Depends how much you bet on Harps to beat Galway i suppose.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
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Depends how much you bet on Harps to beat Galway i suppose.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
Hard to know. I thought the Galway figure was low, and I thought the Bray figure was low as well. Either way, two healthy attendances at Finn Park to kick off the season. Interesting to see if it drops off any further for Wexford, given we're promised bad weather for the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
New season, same craic. Here we go. Welcome Kerry FC to the best thread in the world.
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 4,443 (3,209 {2022};2,878{19}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Cork - 5,672 (3,517 FD; 2,505; 4,245; 4,559; 2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD)
Derry - 3,305 (3,184; 2,049; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Drogheda - 1,863 (1,941; 721 FD; ; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
Dundalk - 3,315 (2,689; 2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Pat's - 4,860 (3,489; 1,919; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 7,626 (5,379; 3,384; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Shels - 3,782 (2,913; 1,071 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
Sligo - 4,248 (2,166; 1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
UCD - 716 (953; 739; 365 FD; 236 FD; 297 FD; 216 FD; 397; 487; 506; 558; 610)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 592 (307; 382; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 1,300 (482; 773; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cobh - 1,350 (872; 268; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Galway - 2,304 (2,081; 780; 746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
Harps - 2,050 (1,293 PD; 1,154 PD; 708; 1,202 PD; 1,216 PD; 784; 449; 479; 429; 433; 644)
Kerry - 1,286 (No previous)
Longford - 1,179 (500; 610; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Treaty - 919 (695)
Waterford - 2,781 (1,705; 1,496 PD; 2,329 PD; 1,550; 314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466)
Wexford - 1,330 (445; 235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 3,955 (2,687; 2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 1,581 (1,193; 586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)
OVERALL AVERAGE:2,768 (2,051; 1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 59,320 (486,365; 393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 23,714 (178,000; 79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 83,034 (664,365; 472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
Shed was a lot less full and a lot fewer away fans. Behind the goal was much the same. I think there was definitely more than 2500 at the first game. I would say 1500 odd seemed rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
Obviously the unusual KO day would depress attendance somewhat, but surely 406 will be the lowest Premier benchmark for the season?
Shamrock Rovers v Cork - 4,028
Bohs v Drogheda - 4,114
Dundalk v Shels - 2,766
Sligo v Pats - 2,751
UCD v Derry - 406
It's already the lowest crowd between both divisions, so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
Bohs getting more then Shams is a surprise
Not really, that’s close to our max and the Jodi is sold out for the season, plus 1200 school end tickets, so that’ll be our crowd give or take 300 all season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
That rovers crowd is way up on their usual monday crowd, corks away would be small, and it was a ****ty weather day in Dublin.
No walk up would affect it, and they may even have just counted season tickets and had a lower crowd who knows.
Dalymount easier to estimate on telly cause under the camera there’s only the away stand of 450.
Rovers not counting season tickets unless scanned in. Attendance looked right enough on yhat basis.
I would imagine Bohs would do that as well? Can anyone confirm?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I was there with 405 others.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Really terrible crowd. I suppose with Bohs and Rovers both at home and it being a bad night weather-wise in the hours before the game most neutrals stayed away.
Completely devoid of atmosphere so Derry did well to stay concentrated and get the job done.
Has the Irish League experienced an upward increase in their attendance figures like we have in the 'Greatest Little League in the world' ???
Unfortunately, that's one of the main problems with the UCD club format. Very hard for them to generate a real local hard core support. But they are in the Premier on merit a lot of clubs can learn from their setup. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Yes. 15% up on last year according to this, with an average of 1,656Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
https://www.nifootballleague.com/new...he-rise-again/
I think Crusaders v Glentoran cup quarter-final was sold out at the weekend.
The official attendances are reported on the Official NIFL site each week. Because there are some pretty small clubs in the top flight some of the attendances are quite small. Carrick, Dungannon and Newry seem to average about 500. For whatever reason Glenavon are only slightly above that but they should really be getting bigger crowds, they've struggled the last few years but maybe something going on behind the scenes that crowds are staying away.
I think Glentoran have the highest average. Linfield obviously play in the biggest capacity stadium, but I think that sometimes hinders their crowd, apart from the big derbies the ground is devoid of atmosphere.
Presumably the start of a simmering boycott and the 'Dennehy out' campaign :DQuote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
They're fairly decent attendanes for a Monday night to be honest (with one glaring exception).Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Bonkers game at Tallaght. And the new stand there looks massive.
Football, and live sport in general, seems to be up pretty much everywhere. The Irish League is getting good crowds by its recent standards, but nothing like the opening crowds we've had so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Very big crowd for us compared to a normal Monday match but a massive drop off from 7600 on Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
There is always the issue of school night as we have a lot of young kids who come with their dads on Fridays but not on School nights and the weather didnt help. Still a massive drop off.
Bohs crowd is super for them as well Ditto Dundalks which was effectivly a Friday night crowd almost
Its just mad that it can be said that there was a drop of 3.5k and there is still a crowd over 4k considering that 3-4k at any ground, any game, on a Friday would have been nodded at approvingly. As a league, we need to make hay while the sun is shining! I know some clubs are, a new generation of lifelong fans are being made, even Kerry has a team now, but the old League of Ireland habit of fearing missed opportunities on and off the pitch simmers!
Im not sure that is the case. Provenical Rugby attendences are falling. I don't know the story with Gaa though (its also hard to strip fact from fiction with them).Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Lower league Football seems to be growing in Britain too, so for me, it represents a growing apathy with the Premier League (maybe not alack of interest, but a growing lack of passion for it)- hence people are still very interested in football, but get there passion kicks from somehwere else. The best thing that could happen to the LOI now is for Qatar to buy Liverpool and United.
With the GAA, not sure that the early Championship rounds are seeing great attendances, but the football League has certainly seen a significant upturn in interest, with games in Tralee, Castlebar and Derry recording gates of 13-15k, which would have been unthinkable a few short years ago.
2 of those 3 games had a significant curiosity value, seeing if Derry could beat Dublin showing the dominant side are declining, and a derby like rivalry where Roscommon were expected to put it up to their dominant neighbour and it was division semi-final like. It doesnt change the point that much but I think those games would have seen big gates by usual standards anyway. I always think club games especially at the latter end of county championships are a better gauge of things.
It's been noted in media on a number of occasions that live sport in various countries has seen a surgeb in numbers since Covid.
The National league used to be very much the poor relation in the GAA. i've been to games for large counties in the past where there were literally no more than hundreds at them. Crowds are definitely up overall at GAA league matches.
Which Irish provincial rugby sides have seen crowds dropping off, and by how many ?
In the last full season before Covid hit, 2018-19, the average home attendance for the four Irish provinces was 12,502, which last season was down to 10,242. Each of the quartet saw a reduction in their average URC attendance when comparing the two seasons, with Leinster’s average attendance dropping from 17,242 to 14,138, and likewise for Ulster (13,835 down to 11,469), Munster (12,918 down to 11,345) and Connacht (6,013 down to 5,081).Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
https://archive.ph/6F0mh#selection-1571.0-1571.441
Provincial rugby's attendance'shave been dropping for years now. The average over 15k back in 2015-16.
1501 in Finn Park tonight.
1870 in EDP for Galway v Kerry
762 at the Markets Field
Pats v Bohs - 5,002
Athlone v Waterford - 763
Bray v Longford - 733
That's am encouraging crowd for athlone.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Especially as the Waterford away support would have been quite small due to their supporters bus being cancelled.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Funny how similar the 3 smaller FD were last night. 700+ attendances means that there should at least be that baseline atmosphere which is almost impossible to create with <500.
Even if the home results weren't great last night hopefully the people enjoyed the night out.
Brays was impressive enough considering there wasnt much of an away support there at all!
3178 at Sligo/Cork.
I fear for Kerry's support moving forwards after that result on Friday. Watching a team that gets hammered is no fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by exiled_gufc_fan
Hopfully they're new fanbase understand that Galway are essentially a Premier Division club in waiting, and that all clubs have bad days at the office.
Assuming they follow the same schedule as the Treaty game, the Athlone tickets will be released on Thursday, so won't have to wait long to see.
It's a pity management didn't fully understand that Galway are essentially a Premier Division club. Kerry's previous match was an entertaining 1 all draw that could have been 3 all. Comments like yours are an overreaction to one match.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Those tickets should have been on sale last week. The next home game tickets should always be released a few days after the previous home game.Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
It is even possible to over-react to a 9-1 defeat? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
More that, as legendz says, it'll be mostly the home displays that will have an impact in that regard.