his pace and strength often neutralize opposing attacks so casually a lot of the good he does goes unnoticed (like a ‘keeper who rarely makes impressive saves because they’re always in the right position).
I appreciate every player is different but at 24 I do wonder if giving him the captaincy was the right move. I appreciate he’s a captain at club level for Brentford I just share some of your concerns SKSTU.
So the official non-analysing grace period is over? Ok then, here goes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
This game was bonkers. I don't buy the Didi Hamann synopsis that Hungary deserved to win - this was an old-fashioned to-and-fro match, they had periods on top, we had periods on top. All the goals very frustrating from a defensive perspective, two goals (one for each) gorgeous from an aesthetic perspective.
From the outset, with a neutral hat on.... how bloody good was Szobozolai? It was Roy Keane-esque and whatever about the intention of his nose-raspberry, he has every right to be disappointed. the part I can't comprehend is that he didn't unleash one with the last kick of the game instead of floating in a cross! It was within his range. I thought Sallai (#20 with the shaven part in the hair?) was impressive too, as was Negro.
We were incredibly open at times - too open, but given the circumstances that was understandable, and thankfully the channels that were exploited were the outside-centre/inside-flank channels, rather than between the 6-yd box lane channels - meaning the shots were angled to an extent that Kelleher would be expected to save, even allowing for them being very good saves.
I thought Molumby got on a lovely amount of ball - but I'd have to check it again on the player - demanding the ball more regularly and as a consequence freeing Cullen up for a lot more space - particularly as the first half wore on.
The substitutions all worked, and were all perfectly timed. That's not to say all the substitutes were good - they weren't (looking at you Festy, for the 2nd time in 2 matches) - but they had the effect of introducing some chaos to the game which ultimately worked in our favour.
We ended up - If I recall correctly - something akin to the below:
-- O'Shea, Collins, Scales --
Festy ---- Taylor --- Azaz -- Manning
----- Parrott -- Idah --- Kenny
1. Manning - excellent when he came on and has clearly grown into his role in the squad. His set-pieces are so accurate it's incredible.
2. Azaz - Not a substitute, but a repositioning following a substitute. Thought he was poor enough at times on Thurs and thought he was underwhelming at times on Sunday too...until he moved back into cm. And not just because of the pass for the equaliser, his general play and his vision was something to witness, dunno if that's because we generally don't have that thrust from the central deeper lying positions, but it's something that has to be considered for March. Also it is clear the management love him - they've mentioned quietly this window how they see him being central to us. And that faith was rewarded in spades.
3. The attacking substitutions. Ok, so Cheo was enforced (sadly and that was going to be a goalscoring chance) but the trio of attacking changes weren't just ballsy, they were measured, thought out and it maximised the qualities not only of those coming in, but those remaining on the field. Really in terms of game management, hats off to the management team/Heimar, because it never once became kitchen-sink time, it was skillful and we could have scored more than we did. The greatest compliment one could pay, is that for a squad which we have wondered what options there were, all of the changes worked, played their part and didn't look out of their comfort zone.
What's more of a consideration going forward - and this isn't casting any aspersions on any player or coach - is would these two games have unfolded had Evan been fit for selection? Would Parrott have played? Would we have played in the way we did? I'm not so sure. and they are going to have to think about how they are going to approach the playoff match from a selection perspective if all are fit, because Parrott has to start.
Oi, Masterson, sort it fugging out!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
In recent context, in that split second decision, Johnny made the right decision ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Should Collins be in the team at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Even with a back 5 there's a strong case to be made that the 5 should be Coleman, O'Brien, O'Shea, Scales & Manning.
yes he should. Not allowing for mistakes he makes, I'm not as set on Jake O'Brien as everyone else is to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
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Originally Posted by backstothewall
Its a great problem to have to be honest. I think BTW back five would do well too - Coleman the voice and O'Shea has enough in him to architect the back 3, he didnt stop communicating through both games. They all, including any version that has Collins, perform as expected for the most part. I just think that Collins has the potential to be the shining light and leader back there but he needs to... grow up? cop on? focus?... or something. His concentration has always been his achilles heel going back to the Kenny days. It is not in the "drop him" territory for me but he needs to level up because I think he can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Hey Kingers, since you dont seem to look at your phone these days I'll ask you on here the same as I asked on Whats App..... will you now agree that Parrott is a number 9???? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
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Originally Posted by SkStu
Looking at the replay I think he though Molumby was coming back quick enough to get to Varga. It was awful decision making but I can kinda see why he thought Molumby might have it covered
:D :D he forgot that part when he was crediting himself for Troy's career over on his threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I don't think he's an out and out number 9, no, even allowing for this week - I think he's so much more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
He contributes across the front line and from deep as we saw across these match days and as we've seen for Alkmaar. And as you know, I'm basing this on what I've seen of him since he's 14, playing up a year - not just what a lot of people are claiming to see him do for Ireland at senior level.
I know this is going to sound ridiculous (even typing it in my head I know it's ridiculous) but I don't think we've any comparison for him - genuinely. Of our previous front line players he's probably most like Robbie Keane, but in a lot of aspects I think he's better than Robbie. I think the fact that he was sort of forced to be the totem (for the want of a better word) in a system in England stymied him in his pathway. He's never been, nor should he have expected to be, that.
I know, I know, I know.
I was trying to see how one can painlessly remove those bottom two ribs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I was thinking the exact same. I think he has more to his game than Robbie did and look, time well tell on the goal count
David Connolly wrote this on Twitter, obviously in real time, and it’s bang on. A small tweak can make a big difference
‘Putting a left footer, in Scales, at near post space with corners from the Hungary left means any clearance is unnatural. A right footer clears the danger down field with their leading leg. Unfortunate miscue for the first goal.’
We had a rule defending corners:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
- Front Post defending the corner from the right-back's side of the pitch has to be defended by the left-full/left-footer, because the right-footer covering the front post correctly will not be able to clear the perfect corner properly;
- Front Post defending the corner from the left-back's side of the pitch has to be defended by the right-full/right-footer, because the left-footer covering the front post correctly will not be able to clear the perfect corner properly;
That's what players need, Kingdom.... simple instructions! :D
I was gonna type it in Binary, but thought simple English is best TexidubQuote:
Originally Posted by texidub
Just reading through this thread. The number of people who wanted both Azaz and Scales off. Sometimes the manager does know best.
Haven't had such a buzz since O'Shea equalised in Germany. The German fans were doing waves at the time. Similarly the Hungarian supporters were celebrating when they were 2-1 up. It's never over until the fat lady does her party piece. I thought those days were over but isn't it great for the younger generation who haven't had anything close to this before.
A day never to be forgotten.
Thanks for the reminder of that O'Shea goal. I was living in China at the time and woke up the whole building screaming and roaring at 4am 😂
I don't like getting into the whole "this wouldn't happen in GAA/rugby/whatever" argument, but I will say this - there's very few sporting moments that have stayed in the public discourse as long as the result in Hungary
The Rugby team enjoying a record breaking win against Australia has practically been ignored. Mack Hansen got a hat trick but he's less likely to be on the Late Late tomorrow than Troy Parrot's mother.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
As for Troy himself. The Toy Show is on a Friday 5th December, and AZ don't play until Sunday 7th.
I’m a GAA man, grew up hurling and playing football. Only played soccer in school.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Nothing gets the Irish public going like the soccer team doing well.
The rugby is grand but there’s about 10 decent rugby nations. Also, Mack Hansen scored a hat-trick in what is essentially a friendly.
Even when Ireland have done well in the rugby World Cup, we’re kind of expected to do well.
It’s far harder for a small country like us to do well in soccer.
The achievement of the last week is phenomenal considering we were down and out. We are the Mighty Ducks of international football
As somebody who lives there, the Scots stole our international thunder though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I mean, give us a few more days before you conduct your own great escape.
The national soccer team has a nationwide appeal that isn't there for the other sports - GAA is grand but lacks the international element so has a ceiling as a result. Rugby is popular in some areas, but there are others where it has no traction at all.
Having said that, one of my absolute least favourite things in Irish sport is the sniping that goes on between sports, unfortunately a section of the football fan base is very bad for it. Personally I like both codes of football, as well as rugby and golf. Hurling and horse racing wouldn't be for me, but at the same time I don't feel the need to tell hurling and horse racing people how **** I think their sports are either. Live and let live and all that.
Totally agree. I love our 4 big sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I remember a DJ who was a big soccer head in a bar I used to frequent. He knew I was a GAA man and used to make a point of coming up to me, giving me two middle fingers into my face and saying ‘F**k the GAA!!!’
It was vitriolic to say the least. Every single week he did it to me.
I used to ask him ‘why do you only like one sport?’
But he had a chip on his shoulder about it and I’ve only ever seen it from soccer people. Mostly towards the GAA. Weird!
Sean Moncrieff with a different take on the result in Hungary
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-styl...the-tricolour/
I think the success of the rugby team at international level and Leinster in Europe changed how the general public view the rugby team somewhat. I remember when winning a triple crown was huge for the rugby now it's viewed as a poor tournament. Munster going toe to toe with the heavyweight powerhouses from England and France.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
But yeah at the end of the day nothing gets the public going like the soccer team doing well. There's just a different buzz about it and likely down to being underdogs. Even lads I knew who were massively into rugby their overall interest in it has lessoned over the years. Especially at international level as people are being priced out of it.
My interest in international rugby has waned because the rich rugby nations (like us, France, Scotland, Japan etc.) basically buy in players. Nothing against Bundee Aki, CJ Stander and others who’ve represented us with pride but if I was from a developing rugby nation with a lot less money to spend, I’d be fuming. It’s not what international sport is supposed to be about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~YTM~
These lads are playing for us in World Cups without even having citizenship. It just smacks of corruption. Any rugby person I’ve said this to only comes back with ‘sure half the soccer lads are English’. Which is a terrible comeback as those born in England that played for us all had a connection to Ireland.
International sport is supposed to be about picking the best you have that are connected to your land and, in our case in the soccer, sometimes adding up to more than the sum of our parts. That’s the beauty of it.
I think that and the fact that rugby is generally a middle to upper-class sport make it less appealing to the masses. Plus it’s a far more complicated game than soccer.
Bit like France and Senegalese, or even New Caledonians as I discovered watching the play-off draws?