Think 1532 was the official attendance. Counted 40 or so away fans.
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Think 1532 was the official attendance. Counted 40 or so away fans.
Weekend figures:
Dundalk v Bray - 3,031
Shamrock Rovers v Sligo - 2,641
Bohs v Cork - 2,214
Waterford v Athlone - 1,932
Derry v Harps - 1,574
Limerick v Drogheda - 1,526
Galway v Pats - 1,119
Wexford v Cobh - 386
Longford v Shels - 330 Extratime estimate.
UCD v Cabinteely - 210
Week 8:
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,925 (1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 720 (957; 769; 718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 4,452 (2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,531 (1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 968 (583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 3,351 (2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,364 (1,169; 1,290; 975 FD)
Harps - 1,457 (1,216; 784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD; 480 FD)
Limerick - 1,963 (1,131 FD; 1,206; 757; 1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Pat's - 1,479 (1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 3,333 (2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 1,550 (1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 269 (156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 472 (352; 610)
Cobh - 351 (403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Longford - 343 (488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315; 230; 260)
Shels - 555 (554; 596; 713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 240 (297; 216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 1,643 (314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 291 (585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216; 343; 494)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,057 (1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 511 (476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,468 (1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 14,963
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 106,942 (292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 16,340 (52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 123,282 (345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
What would be a realistic potential support for Bray. They are going so well this season yet have an averge below 1k. Could a relatively consistant 1500-2000 gate be achievable or is there just a real lack of interest no matter how they are going. It is almost like the Bray public think its a flash in the pan. Is there any bad blood due to the ownership/sponsorship, turnover of managers around Bray. You'd have to wonder about any plans for building a new ground where a relatively small development at the Carlisle Ground could do.
Bray's crowds such as they are have always been fairly terrible with the average boosted by the visits of the dublin "big" 3.
Looks so miserable this year because they have had ourselves harps Galway and drogs for their home games.
Now I've no doubt that in fairness to them harps probably brought 7 or 8 thousand to their game. We brought 150 to 200 I doubt galway or drogs brought much more.
In the second series after their Dublin visits the average will look a bit healthier.
As to challenging for Europe, at the moment they are challenging for Europe in the same way that ourselves derry shamrock harps and bohs are challenging for Europe ie it's a terrible league with lots of bad teams beating and drawing with each other. If Bray are in the same position heading down the final stretch of the season I've no doubt their crowds will be up a bit.
Thought it was over the 10k Harps' fans took the trip!
Out of interest, at the exact same point for each club last season:
CLUB - 2017 - 2016 - (+/- DIFF)
Bohs - 1,925 - 2,087 - (-162)
Bray - 720 - 926 - (-206)
Cork - 4,452 - 2,882 - (+1,570)
Derry - 1,531 - 2,000 - (-469)
Drogheda - 968 - 589 - (+379)
Dundalk - 3,351 - 2,672 - (+679)
Galway - 1,364 - 1,465 - (-101)
Harps - 1,457 - 1,949 - (-492)
Limerick - 1,963 - 1,409 - (+554)
Pat's - 1,479 - 1,639 - (+160)
Rovers - 3,333 - 2,477 - (+856)
Sligo - 1,550 - 2,243 - (-693)
Athlone - 269 - 192 - (+77)
Cabinteely - 472 - 490 - (-18)
Cobh - 351 - 373 - (-22)
Longford - 343 - 602 - (-259)
Shels - 555 - 619 - (-64)
UCD - 240 - 306 - (-66)
Waterford - 1,643 - 461 - (+1,182)
Wexford - 291 - 672 - (-381)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,057 - 1,837 - (+220)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 511 - 571 - (-60)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,468 - 1,339 - (+129)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 106,942 - 93,680 - (+13,262)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 16,340 - 18,828 - (-2,488)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 123,282 - 112,508 - (+10,774)
There are a few reasons why the people of bray don't support the club, lack of promotion around the town and involvement in schools and underage clubs around the area is one and then doesn't help using St Josephs Boys as the feeder club who aren't from the county doesn't help. This is one of many reasons but some problems go back near 20 years.
Bray I would say are the biggest "away crowd dependent" club in the league now replacing UCD. It would be interesting to also look at the figures for Sporting Fingal and Dublin City and try and deduct the away fans portion of their gates.
Looking at Waterford's figures; it raises the question, are you better off being in the First division and doing well, rather than struggling in the Premier?
Next season first division may not be the disaster as most fans feel it will. Lets say Pats and Bohs are relegated(along with Drogheda or Galway), then combining with Shelbourne, UCD, Cabo and playing each other 4 times, it could well be a golden age for soccer in Dublin attendance wise. Having a manager like Liam Buckley operating in the first division would also be a boast to its image(like Pat Fenlon and the foreign coaches at Athlone is doing now) Did UCD have an Eastern European managing/coaching them years back? Players also may also benefit from operating in a less stressful/pressurised environment a la Garry McCabe this season.
So that is the optimistic case for clubs struggling in the Premier Div, and therefore not to be in a rush in sacking their manager. Big downside I see to relegation of course is that unless you win the cup(or the route UCD got in) you can't qualify for Euro competitions and the money involved therein.
No?Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Had a couple of Hungarians playing for us in the late 80s/early 90s, and the U19s manager at the moment is Polish, but that's it.
EA Sports Cup - Waterford 2-0 Cobh Ramblers - Attendance 720
League cup limerick v cork 845
Maybe 400-500 in Finn Park tonight.
1680 in tallaght for ea cup with Bohs. Decent enough
386 at Wexford v Cobh.
Dlk v UCD, EA Sports cup 'around 1,000'
Was closer to 100 than 1,000 in fairness. Was 100 tops Shed side plus 2 or 300 stand sideQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Extratime put it at around 750 which still seems generous given the photos I've seenQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Limerick v Galway 1,714
2250 or so called out over the tannoy at the carisle easily over 1000 unhappy hoops, we are shocking and could well go down
Harps v Drogheda - 904
Dundalk v Bohs official attendance 2,848
and.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
ET estimate 350 at Cobh tonight, id have said more like 150, basically nobody in the main stand only the few in the singing section
Singing section :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Everyone slags them for been kids or whatever but they made good noise at times and fair play to them for creating the only atmosphere in the ground. Come to CCS and it's a total morgueQuote:
Originally Posted by thomas72
1,827 in The Showgrounds
Decent crowd that for the new managers first game, thought the match had a draw written all over it. Saved some of my weekend losses !Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Another 1,574 at Maginn, officially.
Around 750 realistically??
Looked closer to 500 than 1500 anyway
Not sure really, hard to judge Maginn Park. There's definitely been more in there this season, but maybe that was because attendance was under-reported before. Going by a very unscientific method, traffic seemed only slightly lighter than usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Do they have to count all the tickets that were bought for the original game?
if they counted all the people who saw the game then it should be 2500 : )
1,386 - Waterford FC 1-1 UCD
5,361 in Cork for Cork City vs Bray Wanderers. No offence but we were playing Bray and over 5000 at it. Madness. This season is a dream.
5,359 home fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Well it was a top of the table clash and Cork are flying but yeah over 5k is a good crowd - keeping them coming through the gate when the 5 losses in a row collapse happens in the run in we be the true marker of support :pQuote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Another frustrating night for our lot, there is a very good article on the Rovers website, a Shane Robinson interview where he compares the training set to when he was a player. A lot of what he is saying is absolutely right with regards to the direction of the club and its Vision to be a football club embedded in the community from under 8's all the way up to a semi professional team competing in the our National League. We are not the only club doing this but i think that we are the only club that has come out and said look this is the way we are going and here are the reasons why. This is the only way forward in terms of long term sustainability my only fear is we become a "suoer UCD" great underage structures but perennial mid tablers in the league. On the pitch we more often than not start well but as mentioned on various forums and media when we score we stop playing. the change in mindset and our "stop playing" when we take the lead has led to us then losing or drawing the game in most cases. Now its the fear of conceding that is stopping us playing in the same manner after we score, self-fulfilling prophecy stuff now at this stage. one thing i simply do not understand is Bradly's persistence with our Keeper who is worse than Crusty the clown at the moment. his nerves are shot and playing him week in week out is doing him or the team no favors. Rest him and then if he is training well bring him back. Hyland last season, he did alright at the start and then had a few iffy games but the coach persisted in playing him and which destroyed his confidence. Where is Hyland this season AFAIK not even playing the game, very sad. One could argue that this persistence we have in playing players that are obviously struggling is doing more harm than good both in terms of the group and the individual themselves. On changing the manager thats a hard one to call and given our by now almost annual knee jerk reaction to poor starts i would say No. Keep Bradser but the club do need and i am sure they do, talk to him on how they can best support him. I will say it again he needs an experienced No 2 and then only the 2 of them on the bench. Some day we will compete again but its 3 years away at least.
Thats great and all kingswood Rover but could you please post in a Shams thread. This thread is for attendances and linked discussion only.
Think I saw 1,486 for Bohs v Harps.