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Delaney calling the SFA statement a "joke" is rich; the SFA provided the FAI with the mandatory allocation.
UEFA have allegedly expressed "slight concerns" over the prospect of so many Irish fans in the home section: http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...lic-of-ireland
surely the FAI should be making representations that larger % away allocations should be made available to the bigger supported nations. the recent reduction to 5% has resulted in a large number of away fans appearing in the home end at many a match. surely with all the TV money UEFA have landed a better TV product would be provided by having a better atmosphere at matches with larger away supports?
the FAI has handled the whole thing badly but they had very little room to move within the tiny allocation received. the SFAs policy of keeping our allocation to the 5% yet at the same time willingly sell home end tickets to us is baffling
If they rang me offering those tickets I'd probably accept. I still need 3 and I'd happily take those corporate seats.
'Ticket row takes another turn as fans reject John Delaney's claims': http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30706329.html
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Originally Posted by Ger Keville
This isn't quite damning evidence yet though. Delaney is right to say that while the SFA allocation was one problem, another very clear problem was the FAI's way of dealing with the shortfall. That is not the same as deflecting blame to the SFA. He did deflect the blame to ANOther in the FAI, rather than assume responsibility as CEO though. That's the big tick against Delaney in my view.
And I think Delaney is right to say the Scots have shown "bad manners" by refusing to increase the FAI allocation when the Scots hadn't sold theirs out - even if it's a technicality. "Bad manners" may not be the term I'd use myself but I see his point. The SFA can't be heralded as a model of a sound distribution policy when they are drip drip dripping tickets into the public for "web traffic" reasons - meaning Irish fans benefit at the expense of Scots who would supposedly have bought them if the SFA wasn't vanely hung up on web visit numbers (allegedly, BBC source). Has nobody questioned the SFA methodology? They fcuking should.
Anyway, rumblings of an Arab Spring here? And nearly 25 years since Ceaucescu was "removed" from his post.
Just out of interest, who is more deserving of a ticket? A Block Booker of 25 years (so probably aged nearly 50 with a family) and semi-regular away tripper, or a season ticket holder of 6 years (so probably in his 20s with no kids etc) and regular away tripper. As a person in the first category I'd admit to thinking the second category is more deserving but it's not absolutely clear cut.
People bang on about today's recession but those conditions were the norm back in my day, when even going to Wembley was a boat and train and a 12 hour journey. You can fly to Georgia via BA today in half that time.
Delaney does acknowledge mistakes were made and claims someone within the FAI admitted he took his eye off the ball. Of course, it must be stressed that Delaney wasn't personally responsible!
Why would the SFA be so concerned with generating web traffic? It's seems a pretty trivial concern, although I guess it would draw an extra few thousand hits at the very least. Is it that it helps promote or expose to a wider audience other aspects of Scottish football? Probably, but still unusual that they would hold tickets back solely to serve this purpose, surely?
Are restrictions on the sale of alcohol by shops and offies in Glasgow city centre envisaged on match-day? The police here often enforce a policy prohibiting city centre shops from selling alcohol on big match-days involving City or United. Do the Glasgow polis ever impose similar bans?
Usually there's a blanket ban rigorously enforced on street drinking. There's enough problems with locals, without adding 10k Irish who are never going to be universally welcomed in that city.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
That said, clandestine purchases of some wee bottles of voddy and minerals, disguised as the latter or fruit juice, should do the trick.
Suspect the polis may be more lax up the Gallowgate, as they will undoubtedly push up all the Irish up there, but in the centre of town, no way.
They may even shut all the offies, will have to ask my local contacts.
And if you want a drink after in town, strictly no colours AFAIK.
Will check that detail also.
With respect, why don't/didn't people buy them from the SFA website?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
They will sell these tickets in a heartbeat. They release them later on through their website to generate more traffic.
this statement is nonsense. as tickets were released on the SFA website this week they were not snapped up and many of the same tickets remained available for hours or days. its only this morning that there appears to be none on sale although this could well change again during the day
My mates didn't want to risk sitting with locals basically, and were hanging on for an official away ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
the more i think of it id say there will be 10,000 Irish / scots irish in the home end. no risk of hassle and a great atmosphere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
cant go myself but have spent the week teasing myself looking at SFA tickets and high flight costs just in case circumstances change!
Yeah, but as the following post and various others mention, plus the JD fiasco, shows there's no chance of 'official tickets', just take whatever's going from the SFA. The chances are they'll be next to Irish people anyway, if that's such a massive factor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
What about trying a bus/boat combo?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
thanks. cant go till the Friday and getting up to Larne, across and then up to Glasgow is too much on the day of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
This article (dated today) is saying there are still 20,000 tickets available: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30706990.html
Surely that can't be right?!
If you wear colors around this town after this game, you are running the risk of getting your head kicked in.
When I was in Edinburgh during the time of Celtic's European Qualifiers at Murrayfield I was warned about going out in town during the day wearing blue runners, blue shorts and blue shirt (coincidence) and sure enough I did get a few hostile glances.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...2016-qualifier
Will put that there.
Not a factor for me personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
colour blocking is all the rage in Edinburgh. They frown on the less fashion conscious, especially foreigners.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Colors Yes, colours No.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
5-6 hrs total timewise, quicker (unless flying) than from London and anywhere in S.Eng.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Four tickets purchased from those accommodating SFA folk. Lisbon Lions Upper, Section 418 - Restricted View so let's hope for the best :eek:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...0/DSCF8833.jpg
As of now, only one ticket on sale, for £32 in Block 418, allegedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Yeah there was none at all at one point today. Obviously trying to get rid of certain tickets and others will come available again. I said I'd done enough lurking though so just pounced when I could get four together.
Good on ya for getting some and would say you're right, but the vast bulk are surely sold now?
Jesus, TOWK; no wonder! Double (triple!?) denim is a real no-no, especially in fashion-conscious Edinburgh.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
In seriousness, are you sure you weren't just being a bit over-sensitive to ordinary glances?
Good article and congrats to the author on getting published on the Guardian. He knows who he is. ;)Quote:
Except that article's p*ssing in the wind. No account obviously taken of the 'Gombeen' factor...
Everything is futile.
Huh? :confused:
Last week you were saying the results of some key matches were ultimately futile (whatever that means) and now that Guardian article is futile. That's all.
I mean nearly every article ever written in a paper has been futile but it doesn't mean an article that doesn't bring down the Berlin Wall (itself ultimately futile I'm sure :) ) is not interesting, well informed or well presented.
Whoever has the most points Stuttgart88Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
1. Block booker for 25 years (assume 4 games in the last 10 ways - 4 for ST 4 for games 8 points
2 ST holder for 6 years - (assume 6 games in the last 10 aways - 4 for ST 6 for games 10 points
No 2 'wins' (nothwithstanding the fact that both records would/should likely get a ticket even on a tight allocation if an anyway fair and transparent scheme is brought in)
Is that a similar points system to that used by other FAs?
Not doubting, just asking.
Hmm, interesting interpretation... but most of Humanity/Life is futile in that same context!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
A poster on YBIG is claiming he was in touch with the SFA and they reckon there have been about 7,000 tickets purchased by Ireland-based supporters in the home section on top of the 3,200 in the away section. That figure of 7,000 doesn't even include Irish supporters based in the UK or elsewhere in the world either, so I think it's fair to say we'll have a very significant presence in the ground. :D
it was based heavily on the scots system - they do a straight last 10 awaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Does anybody on this list want any tickets still...please indicate here and will resolve via PM if necessary as currently have 2 available(a pair!) in Block 115 @£36 each inc.the SFA booking fee, which is next to the away section and seems to be largely Irish fans, including some from here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Though not available to be collected until c.3pm+ on the day, sorry...
Please indicate ASAP if interested!
As won't keep on offer beyond say the weekend?
Thanks ArdeeBhoy but looking like i wont get to glasgow until about 6 o clock on the Friday. Was hoping (like loads of others!) to have tickets in my hand before I went over so will pass on your offer as I dont want to mess you about on match day. Cheers.
Anybody else staying in Edinburgh? How hard will it be to get a taxi back after the match?
It will be pretty dear unless you pre-book, best part of €100?
Get the train?
Yeah there'll be at least three of us so I wouldn't mind the cost too much. We'll get the train over alright but just want to get out of there after the match. Is there a stop closer to the stadium than Glasgow Central? If not, how far a walk is that station?... says an hour on Google maps I think.